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Busy weekend for Ushuaia: 8.000 cruise visitors
Over 8.000 cruise visitors arrived in Ushuaia over the weekend when the Star Princess (2.600 pax), Norwegian Sun (2.400 pax), Infinity (2.400 pax) and the Seabourn Quest coincided in the extreme south port of Argentina in the peak of the Southern hemisphere season. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAnd they said that ships calling into the Falklands would be banned from calling into Argentina! Seems that money talks.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better get some tyres together eh?
Dec 30th, 2015 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have been reliably informed that the passengers were requested to have a “ dump ” before going ashore.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2: Tyres?
Dec 30th, 2015 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Burning tires = customary rottingroadkillian welcome
Dec 30th, 2015 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah!
Dec 30th, 2015 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ship stopped at Port Stanley can not dock at any port of America. The ships will not leave the northern hemisphere only to see the Malvinas.
Dec 30th, 2015 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no tourism in the Falklands without Argentina, without America.
Oh Brasileiro, do you deliberately try to look like an idiot? Or do you just hate Brazil that much you wants us to think all Brazilians are as dumb as you
Dec 30th, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Norwegian Sun
14 Night South America from Santiago (Valparaiso) (Eastbound)
Santiago (Valparaiso), Chile to Buenos Aires, Argentina
Ports: Buenos Aires, Coastal Navigation, Cruising Beagle Channel, Cruising Cape Horn, Cruising the Straits of Magellan, Montevideo, Port Stanley, Puerto Chacabuco, Puerto Madryn, Puerto Montt, Punta Arenas, Santiago (Valparaiso), Ushuaia
Star Princess
14 Night Cape Horn Route to Rio
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to Santiago (Valparaiso), Chile
Ports: Buenos Aires, Cruising Cape Horn, Port Stanley, Punta Arenas, Rio de Janeiro, Santiago (Valparaiso), Ushuaia
Celebrity Infinity
14 Night Antarctica
Buenos Aires, Argentina to Buenos Aires, Argentina
Ports: Buenos Aires, Cruising Cape Horn, Cruising Schollart Channel, Cuverville / Gerlache Strait, Elephant Island, Montevideo, Paradise Bay, Port Stanley, Puerto Madryn, Ushuaia
Hey, Bras, they've all ready been to Stanley, on Monday! Get with the programme sonny boy. ;-)
Dec 31st, 2015 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brasiliero- Yes- Our little city of 2500 played host to over 6000 tourists on Monday - so 8000 should be a walkover for Ushuaia with its population - what is the fuss about?
Dec 31st, 2015 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now what did those 6000 do ashore in the Falklands that day? - Cross camp tours in 4WD vehicles to see King Penguins and much other marine wildlife from Elephant seals downwards.
Coach tours and regular bus services to closer wildlife detinations- coachtours of the 1982 Battlefields where they learned about Falklands history- the truth- and how Argentina got its arse well smacked - often 25% of a 50 seater coach on those tours are Argentine tourists- wanting to find out the truth!
Shorter bus and also walking guided tours around Stanley, also tourists can collect a multilanguage walking “stick” and do their own guided tour around, visit the National Museum and Maritime Heritage Centre, souvenir shops, etc etc.
Plenty for all to do, and reports indicate that all enjoyed their day ashore.
Where did Bras go? :-)
Jan 02nd, 2016 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina, Bolívia, Chile, Peru, Equador, Colômbia, Venezuela, Guiana Francesa, Suriname, Guiana, Galápagos (Equador).
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Portugal, Espanha, Germany, Itália, Angola, Mozambique, Macau, Goa, Lorosae, Tailândia, Damão, Diu, Saint Petersburg, Moscow, Beijing, Shangai, Hong Kong.
Most of the time I travel to these places.
1 - that policy can always be changed/reintroduced, at the right time of course.
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everything has its right time.
@13: Dear Vestige! It never worked in the first place. The cruise ships either just ignored it or carried on regardless of Argentina's futile posturing. By your reckoning, that was probably not the right time either.
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 vestige
Jan 03rd, 2016 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Particularly feeble attempt by you to sound relevant.
The time was obviously right for a non-K government and a review of their policies.
It's likely that the businesses and souvenir hawkers of Ushaia are quite pleased.
Haven't heard a word from the Governor of TDF and Malvinas about this.
What else do you have to criticise about the new government? :-D
Thanks Troy.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dont get me wrong Im all for the tourism in Ushuaia, even if its beneficial to the planters in the meantime. And Macri's fine by me too. Both those things will probably be financially beneficial for Argentina.
A bigger stronger richer Argentina is the first step.
Vestige- about the only thing that could be changed to make that idea work would be for Argentina to drop the Sov claim and hoist the Union Flag and become very British! And I somehow cannot see either of those happening!
Jan 04th, 2016 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The idea failed regardless of the type of Govt or economic strength on Argetnina, It failed simply because tourists regard the Falklands very highly as a destination on a South America cruise.
So, rather than loose their clients - the large travel company cruise lines simply decided to miss out various Argentine ports - chiefly Ushuaia, or sail to another country,s water albeit very briefly- enroute to the Falklands and clear customs for their next port there instead.
One line had that very simple solution- leave Ushuaia for Chile- cross the median line in the Beagle Channel- stop engines-drop rope ladder-pick up Chilean authorities from waiting boat- get them to sign ship IN- and then straight away-OUT- of Chilean waters - drop people back down ladder into boat- restart engines - sail to Stanley. They did it several times - probably still do!
Another just bypassed Ushuaia- and went to Chilean Punta Arenas instead.
