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Argentina rejoins the real world

Tuesday, February 16th 2016 - 15:16 UTC
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UN John J. Metzler(*) Reversing the trend of economic mismanagement, ending a fifteen year debt impasse with foreign lenders, calming a percolating political crisis over the disputed Falkland/Malvinas islands in the South Atlantic, and overcoming the image of unpredictability, Argentina’s new conservative government faces serious obstacles in reintroducing Argentina to an often skeptical world. Read full article


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  • chronic

    Brilliant socialist.

    Has absolutely no comprehension of functional economics.

    Farm commodities are depressed.

    rg solution:

    Raise production levels 66%.


    Feb 16th, 2016 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Argentina... trustworthy? You're smoking something.

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    So easy to solve Argentinas claim to the Falkland Islands, quietly drop it and start acting like a grown up country. Otherwise remain a pariah.

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    I wonder who these skeptical countries are. And how they are in turn viewed by the world.

    Maybe it should read skeptical lobby sponsored industry owned medium term diplomats rather than countries.

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Maybe it should read “98.7 percent of those surveyed in the civilised nations and in neighbouring planets are of the considered opinion that being untrustworthy, unreliable, and a perpetually self-immolating economic pariah are the nicest things that can be said about Argentina.”

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Argentina re-joins the real world
    There may be proof that we haven’t behaved always the way we should

    Thank god, some very positive news abt Argentina,
    Argentinians can be most proud of their new leaders approach to its problems,
    Mauricio Macri’s government, will do the right thing at last, and right CFKs lunatic ideals,

    Argentina will then,
    Pay her debts, pay back all those loans,
    Drop her false claims to the British Falkland’s,
    Respect the people’s human rights,
    Recognise people’s right to exist,
    No more lies and deceiving people,
    No more bullying and abusing peaceful islands,
    Fully integrate with the world’s problems, and take in their fair share of refugees from the millions fleeing the Middle East,
    Fully engage with fighting ISIS,
    Being nice and polite to nations,
    Contributing to the world bank and the IMF ,

    Yes its great news to see the positive side of what Argentina can do if it really wants to,

    The down side is,
    Will she-or wont she.

    just a nice observance.

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Ooooh that usurpation and those UN resolutions. Wearing a bit thin on the imagination:

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    Rejoining the real world? Yeah... right... Here's another example of how they accept reality and decisions they don't like

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mick23

    My question is ....

    Why did it take so fooking long for the people to wake up and smell the coffee ... Or Mate if you prefer....

    TMBOA was in power way to long... Was it a case of the blind leading the blind? Perhaps!!!

    Get you shit together and straighten things out .. The sooner the better... Change the laws and put those crooks who deserve it into PRESO... Permanente!!

    Feb 16th, 2016 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    What is amazing is during TMBOA tenure as el presidente.
    She achieved precisely nothing positive in respect of the Falkland Islands.
    In fact if anything the Falkland Islanders have gained a voice worldwide and are being heard.

    Oh now maybe some of the contributors from Argentina can answer this.
    But since she left we in the UK have heard absolutely nothing from TMOBA. Is she active in Argentina or what?

    Oh and finally, we will really know if Argentina has rejoined the real world when the next C24 meeting happens in June. Will Argentina then apologize for the lies and half truths it has been spouting over the years and admit it is attempting to colonize the Falkland islands against the will of the good People of the Falkland Islands.

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Finally a positive story and all you fuckwits can do is piss and moan!
    We have a real president doing his utmost to right a messed up situation so at least show some support.
    Just goes to show the Falklands pessimistic mentality.

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @11. Nothing positive for us. Just the same old drivel.

    Learn to back off what you can't win and, if necessary, will really hurt you.

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captainsilver

    11 I disagree, I am sure that all fair minded people wish Macri well, but there remains this constant unfounded claim on our territory. If I came to BA and kept trying to turf you out of your home, steal your assetts, called you a squatter when 7 generations of your family lived there and threatened you what would you feel like?

    Drop the unfounded claim, its so simple. You Argies are mostly really dumb!

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    The midget needs to grow a bit and STFU about being cautiously optimistic regarding the Falklands.

    There is no optimism possible while their constitution is as it is.

    She can say what she likes in private, whatever that is, but unless the new government begins to tackle the brain-washed morons I cannot see how they are going to be accepted in the real world.

    And most certainly not by the Falklanders.

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Sunshine pumpers.

    It's still rgntiny with all its foibles and faults and insurmountable problems

    The only material change is that current leader hasn't yet debased the people or plundered the treasury

    This haggling for pittance by a nation - even if it is third world - is truly embarrassing

    That Singer could drag them down to the level where they would warmly receive overtures from a pool as small as $28m shows the depth of their humbling by a mere money changer.

    Sad days for the rg.

    Where did all the firey rhetoric from the pink house get you?

    Where is the famous rg machismo?

    Did it leave with Cretina?

    Has the rg been emasculated?

    Che and Maria need a proper education to build an honest, viable 21st century rgntiny.

