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Falklands: Malcorra confident 'there's a horizon of possibility for dialogue'
Foreign minister Susana Malcorra said that analyzing the different scenarios in the UK regarding the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty dispute, “there is a horizon of possibility for Argentina to have a dialogue” on the issue. Read full article
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Feb 20th, 2016 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Corbyn backs all kind of idiotic terrorist organizations. He also doesn't have a hope in hells chance of affecting anything
But the usurpation!?*** And the 40 UN resolutions!!???****
Feb 20th, 2016 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear
https://www.academia.edu/21721198/Falklands_1833_Usurpation_and_UN_Resolutions
Sra. Malcorra, do you always consult psychotic lunatics when making your foreign policy? Oh, that's right, you do. The Kirchners and kirchenerists are cases in point.
Feb 20th, 2016 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here is the future. At some, as yet undetermined, point in time, the Falkland Islands will change its status. They may decide on a Compact of Association with the United Kingdom or they may decide on independence. In either case, Britain will remain committed to the defence of the Islands with our full force. At no point will argieland have any role to play in the change of status.
You can have a “dialogue” any time. But not about sovereignty. Get that completely out of your head. It's not going to happen.
“But it is showing us there are different opinions, different positions and that gives us a horizon of possibility to have a dialogue”, on ”
Feb 20th, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that horizon of possibility involves Corbyn getting elected, don't hold your breath Susanna.
Try accepting that Islanders will be present in any talks (as pre-1982 talks re: Frank's Report), and you could be talking before the next election.
You are going to have to talk to the Islanders at some stage with or without Corbyn, so bite the bullet soon.
“Tom O'Carroll, ex-head of Paedophile Information Exchange which campaigned to lower the age of sexual consent to 10, has been suspended by Labour.
Feb 20th, 2016 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Times reported that Mr O'Carroll joined the party in Barrow-in-Furness after Jeremy Corbyn became leader.” Yes, the same Jeremy Corbyn...
Not listening to the referendum results lalalalalalala, not listening to the voice of the Falklands inhabitants lalalalalalalalalala, not taking a reality check about the false arguments put forward by the Argentinians lalalalalalalalalalala, not listening to the arguments about taking our cr@ppy case to the ICJ lalalalalalalalalala can't hear you!!!
Feb 20th, 2016 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain should stamp on this,
Feb 20th, 2016 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell them to go ??
and soddy offy.
Finally Argnetina gets an intelligent foreign minister.
Feb 20th, 2016 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just crossed Malcorra's facebook page and no reference to Falklands (or in her view - Malvinas). For someone that has worked as a Chef de Cabinet (Chief of Staff) serving as the Under-Secretary-General for Field Support at the United Nations - surely she must know that UN resolution 2065 was finished in 1982. Then superseded by 2625 and 2734, free association, self-determination and inalienable rights.
Feb 21st, 2016 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't hear Malcorra even mentioning the ICJ, so this leaves the conclusion that the Argentine method is based on colonialism and conquest by Viveza criolla.
ie Same old deceit & lies just tried on in a new approach! Lying Argentina.
Their arguments will need to be countered by FIG & UK govt.s when talking to other countries as has already been done & must continue. The truth will win out.
Malcorra has a job and that job is to articulate and pursue policies of the Argentinean government. The Argentinean government is constrained by the constitution.
Feb 21st, 2016 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Until the country changes the constituon it can't renounce the claim. However it can downplay it.
Macri and Malcorra are doing a great job of downplaying this issue. I expect the C24 meeting to be quite placid and boring event this year. Argnetina will beat thr drum the minimum amount needed to keep the nuff-nuffs back home happy.
“a horizon of possibility for dialogue”
Feb 21st, 2016 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kinda like a light at the end of a tunnel, one that gets closer to you at a greater speed than the speed you're travelling at. Like an oncoming train...
Of course, there are different opinions, and so forth- as Ms Malcorra says, but those do not affect the fact that the UK is united and potentially ready for any contingency for Falklands peoples rights to independence and sovereignty
Feb 21st, 2016 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#10 Thanks. A wider perspective.