It FAILED- and if Macri is daft enough to try it again one day - it will Fail Again!
Trouble with that Islander is that rgs can simply tell who went where and when, after the magic act.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Consider the same scenario off the GB coast and what future costs the liners would face.
GB govt would simply say ok no more Portsmouth for you.
Same can be enacted at the right time in arg, and at that time maybe Chile can see the right option too.
You people dont think beyond a happy past or the immediate future.
Any pointing to the results of a future stronger Arg is met with emotion and/or treated as a threat.
@18: What has Gt Britain got to do with it? The point you make about a “stronger Arg” is irrelevant. And it is not really seem as a threat either.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well GB was just used for context. You can use US or China or any powerful and or rich govt.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The point is relevant if you have any grasp on how politics/power works, if you can objectively foresee.
Inflation/bank crises dont last forever, resources are abundant, pop has steady growth.
If you have factual counterpoints id be happy to hear them. But please speak from your more objective side if you can.
@20: Please don't resort to condescension. The point is irrelevant; the UK doesn't stop tourist ships from docking purely because it doesn't agree with where the ship has called in. Neither does the US.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0We do not see a stronger Argentina as a threat. Macri's latest petition to the UK government has stressed that S. America does not agree with “militarisation of the S. Atlantic”. The military presence on the Islands is to deter any further invasion, but it also offers protection to the FICZ (including the safeguarding of tourist ships and fishing boats), training that cannot be had elsewhere and support to the local community.
I think most people here would like to have stronger ties with a more stable and reliable Argentina, but until it is accepted that Argentina has no claim to the Islands, this is unlikely to happen.
No condescension intended. One of the hallmarks of this site is that opinions based on analysis are taken too often to be direct threats.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now I could be wrong on this but didnt the US have a policy of turning away vessels that docked in Cuba at one point. Im on my phone so cant take time to check.
In any case the future political relations between the colonists and Argentina will be with an ever (exponentially) growing Argentina. Thats not a boast of some kind just a fact. (in size and industry)
And its not unreasonable to foresee a stronger Argentina at a point in the future leaning on the cruise industry.
Re last paragraph: I cant see that ever happening/being accepted.
@22: Colonists? You're falling into a trap of your own making there, aren't you. No one in the Falklands is a colonist. The Falklands aren't a colony. You people are don't think beyond the rhetoric spouted by a posturing government. There are currently no ”political relations between the Falkland Islands government and Argentina, because Argentina refuse to talk.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm just being objective, though, but from your postings I can surmise that you are merely being subjective.
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Jan 04th, 2016 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bobo!
@23 Fitzroy
Jan 04th, 2016 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot see what “vestige's” point is.
The fact is, the cruise vessels have been visiting Ushaia and BA, are visiting Ushaia and BA, and will be visiting Ushaia and BA.
They did it under the last AR government, despite small and isolated but vocal mob scenes by the unemployed Malvinistas.
That was a couple of seasons ago, however.
Cruise ships are continuing unhindered, with no protest from local or federal officials.
vestige is only here to sow doubt, as usual.
He has no special conduit to the inner-machinations of the AR government now, nor during the K time.
At some time in the future, the AR government of Macri or a successor, could do anything.
I expect you would have a hard time getting vestige to make any definitive statement of his preferences, political ideology, national identity or affiliations, or definite opinions on subjects.
In fact, he refuses to make a stand on anything.
He is indirectly critical of the British. In place of definitive opinions, he tries to ask 'awkward' questions or imply hypocrisy of the Brits, without including historical context, or by using flawed incomplete analogies.
He would like us to infer that he is an Argentine 'patriot', yet when we don't object to the actions of Macri, as here he tries to drum up some reasons for us to be doubtful or dissatisfied, and goads us to criticise him and his policies.
At the same time, we never hear or heard any criticism of CFK, Dilma, or Maduro, from vestige.
As I pointed out in an earlier thread, he does his best to discourage any reflection on the previous administration and CFK's misdeeds, corruption, or flawed social and economic policies that led to economic decline.
The majority of Argentines voted for a change of government, anticipating a change of policies, economic reforms, and an end of government corruption and rule by decree.
Vestige does not support that.
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@25: Yes Troy, that's what he's here for - sophistry. I've been enjoying his “banter”. I think, mainly, because I miss the ravings of Pablo Cedron so much! Living where we do I am very aware of the tourist situation, even this morning we hosted a few. To be honest, I rarely take anything said on here too seriously when it comes from malvinistas and those who try to create something out of nothing.
Jan 04th, 2016 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of them this morning said that they hoped that the minority who see the Falklands as theirs would just go away under the new regime, going so far as to thank me (?) for helping get rid of the junta in 1982!
@26 FitzRoy,
Jan 04th, 2016 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Best Wishes to you and the Islanders.
I have enjoyed hearing some of the first hand tales of the Islanders on MP. I have a friend who visited within the past couple of years (shall remain nameless, but I am sure you will figure out who...) - he brought me several items - fridge magnet, “British to the core” picture, hat etc. and most recently, a Falklands Hockey Team jersey - well done, by the way!
You have lots of supporters who will repeat the true history.
May 2016 be a great year for you!
Cheers,
Troy
“There is no tourism in the Falklands without Argentina, without America.”
Jan 04th, 2016 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think to harmonise with Argentina, the Falkland Islanders should introduce tyre burning impress the tourists??
23 - very well.
Jan 06th, 2016 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 025 - im happy to answer (brief) specific questions.
@29
Jan 06th, 2016 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0sure... short evasive answers of your choosing.
useless Troll.
Calm down Troy, its only an online comments section.
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