    Borrowing at favorable market rates will help but the fundamental problem is that rgntiny needs to raise its productivity not via commodities production or the services sector but by adding value through manufacture as opposed to component assembly.

    Latam can find an infinite number of minor occurrences to celebrate so this display of jubilation at the change of linen at the pink house is fully anticipated but what is needed is an entrepreneurial revolution of innovators - but that would require something truly special - basically an invasion of body snatchers to replace risk taker and laborer en masse.

    Viva le revolutione! IiiiiiiiEeeeeeee!

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    I feel most here are disappointed Macri hasn't yet dropped Argentina 's claim on Malvinas.
    Keep dreaming people. No Argentina president, even the lamest one will ever do that as it would mean political suicide.
    And so your nights will still be populated by the nightmare of Britain one day doing the unthinkable and letting you go. Not a very enviable way of living, and probably not your fault.
    But life ain't fair, eh?

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @16 Enrique,
    Don't really care whether you drop your ridiculous “claim” or not.
    We know, & increasingly more people from many countries now know, that your ridiculous “claim” is just that, ridiculous.
    You have NEVER owned these lslands & you NEVER will own them.
    Keep dreaming about the UK “letting us go”.
    And if that did happen, then there are many other solutions that do not involve Argentina.

    Feb 17th, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    The islands have become too important to the UK, and the islanders too appreciative of the UK affiliation, to think of such a separation as likely. Ergo, Argentistan's probability of stealing the islands is now at its lowest point in history.

    But it's fun to watch the argentos work themselves into a self-destructive froth as they bloody their noggins bouncing off the brick wall. It's one of so many reasons they can't be taken seriously.

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Marti any given time theres maybe 10 (and thats a very liberal guesstimate) RG's even thinking about New-Stanley city.
    So roughly one 4 millionth, 0.00000025%...or something at that microscopic level.
    Of those 10, emotions will vary somewhere between m'eh and youtube comment 90% of the time, with the rare 14 year old/conqueror style outburst.

    You see RG's have actual lives to live ... in the fancy new 'real world' unlike unstable isolated survivalists awaiting the big event ... or certain other communities.

    If you want to watch some froth you're going to need to make lots of very quick journeys over a very large area.

    RGs await the Malvinas in a similar fashion to your own patient waiting for the results of the 2048 Olympics.

    Feel free to make that 10 into 1000 btw. 0.000025% of RGs care right now.
    Delusions of grandeur.

    ..................................A tumbleweed.

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @19 Vestige,
    Pleased to hear it old chap.
    However l'm not letting my guard down just yet!

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “RGs await the Malvinas in a similar fashion to your own patient waiting for the results of the 2048 Olympics. ”

    There is a possibility that you will indeed claim the Falklands.

    When the sun has become a red dwarf and the rest of the world (and hopefully the wildlife, plants etc ) have left for a more habitable place to live-the peronists will turn down their tickets and plant the flag with the 'smiley' icon on the Falklands and celebrate while the remaining peat and diddle dee catch fire.

    They will celebrate wildly while waving joyously to the spaceships departing the earth.

    The flag will gain stay for 3 months before the world finally burns..............

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    20 - thats a good idea. Advisable to never let your guard down. Keep an eye out constantly, monitor argie media and go through all required drills weekly with the other Stanley survivalists.
    Whos on patrol tonight.

    21 -as above, dig in and wait. Any minute now.

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @22 Fortunately, the concept of vigilance has a more sophisticated meaning to the islanders and others of the modern world, than it does to the antediluvian knuckle-draggers on the mainland, who at every turn remind us of where those Neanderthal genes came from.

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @23 Marti Llazo,
    Marti, please!
    Comparing Neanderthals to Argentines!
    The very idea!
    Neanderthals have got feelings too, you know!

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Indeed, my having compared Argentines to Neanderthals may prove vexatious to the latter.

    Feb 18th, 2016 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pontefractious

    @ Klingon
    Lone voice in a wilderness of naysayers. You are of course quite right. Politics is the art of the possible. Macri walks a tightrope here and so far has done a good job of keeping his balance. I know nothing of Malcorra, but perhaps that's a good thing. No political baggage. No personality cult. Just getting on with the job. Everything she says is on message, including kicking the can down the road on the Falkland Islands. Continues to sound like adults are in charge instead of a bunch of spoilt kids. Time for the critics to stop obsessing over the sovereignty issue and spend more time measuring how the Macri government is doing and what they should do next.

    Feb 19th, 2016 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog


    “ Any minute now”

    I've waited a minute, contacted a friend in the Falkland Islands, and there is still no sign of an Argentine administration in Stanley.

    Feb 19th, 2016 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Did he keep you on the line long ?
    Last guy wouldnt let me hang up.
    No please stay, pleease, Im cold and lonely.

    Feb 20th, 2016 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog


    I can affirm that the social life on the Falklands is fantastic-no lonely people there because people (mostly) get on-my mate didn't keep me on the line long because he had a party to go to (like most weekends in Stanley).

    Feb 21st, 2016 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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