The private visit to Paraguay of Falkland Islands lawmaker Phyllis Rendell and her strong statements regarding sovereignty and the future of the Islands had an immediate reaction from the Argentine ambassador in Asunción Eduardo Zuain, who described the statements as an unnecessary provocation. Read full article
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Mar 11th, 2016 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Amazing that after a decade of the Kirchners uttering unnecessary provocations, it was this that broke the camel's back?
Mar 11th, 2016 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow Argentina, get some perspective!
PS: The UN does recognise the Falkland's Legislative Assembly as witnessed by the C24 constantly interrogating them every year. Can't have it both ways. Sorry.
Nobody recognizes them ??
Mar 11th, 2016 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Canadian government has done exactly that, on three separate occassions since 2009 (twice by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, and once via the PMO).
Silly.
Of course Argentine won't talk about war. They'd much rather pretend it never happened, it doesn't count, or it was all somebody else's fault.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Ambassador Zuain, the UN does not say that, nor the rest of the world. At the last count, Argentina claimed to have the reliable (?) backing of 63 heads of State - that would be a tad less than 1/3rd of the UN, and slightly less of the rest of the world.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UN recognises the FIG - in fact, the DEcolonization Committee welcomed the FIG members in 1982 as representatives of the Falklands people.
But then, who expects an old Peronist to actually use facts?
An unnecessary provocation?
Mar 11th, 2016 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0So what were the events in 1982? And the continuous badgering of La Kretina and her cohorts for so many years?
Is the Argentine diplomatic service full of insensitive idiots?
What exactly is this provocation!
Mar 11th, 2016 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is Argentina going to do exactly? More bull shit?Military intervention?
No airforce,no Navy,so more bullshit and lies.
”The official recalled that Argentina does not recognize the Falklands' Legislative Assembly “since it's illegitimate, because the territory belongs to Argentina. I'm not saying this on my own, it's what United Nations, Latin America and the rest of the world are saying. Nobody recognizes them”
Mar 11th, 2016 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0So it's ok for Argentina to go around Latin America and elsewhere peddling crap like that and worse, but it's not ok for an elected representative of the FIG to counter the lies and twisted logic with the truth.
These Argentinian spokespeople are hypocrites.
MLA Rendell makes ambassador Zuain look like a complete amateur.
MLA Rendell should beware insult the brave ish argentine at your peril if roused they will send their mighty armarda of old Russian TUGS OF DOOM and clapped out sail boats to strain your rescue abilites and clogg up the harbour with rusting junk.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina the Comedy north korea of south america.
Paraguay fertile ground, they lost a chunk to Argentina's imperialism too. Of course Argentines lie about it and bury the fact.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any way the vast Argentine Empire of the South Atlantic of the indoctrinated is not going to happen, by the looks of it the Islanders are determined to remain British.
Violence is not to accept this and not to cultivate peace and friendship with the islanders.
The invented dispute of the 1940 decade and the indoctrination of the young in Argentina is the violence that after a generation of brainwashing these lies about the false claims in to the minds of its young caused the war in the first place.
oh.... a strong statement by an argento functionary.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world trembles.
Not.
As I have always mentioned. Hard Line islanders (and British) had their best partner in the stupic peronists. Both are of the very same kind.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A rational, and moderate, argentine government leaves these people, ones like Phyllis Rendell, in evidence. So, for islanders playing the role of the victim will be harder during Macri's government...it might be the time to change the speech !!!
People like Phyllis Rendell are putting in evidence the true nature of some, very few in fact, islanders and british people.
WAR war war...
Mar 11th, 2016 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0unnecessary provocation,
twats and incompetent corrupt greedy land stealing criminals,
oh how they are always the bloody victim,
provocation unnecessary provocation,
against the Falkland islanders,
the threats abuse the lying the harassment,
the intimidation attempted blockade,
unnecessary provocation,
Against the innocent peaceful islanders,
from an arrogant bully like ARGENTINA.
bloody grow up man, and stop playing with your action men.
The British tourist came to talk about war, about violence, not us.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stick your head in the sand as much as you like and pretend 'not us guv it was Galteiri who wasn't really Argentine”
You started the war Argentina, not the Falkland Islanders.
You are a disfunctional country(even now Macri is in) who had the chance to get the Islanders on side and blew it after invading.
All your fault. All your bad. All your mistakes.
openly stated that the South Atlantic islands, which are claimed by Argentina, are British, and the Islanders have British citizenship as Scot and Welsh nationals.
