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Head of Malvinas Museum, one of Argentina's foremost experts on the issue

Monday, January 4th 2016 - 06:56 UTC
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Federico Lorenz, considered one of Argentina's foremost experts on the Falklands/Malvinas Islands issue and author of multiple works on their history, will take the reins as the interim director of the Malvinas Islands Museum in the latest in a far-reaching shuffle of key cultural positions in President Mauricio Macri’s new administration. Read full article

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  • La Patria

    I wonder how much time this expert has actually spent on the islands or on reading historical British documents.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Argentina has no “foremost” experts - or at least the field is poor

    https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    ”multiple (successful) votes at the United Nations calling on London to enter into sovereignty talks with Argentina over the Falklands”

    .....anyone care to point out the inaccuracies in that?

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    No UN General Assembly Resolution since 1988. The C24 does not even recommend its own resolution to the GA for adoption.

    Argentines must have a different measure of success.

    :-)

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Oh dear, I think I have just found the New Gollum: it's the Precious, the Precious!

    He just needs to shave the beard, he almost has the eyes and he certainly is a pathetic creature.

    Let us hope this 'expert' can actually tell the truth about the Falklands for a change. Anybody want to tale a bet on that? No, I didn't think so.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    The new museum will be under the Instituto de Asuntos Quiméricos and will have a wing dedicated to Argentine oil exploration and discovery on the moon, curated by an enthusiastic 11-year-old.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    Same approach, different style and less aggressive and arrogant. No change in the RG positon. Same old...

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    “I’m going to put all my effort and commitment to the goal for the museum to be one in which we can all contribute to the construction of our relations with Malvinas, with the South Atlantic, and with our history,” he said on his appointment.

    Here's a tip, Lorenz. Start by calling them by their proper name. That's the FALKLAND ISLANDS.

    It's interesting that he apparently started seeing things differently after 2008. The question is whether he wants to revert to the “friendly” approach that Kirchner (deceased) tried or whether he's actually investigated and found that argieland has NO claim. We can wait to see whether Macri appointed him and demands that he take the government line, sacks him or, maybe, gets persuaded.

    In any event, let's start with a basic position. No negotiations. No Corbyn in a UK government. No argie land purchases. Visitors only. Displaying argie flags and banners to be an offence. No argie flights or vessels except in verifiable emergencies. Well, we all know the basics

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    There is no question of Argentina gaining any sovereignty over any of tbe British posessions, they have no valid claim and tbe Islanders wish the Falklands to remain a BOT at the moment. Argentina under Kirchner and Gollum had the wrong approach. Britain and tbe USA value the Mount Pleasant base, the intelligence it gathers and its strategic position. Argentina should tone down the aggressive rhetoric and try being friendly. There is a lot to be gained.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    More noquis. At least he'll be Macaroni's tater.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @9 “Argentina should tone down the aggressive rhetoric and try being friendly.”

    Nah. Nobody trusts the argentos whether they are trying to be friendly or not. Those acting friendly are just trying to pick your pocket.

    And anyway within 25 years Argentina will be returned to the Islanders.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vision

    “Our claim is as archaic as imperialism and we cannot hold that position,”

    Finally, an RG said it. It wasn't so hard now, was it? I genuinely believe he is being sincere in that statement but holding THAT position, in THAT career, in the manner of the reason the museum was opened, certainly isn't.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    @11 Well said Skip. :-))

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “Lorenz said his goal as interim manager of the Malvinas museum would be to help improve knowledge about the Islands and their history.”

    If that means he examines history without the lies spewed by successive Argentine governments that would be welcome as long as the museum is protected from baying 20 year old Malvinas veterans chucking rocks.

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Ho hum!

    Jan 04th, 2016 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    The UK will return the Malvinas within the next 25 years.

    Jan 05th, 2016 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Stevie, I bet you cannot recall the 1st time you posted that. I'm British too.......oh and the earth is still flat. Anyway, can you recall the first time?

    Jan 05th, 2016 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Argentina will be turned over to the Islanders within the next 25 years.

    After a thorough cleaning.

    Jan 05th, 2016 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    #16 Dream on. Didn't Menem say that the islands would be Argentine by ... 2000?

    You people live in a fantasy world.

    Jan 05th, 2016 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Argentina will return Sta Cruz within the next 25 years.

    Jan 05th, 2016 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    I've actually read some of Federico Lorenz' writing. Stylistically it is not bad. But as an historian in the contemporary and civilised sense he is an utter failure. In his material on visits to the Falkland Islands he dwells almost exclusively on the concealed misbehaviour of the argento troops and visitors, while never really expressing any sort of understanding of the islanders, as if they were invisible or at best thinly unidimensional. At one point he indicates surprise that the islanders could have even considered the 1982 events to be an “invasion.” Such a perspective reminds us of North Korea.

    Ironically there is an Argentine author who made a quite honest effort to put a human face on the Islanders, though of course the average argento would have none of it and even-handedness in writing makes one unemployable in argento public service. The book is unsurprisingly hard to find in Argentina except in electronic format but it is “Kelpers. Ni ingleses ni argentinos: Cómo es la nación que crece frente a nuestras costas ” by Natasha Niebieskikwiat.

    Jan 05th, 2016 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Natasha is a member of our Facebook page :-)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/326953933989277/

    Jan 05th, 2016 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Capt Rockhopper

    Correct me if I am wrong, the DC24 is a non executive sub committee of the Fourth Committee. It has no powers to make any decrees, it can only issue proposals for draft resolutions. Neither the UNGA nor the UNSC has adopted anything it has proposed for over 30 years. Argentines need to be re-educated that the DC24 is not the UN but that it is nothing more than a minor advisory group with no executive powers to do anything. But hey I could be wrong. Not.

    Jan 06th, 2016 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    The C24 is a sub-sub - Committee of the General Assembly. Despite its common name, it currently has 29 members. The GA has 193. The c24 makes what it calls 'resolutions' which are presented to the GA sub-Committee known as the 4th Committee as draft-Resolutions for adoption by the GA.

    It should be noted that the C24 recommends all its 'draft-resolutions' to the 4th Committee for adoption by the GA as UN Resolutions - except one.

    Guess which does not get recommended :-)

    Jan 06th, 2016 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @24 chuckle

    Jan 07th, 2016 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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