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One year on death of Argentine special prosecutor remains in controversy and unsolved

Monday, January 18th 2016 - 09:32 UTC
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The mother of Argentine special prosecutor Alberto Nisman broke her silence and made it clear she did not believe her son had committed suicide. “He was killed,” Sara Garfunkel said in an interview with the Jewish News Agency (AJN) published on Saturday. Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    Read the article in Clarin and was left with the clear impression that the new government seem determined to get to the facts of the case despite the blunders by the hag of an investigator.

    TMBOA's name also came up in very disparaging terms and is clearly in the sights.

    As they are fond of saying in Uruguay, “we shall see what we shall see” when talking about the government.

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    One year on and no nearer to determining whether Nisman was murdered or committed suicide, but the wheels of Argentinas judiciary grind on ever soooo slowly, why is that? Are they soooo incompetent that it takes soooo long? They couldn't make a pissup in a brewery.

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @2 I thought suicide was ruled out and the question is who murdered him.

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    I wonder? Was there just a spanish version of “Who will rid me of this inconvenient prosecutor?” Or did Kirchner just order a murder? Why did it happen just before Nisman was going to file an accusation against Kirchner? Let's start from “balance of probabilities”. The balance of probabilities is that Kirchner ordered a murder. Who would be able to access a largely unused corridor and open a locked door. A “security” service? Who decides to make it look like suicide? Why would Nisman consider suicide? He was just about to expose the Kirchners as treacherous murderers. Iran likes unattributed murder.

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Don't look for any US assistance.

    The Obamy/iranium lovefest continues unabated.

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @3
    No Elaine they have last December brought in a new prosecutor , another justice person, why do the police not investigate his death like in a normal country.Or are they that corrupt that no-one will believe them.
    Round and round the radical road the radical rascal ran.Try saying that when pissed. or with a cleft palate

    Jan 18th, 2016 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    The Macri government is trying to find ways to involve Cristina in an alleged “murder” of the former prosecutor.
    However, the case has already been investigated to death--pardon the pun--and left open so that ir could play a role during the presidential election.
    In any event, Nisman's death by suicide is clear for anybody who connects the dots.
    The bogus accusation against Cristina had already been on the works for about two years when Nisman's handlers told him to come back and file it.
    But after Nisman announced it, former Interpol director Robert Noble accused Nisman of lying about the alleged Argentine plot to remove the “red alerts” from the Iranian suspects in the AMIA bombing.
    The next blow came when a Congress inquiry to Nisman behind closed doors organized by then Macrist legislators Laura Alonso and Patricia Bullrich for Monday Jan. 19 became public thanks to Victory Front legislators who also claimed their right to participate on it.
    Nisman knew his accusation's weaknesses, his failures as prosecutor of the AMIA investigation after 10 years and his shady ways of dealing with public money--buying foreign property and taking of a portion of some of his employees' wages among other things--were going to be aired.
    Hence his frenetic calls to 'Jaime' Stiuso, Alonso and Bullrich during his last hours, demanding additional findings in support of his denunciation. Stiuso never answered his calls because he had nothing else for him. The pressure was on, and Nisman was left alone during those crucial hours.
    Nisman was a weak man with a big ego who did not deserved to die but was caught on too big a game.
    Those who used him to advance their political ambitions are still trying to make hay out of his death one year later--a dirty affair by the worst of Argentina indeed.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 04:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @5 chronic

    “The Obamy/iranium lovefest continues unabated.”

    Oh, look what the Windy City just blew in...

    What's up Chronic, lack of hostilities spoiling your fun?
    Would you prefer hostilities and hate, nuclear arms threats??

    What happened to you? One minute its the YB-Crony “lovefest”, and the next, you've run for cover because Derkeblake called you out as a pompous bullsh!tter...

    How 'bout them Hawks, huh?!

    Faker

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @7 Enrique, that is some fiction you are creating there. Are you really so slavishly devoted to CFK that you would weave such a fantasy?

    Nisman was murdered. Though unlike some here I don't believe CFK was directly responsible. Indirectly, most likely, given her behaviour after the murder. I have stated here a number of times where to look for those responsible.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Canucks:

    The uninvited would be guests.

    Lol.

    More, freebooters.

    Canadite beggars are always entertaining.

    Weak effort.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Either the Nisman murder or the ephedrine trafficking threat should be enough to keep the KThugs in line.
    I can't wait to see CFK perp walked without her wig and troweled on make-up.
    Maybe she can share a cell with Hillary.
    That would be perfect.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @10 “chronic”

    You are NOT a real American anymore than Hepatia is.

    You pompously overplayed your hand and got called out - then skulked away.

    You really gave yourself away, reacting with “piker”
    rolling out of your mouth so easily.

    No real American has heard of that, or knows what it means. But you wouldn't know that, having only seen them on television and never being there.

    Gosh, I think we had the same conversation with “voice” about Trout Run Pa.

    Faker, you blew it.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @12 Weird that yankeeboy never calls him out though, isn't it.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Spliced genes.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @13
    Funny that they seem to 'carpool' to threads together to comment, and “voice” is often there too.

    Odd that voice, YB and the fake American “chronic” all seem to operate within the same UK based time frame, even though, the “Americans” would normally be separated by 5 to 8 hrs from the UK.

    “chronic” is definitely as clueless as “voice” as to real American idioms. He uses British terms, slang, criticisms, and styles of speech that would never occur to real Americans.
    YB has used unusual phrasing also.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @15 Yankeeboy seems to be a caricature of a certain type of American; a Trump wannabe. You would think he was designed to incite hatred against Americans. He certainly does operate at peculiar times but maybe he has trouble sleeping.