This is a fact-suck it up.
Argentina do not control the Islands or occupy it in any way-they might as well claim every other country on the globe that they do not occupy is theirs.
It isn't unless you occupy it, with consent from the people born there.
I'm not saying this on my own, it's what United Nations, Latin America and the rest of the world are saying. Nobody recognizes them”
Your problem Amigo is that they don't and you are lying-go to the ICJ,muppet.
underlined that “negotiations are with London and not with the Islanders.”
Typical fascist dictator-we demand, we demand 'Ein Volk. Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer'
We say according to the Charter of the United Nations that if you don't talk to the Islanders (AS PRE 1982-The Frank's Report 1983), there are no talks!
Suck it Up Fascists!
The Argentine are really terrible diplomats.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their feathers get so easily ruffled.
“Nobody recognizes them”...well except.....
Mar 11th, 2016 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Commonwealth Parliamentary Association during its conference in Johannesburg, South Africa, accepted a motion recognising the Falkland Islands Referendum as a free and fair expression of the Falkland Islanders wishes and their right to Self-Determination.
“This Association recognises the internationally observed Referendum held in the Falkland Islands over the period 10 and 11 March 2013, which sought the electorate’s views on their Political status, as a free and fair expression of Falkland Islanders wishes and their right to Self-Determination.”
So that is at least a quarter of the world, plus Europe....so what were you saying again...
So the Argy fails to show due respect to a democratically elected official.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He also is confused when reminded that it was Argy-land that lost the war.
The democratically elected representative of the People of the Falkland Island, was simply making it clear they do not wish to negotiate away their sovereign rights.
The right to self-determination of a people or population is enshrined in UN law, and trumps all else.
@17 : Argentina didn't lose the war . They sank the entire task force ( twice ) and killed 10,000 British soldiers .
Mar 11th, 2016 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not quite sure why they didn't take the surrender of the survivors and carry on occupying the place , though .
That's what happens when you let amateurs think they are governing themselves...they start to believe it...
Mar 11th, 2016 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...and precisely why the FCO handles foreign diplomacy...
dip·lo·mat·ic/ˌdipləˈmadik/
adjective
of or concerning the profession, activity, or skill of managing international relations.
skilled in dealing with sensitive matters or people; tactful.
The stupidity of the woman beggars belief....
I think more and more that Argentines just have difficulty with the truth, period!
Mar 11th, 2016 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
Mar 11th, 2016 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In spite of your personal slant, Phyllis Rendell is the legal representative of a peoples that have exercised their jus cogens right of self-determination. She is not in any way restricted by the lack of clarity that the language of diplomacy sometime conveys. But, more importantly there is nothing in her statement that isn't true.
If she is asked a question she gives her answer: If Argentina doesn't want the answer, don't ask the question. But, then, perhaps Argentina asked the question to get that answer...Another reason to bring the subject up yet again and again....
Mar 11th, 2016 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Talking abt sovereignty ----
Mar 11th, 2016 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and if we are still here to defend our interests,
David stated thus,
we will never sign up for any further integration or the full union,
but what he did not say was ???
Britain can only opt out of full Union in the long term by withdrawing from the Lisbon Treaty, signed in 2007, which is a treaty for full Union that came into full effect in 2014.
Few people seem to understand that the EU really will be European Union, not a group of separate countries. [[ The UK really will be gone as an independent country.]] Since November 2014 EU decisions are based on majority voting without a veto. The UK has only one in twelve of the votes. As the EU progresses towards full union the voice of the UK will disappear entirely from the world stage
http://pol-check.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/membership-of-eu-pros-and-cons.html
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perhaps it will suit Argentina if we stayed and got swallowed up,
perhaps that is what the EU will promise macri when he visits the unmighty EU
Just finished the walk up to Mach Picchu, a stroll for pussys like the Scotch.. Met loads of Peruvians. No one thinks the Falkland Islands belongs to Argentina. They all laugh at the Argies. Looking forward to a Cuy mega blowout this evening. TV is full of Trump and the forthcoming Presidential contest here. Like Argieland it looks like a move to the right. Spain and the Pope have been a bad influence and kept SA backward.
Mar 11th, 2016 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Briton
Mar 11th, 2016 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting post about Lidbon Treaty etc.
I wonder why nobody is mentioning this set of circumstances and conditions.
Can't tourists say anything ehy want?
Mar 12th, 2016 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argys are so touchy.