Feb 21st, 2016 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain may at this moment in time be slightly diminished, severe cutbacks to our army , navy , air force,
Feb 21st, 2016 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but we are still more powerful that Argentina will ever by,
so think of how more powerful we will become when we get out of the EU and spend all those wasted billions back on our defence.
best they just go back to sleep.
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Feb 21st, 2016 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was this quote in the story that really got me thinking:
“Here we are observing an internal matter of the UK. There are different perspectives, it's the internal dynamics of the UK of which I prefer not to make comments....”
That shows a degree of maturity that has been absent by almost every Argentinean government representative for the past decade.
She has go toe the line but you will notice that she isn't belligerent about it. It is more like, 'well I have to at least say this part, but I can then move on quickly'.
I think that the FIG have demonstrated a proactive attitude to dialogue with Argentinean politicians.
Feb 22nd, 2016 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Using terms such as 'horizon of possibility' suggests to me that it is a case of same old same old: deny Falklander rights and only accept bilateral talks with Westminster officials.
Does anyone really believe that FIG representatives would get up and walk out of a meeting with Argentinean counterparts if sovereignty was mentioned? Of course they wouldn't, they have the answers to counter any debate.
You can “dialogue” as much as you like Sra.
Feb 22nd, 2016 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0lt won't make a blind bit of difference.
Which part of “we don't want anything to do with Argentina”, don't you understand?
I just cannot make my mind up about The Midget.
Feb 22nd, 2016 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is a bit like the 16 YO virgin (yes, I know i's a long shot) that tells her boyfriend she 'will', then changes her mind and says 'I might'.
I am waiting for The Midget to tell the truth to the dead-heads: 'FFS grow up and leave the Falklanders alone'.
She might make a few friends with that approach.
Reading the above it seems that Sra Malcorra is saying that she sees “there is a horizon of possibility for Argentina to have a dialogue on the issue“. Nowhere does she refer to dialogue with the Falkland Islanders but she does say “the maximum expectation belongs to that established by the national constitution, there's no debate on that”. So in other words the inclusion of the right to sovereignty in the Argentine constitution is non-negotiable and unchangeable.
Feb 22nd, 2016 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What she appears to be saying is that any dialogue will take place with the UK without the participation of the Falkland Islanders and any discussions must end up with Argentine sovereignty - now isn't that exactly the same thing that Argentina has been saying for half a century or more?.
Now maybe this is for home consumption, I am unable to say, but it seems to me that her statement amounts to the same old, same old.
Has she been consulting astrologers? If so, I believe the Moon is rising in Uranus, Snra. Malcorra.
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malcorra confident 'there's a horizon of possibility for dialogue'
Feb 23rd, 2016 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This may well have a true ring to it,
The argy ships starts to sink, and malcorra is desperate,
Over the horizon British ships sail,
She begs for Dialogue over this vast distance by mobile phone,
And we ignore her, as is our right.
Dialogue, horizon, malcorra,
Anything’s possible….lol
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Feb 24th, 2016 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Now maybe this is for home consumption, I am unable to say, but it seems to me that her statement amounts to the same old, same old.”
I have a suspicion that Macri and co realise they haven't a snowflakes chance in hell of getting then Falklands, but don't want their public to know.
I believe this is for domestic consumption, i.e. Macri has spoken already of the need for years of negotiation, which implies something will happen eventually, but not under his watch-so no fairyland promises, unlike Menem's “Falklands will be Argentine by 2000”
Of course the Argentine constitution requires Argentine occupation of the Falklands.
My guess is that if Macri's party can cling to power by using as neutral language as possible, in the hope is that Argentina's economy will recover and thought s will be less on the Malvinas Myth but on a more satisfying standard of living.
How many Argentines gave a rat's ass for the Falklands between 1900-1930 when they were wealthy?
I guess the real litmus test will be what is said at the C24.
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