    Chronic is not American. That he claims he is paid to write is at odds with his illiterate ramblings. He does follow YB around like a puppy.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #9 ElaineB
    I do appreciate you have a different opinion about the way former prosecutor Nisman's life ended.
    My own conclusion comes from analyzing the different players, interests and circumstances surrounding that tragedy--not from any allegiance to anybody.
    One of the main elements I based my conclusion on came from Nisman's own denunciation text, found online. For anybody who reads this badly written document, to suggest it was serious is an affront to human intelligence.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @17 Fair enough. I based mine on the information from people investigating the murder. You know, people actually there in Argentina.

    We shall find out the truth in due course but it is a situation complicated by politics at a higher level. Nisman did not commit suicide.

    Jan 19th, 2016 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    12.....d'oh!

    piker
    noun

    A mean and stingy person; miser; tightwad (1872+)
    A shirker; loafer (1889+)
    [originally a vagrant, esp a gambler, who wandered along the pike; hence a poor sport, a cheapskate]

    The Dictionary of American Slang, Fourth Edition by Barbara Ann Kipfer, PhD. and Robert L. Chapman, Ph.D.

    If it rolled off a UK tongue it would be...“you thieving Pikey bastard.....”

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Piker is am American slang? WTF uses it.....South Americans? How frigging old is it?

    Useless as tits on a bull

    Eat shit and bark at the moon

    Talks like a man with a paper asshole

    Pissing in the wind

    Up shits creek.......but piker?

    Tighter than a knats ass.....American. I guess one can't google everything and expect to be in the right time period.

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @19, 20

    “Chronic” is bs, no matter who is pulling the strings.

    Next he'll be using some other 'American slang' term.

    “23 Skiddoo”, perhaps??

    “Swell fella”, that chronic.

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I don't post on UK time unless I'm in Europe which would only be in the summer.

    You all hate Chronic because he's smarter than you and is a conservative.

    He winds you up like the fools you are

    and for the umpteenth time I am not chronic.

    Jan 20th, 2016 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    22 YB

    Indeed, “chronic” is no more than a wind-up artist - full marks!

    Is he Anerican? It appears not.

    You never question him, “voice” appears from nowhere as needed, to actively defend him.

    You all seem to keep the same hours.

    People can draw their own conclusions.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Are you saying chronic is voice?

    You spend too much time thinking about the personas on this board.

    I mostly keep east coast usa times.
    Late last year I spent some time on the west coast.

    Maybe that's what's confusing you.

    If one were as suspicious and obsessive as you, one could say the same between your posting times and relationship/support of Elaine.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    ...and my conclusion is...
    You know fcuk all about Yanks and you know fcuk all about Brits...
    I live in Britain and I live with a Yank...I know what makes Yanks tick...I know how to wind them up...
    I also know that in the UK...Gypsies are referred to as Pikeys not Pikers....
    ..He's a Pikey...
    ...They are a bunch of thieving Pikeys....
    ...or are you saying that ... you in Canada know more about the UK than me in the UK...?
    Interesting link....
    http://thereformedbroker.com/2009/01/24/what-is-a-piker/
    Also this guy from New York knows fcuk all about the UK too....
    No one wanders along a toll road...they are only on motorways and you can't walk along a motorway...
    and we don't use the term Turnpike....it's archaic....

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Who's we?
    Turnpike is still very much in use in PA.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    25 “voice”

    Your life is all about winding people up to get a reaction.
    How fulfilling for you.

    Do you practise on your Yank partner?

    Still living with you?

    After your nasty misogynistic comments to ilsen and ElaineB, it can't be very pleasant for her, if it's a she.

    Do you beat her up too, like the pensioners and people in traffic you spoke of ?

    You're a real charmer.

    Who cares

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    26
    We in the UK....
    ...the term Turnpike....is archaic....
    Originated in the UK...exported to the US and never came back....
    27
    I can see my comment hurt...
    What nasty misogynistic comments to ilsen and ElaineB...?
    Show me or admit you are lying....
    What pensioners...?...Show me or admit to lying...again...
    As for folk giving the finger in traffic whilst believing they can get away with it...beware, it's a pet hate and you will not get away with it....

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Well, I'm sure they use it in Trout Run
    alas...

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    28 voice

    You're an odious bully - you have shown it time and again. For those that have watched you over the past couple of years, ageism is a theme, you are no stranger to bigotry, and misogyny - the real standout that I can think of is, you trying to somehow denigrate and intimidate ilsen by referring to her private bits and their colour.

    You must be a real pleasure to live with. From your posts, no stranger to a bottle of whisky either, it seems.

    One has to wonder if that, your insulting, confrontational manner, and your bad temper haven't made life a hell for those around you.

    Are you on a no-fly list, yet?

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    30...puppet wannabe....

    WTF are you talking about...?
    Private bits...??
    I think you are confusing me with someone else...
    ...or did you dream it...?
    ...show me or STFU....
    ps....Whisky is for special occasions....first foot etc. and only a wee dram at that...
    BTW....I say it as it is...the direct approach suits...unlike you sycophant-ing your way around folk...whilst stabbing them in the back when you see the tide turn against them....
    WYSIWYG....is better than sly and creepy...
    I know you...you are the finger guy...thinking he's safe behind a bit of two sheet metal and safety glass....

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @31 BS - you're full of it.

    Jan 21st, 2016 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Troy sounds an awful lot like Elaine.

    Jan 22nd, 2016 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    33 YB

    I could do a lot worse.

    It's better than sounding like voice/chronic

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    34. You're wrong there.

    The only way that i sound like Chronic is that were both conservative.
    I love the way he is able to wind you all up with just a few biting words.

    I wish I could write like that.
    I always feel like I need to teach the restards.

    Jan 23rd, 2016 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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