Especially when they know they're wrong.
18#
Mar 12th, 2016 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not quite sure why they didn't take the surrender of the survivors and carry on occupying the place , though
Argentina didn't accept the surrender from the 'defeated' British and carry on their occupation of the Falklands because the Pope told them that to take what belongs to somebody else is stealing and that stealing is a sin!
And because they are all such good Catholics, the rest is history.
London's FATBERGS destroying the citizen's ability to urinate and defecate, under current trends we will be back to War era outhouse stalls for everyone in 10-20 years.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0The other side effect? London is the new site for EVOLUTION: giant mutant RATS!
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/this-huge-rat-was-found-1383359283707958.html
Darwin would be proud.
What an appetizing city to dine in...
Nostril, London had sewers when you lot were still shitting in trenches, and guess what, two centuries later you are still shitting in trenches! But you wouldnt admit that would you?
Mar 12th, 2016 - 02:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils hasn't been anywhere in his life so he lives vicariously through us.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@29
Mar 12th, 2016 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? And the Romans (even in the most pathetic little Roman village out in nowhere), where bathing in multi-temperature saunas, had free potable water at a hand's reach, shopping malls, end-to-end empire mail, a system of superhighways (for it's time), arenas, theater, and universal public restroom sewage... when London was a heaping collection of holes dug into the peat, with barbarians chopping stones and tearing meat with their teeth.
Thank Trajan or whoever was that brought into civilization.
What was your point again?
@28 CapiTrollism_is_back!!
Mar 12th, 2016 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rumour has it that the rat arrived in a shipment of Argentine wine!
@28
Mar 12th, 2016 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can stand down, Tobi, the rat picture's a hoax.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/monster-rat-hoax-rodent-size-7540178
ambassador Zuain
Mar 12th, 2016 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like an oxymoron.
Isn't he a precious little flower?
Macri needs to get a grip on idiots like this 'ambassador' before it gets out of hand and they return to the nonsense spouted by TMBOA.
Pathetic.
Hey Argentina, why don't you PROVE that the UK's sovereignty over the Falkland Islands is illegitimate?
Mar 12th, 2016 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Argentina PROVE it. PROVE why a military COLONY which rebelled, committed mutiny, murdered their commanding officer, raped his wife and threatened the lives of the CIVILIAN population who'd been there years before the murderous military types turned up, usurps British sovereignty which can be traced back to 1690?
Then you can PROVE why an illegal military colony, which was in place for less than 6 weeks, overturns CONTINUOUS occupation by the Falkland Islanders since before the illegal military colony turned up, and then you can PROVE why that usurps the right to self determination as laid out in the UN Charter, UNGA resolutions 1514 AND 2065. Also the UK didn't use force to remove the illegal military COLONY from the United Provinces (Argentina DID NOT EXIST at the time - no matter how much you rewrite history), they just told them to leave, which they did WITHOUT one shot being fired.
And then please explain how the whole world can support you when the Commonwealth of nations RECOGNISE the Falkland Islanders right to self determination, and their sovereignty of the islands, and why the UN also recognises British sovereignty over the islands.
So take all the PROOF you can (but you must have EVIDENCE to back it up) and take it to the ONLY international body that can order a change of sovereignty - the International Courts of Justice. Until you do this it is Argentina's claim that is illegal, illegitimate and a joke.
By the way, why does one Falkland Islander expressing her opinion (as is the right of ALL people in the FREE world) such a provocation to Argentina? Afraid of people realising that Argentina is a liar?
Well Mr Zuain ( a good native Amerindian name that...NOT) the world already knows that Argentina is a liar. They know that Argentina are a bunch of thieves, and they know that Argentina behave like bullies and cowards too.
It's perfectly understandable how a European posing as a South American in Buenos Aries would feel provoked by someone that lives 1000+ miles away visiting a city that is 6oo+ miles away in the other direction and making comments that boil down to a basic idea of freedom.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone better just do as they are told, or he'll roll around on the floor kicking and screaming. CFK would be proud.
Nostril, the Romans arrived first time in Britain in 46 BC, they left us their technology. The Civil Engineers who built Londons sewers in the early 1800s took that technology everywhere around the world to nations like yours and they are still going it. Google Sir Alexander Gibb and partners. Then go down to the sad villa in the middle of BA and tell us what you see. A stinking morass!
Mar 12th, 2016 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37
Mar 12th, 2016 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They were the consultants on the El Chocon and Portozuelo Grande dams in the sixtys.
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Mar 12th, 2016 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 025 Troy Tempest (#)
@23 Briton
Interesting post about Lidbon Treaty etc.
I wonder why nobody is mentioning this set of circumstances and conditions
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for the same reason David Cameron's government has now refused point blank over how many immigrants are here,
and say it may disclose after the referendum,
the reason being, is that the people would totally and utterly humiliate him and probably ruin his chances of joining Mr Blair in their ambition to be president of this failed corrupt EU.
but that is only my opinion.
Mrs. Rendell is a most distinguished Falkland Islander. And she is entitled to her opinions about the Falkland's sovereignty issues, which were solved forever by strong military means in 1982.
Mar 12th, 2016 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any comments by malvinazi diplomats are irrelevant,
Philippe
@1 marquitos alejandrito
Mar 12th, 2016 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More juvenile drivel, I see! When are you going to make an adult contribution to the debate, nene?
@41 gordo1
Mar 12th, 2016 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gordo,
I didn't even notice he had posted !
Marcos is so insipid that he is automatically tuned out, now...
LOL!!
Tierra del Fuego will be decolonised and returned to the original inhabitants within 25 years.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0A few months ago I went to Torres del Paine and everyone thought the Argies were tossers and said dont lend them any gear. Now here in Peru I am getting the same thing. So much for SA solidarity! I expect that this guys utterances carry the same weight in SA as VoiceofThink's. ZERO… Yet another Argie tosser. YAAT!
Mar 13th, 2016 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0British tourist says RGs full of shit... Ambassador issues statement... way too funny.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Count how many different ways...
Mar 13th, 2016 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0even different threads...The Voice will try to tell us.... he's back from Peru....
Does he really think we GAF...
Oh dear....
Haha, very easy to ring VoiceofThink's clanger. I read that the 'well off' in Scotland are to be taxed until the pips squeak to pay for the Socialist State of Scotland all engineered by the whining poison dwarf. Anybody with sense will be moving south. And we dont GAF.. its laughable. Keep the red flag flying there. Off to the jungle..
Mar 13th, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 THE Voice
Mar 13th, 2016 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0wee voice doesn't travel anywhere. Odds are that he can't. Criminal record, no-fly list, or what have you...
Ironic that he tries to put down anyone else as liars, who visit other countries freely.
Jealousy and frustration, on his part.
Ask Voice the meaning of Integral in relation to the Falklands and Argentina.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It refuses to answer on another thread.
Guess it can't.
Mr Osborne stated today that we have a veto,
Mar 13th, 2016 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no one questions it,
Mr Obama will come and demand we stay,
no one will question it,
are we now to assume we are lead by a corrupt lying cheating government that no longer represents the British people,
but the biddings of a supreme race called the EU overlords.
Troy & 49 VoiceofThink is evasive its true. The Argies just come up with irrelavent facts and miss the point in relation to the FI. Its British and has been since at least 1765 and it has excellent defences as was demonstrated in 1982. So, end of argument, QED.
Mar 13th, 2016 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As one travels throughout SA it clear why its so backward, Spanish Culture and pointless idol worship. Any centre politician has a hard time. People want handouts that rob the successful, just like in VoiceofThink's Scotland. Its a chaotic place. There is no sympathy for Argentines who seem to have a reputation for dishonesty and crookedness. Their 'Malvinas' whining is just seen as another example of that and causes much hilarity. Advice from the locals is bolt everything down or they will steal it. You can see the evidence everywhere with grilles on windows, iron railings around parked vehicles and rabid dogs on chains.
As for VoiceofThink, he pontificates about places he cant afford to visit, and enjoys nitpicking designed to wind people up although its totally irrelavent. It is rumoured that he once got as far as visiting MacGregors fish bar in Dumbarton. The rest is wishful thinking.
@51 The Voice
Mar 14th, 2016 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't forget that he documented his visit to the new Morrisons for groceries, in South Dunoon.
It appears that he has visited the Starbucks in downtown Glasgow, or at least aspires to.
Bit of an ostentatious and pretentious luxury, according to him and Think, though.
As one travels throughout SA
Mar 14th, 2016 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would that be Peru....?
Oh no...he managed to get it in again....
;-)))))))
@53
Mar 14th, 2016 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be jealous, wee voicey
Unnecessary provocation?
Mar 14th, 2016 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try this one: gimp, ugly, effeminate Argentine
Some drippy Ambassador just trying to polish up his populist credentials. Meanwhile the RG publicity machine churns out stories of support from Hollande of France, Morales in Bolivia and now Cuba.
Mar 14th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does this look a bit like double standards. Its OK for Argentina to be upping the ante but not us.
Grow up.
”President (Mauricio) Macri has been very clear that dialogue is the way forward“, said ambassador Zuain,”
Mar 14th, 2016 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But if you refuse to talk to Islanders there won't be any dialogue whether Macri wants it or not.
Cue another few centuries of inactivity, Argentina whinges,Argentina invades again, gets its arse kicked again-back to asking everyone on Earth except the people who live on the Islands to support them- whinges, invades-gets arse kicked-whinges -recurring forever.......
Until the sun becomes a red dwarf and the Malvinazis occupy the Falklands when the rest of the world is escaping the Earth.
It's 100% guaranteed that the Malvanistas will rip up their escape tickets and dance all over the Falklands three months before the Earth goes up in flames and wonder why everyone else has left?
The Spanish taught the argis well,
Mar 14th, 2016 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0steal what you can , or use other methods like false talking,
brainwashing to believe what they are told, rather than the truth.
The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Mar 16th, 2016 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0@59
Mar 16th, 2016 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's a Malvina? How many are there?
@59
Mar 16th, 2016 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hepatitis will be cured in the next 25 years.
Good news for you,yellow one!
@59
Mar 16th, 2016 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're boring.
He only does it for attention.
Mar 16th, 2016 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 Briton,
Mar 17th, 2016 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0You mean IT only does it for the attention! lol.
@59 Hepatia,
Argentina will return the land it stole off Paraguay within 25 years.
Argentina will return Sta Cruz to the Falklands within 25 years.
Argentina may cease to exist within 25 years.
Everyone believes in free speech but you still can't shout fire in a crowded theater. Macri can't reverse Argy policy on the Falklands - the issue is too deeply ingrained in the psyche of the average Argentine. What he can do is de-emphasize it to the point that no-one pays attention to it anymore. But it is a slow process, and (to mix my metaphor) if you are letting the fire die down it doesn't help when someone else comes around and gives it a good poke. Ms. Rendell and her associates need to get with the program here. There is no reason whatever right now for her to go disturbing matters. The Argentine ambassador's response should not be taken too seriously - all he is doing is playing to the Argentine man in the street audience which would probably get upset if there were no response to Ms. Rendell's goading.
Mar 17th, 2016 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So - play the game. Right now nothing is going to come out of Argentina that presents any kind of threat to the Falklands. Leave well alone and Macri when he feels the time is right will start the process of normalizing relations - direct sea and air links, modest trade, maybe even some participation in oil development. But you've got to give him a chance to establish the right environment, and making the kind of official statement that came from Ms. Rendell really does not help.
I just returned from a cruise around the Horn and my favourite stop was the Falklands. The folk there were terrific with very British accents and manners and on a shuttle bus to Gypsy Cove, the driver ( driving on the left) told us she had lived there since she was three and her two children will be going to University in England. She had a trip planned home and when someone asked where home was, she looked surprised and said the UK of course.
Mar 17th, 2016 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is a beautiful place, reminded me of Nova Scotia in Canada. Lovely gardens and nicely kept houses. Surprisingly big, expensive vehicles as well. Loved the diddle dee jam!
@65, 66
Mar 17th, 2016 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great posts !!
Hey VoiceofThink, nearly at the end of my trip. The Amazon was great. Lots of lovebites :-))l Why dont you go for a cruise? The Gourock ferry is calling, great fish bar there.
Mar 18th, 2016 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0,PROJECT FEAR: Now Gibraltar calls on UK to think 'very carefully' about 'dangerous' Brexit
Mar 19th, 2016 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE Gibraltar First Minister has accused Tory MPs of not putting their people’s best interests first if they are deciding to back a Brexit.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/653929/Gibraltar-Brexit-MPs-think-very-carefully
[[ MPs of not putting their people’s best interests first ]]
Once again, they ARE putting people’s interest first, by giving the British people a free choice to remain or leave.
No disrespect to Gibraltar or its people,
Gibraltar’s first minister surely will not want to stay with a country that has vote to leave, when Gibraltar wants to remain.
You can come with us, and let Britain and you get the best deal,
Or you simply ask for independence, and remain in the EU in your own sovereign right.
Just my humble opinion of course.
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