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Judge Griesa sends strong message of support for Argentina at crucial moment

Wednesday, March 16th 2016 - 17:29 UTC
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As the Argentine congress started to debate an end to the 15-year litigation, United States District Judge Thomas Griesa sent a new message of support to Argentina by claiming he won’t allow any attempts to seize the funds to be used by Argentina to pay the holdout creditors. Read full article

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  • Briton

    Will they ever get their money back,

    or is this just Argentina playing the waiting game, and hoping they all drop dead of boredom first.

    Mar 16th, 2016 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Griesa is planning to retire in a few weeks and this is one way for him to try to wash his hands. The new judge for his district will likely get to hear claims from the thousands of holdout bondholders who were denied the very pari passu that Griesa used to get Argentina to maybe consider paying its obligations.

    Mar 16th, 2016 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Griesa is a very honorable man.
    So many other Judges could have made the lives of the Argentine Gov't very uncomfortable.

    Mar 16th, 2016 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @3 Oh, yes, Griesa is considered essentially a saint in Argentina.....

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    There's a big but in all this that is conditioned on the 2nd circuit appeals court acquiescing to Griesa's position.

    Now here is the twisted logic that you only hear from those of similarly ilk to the rg:

    Gay Prat says that he is concerned that a possible attachment of proceeds will impair the sale of the wash out bonds. Decoded: Gay Pratt is concerned that he won't get an acceptable price for these bonds and that he may not be able to fully control the disbursement of the proceeds. The subterfuge: Since the receipts won't go into a NY escrow account he can divert them from their supposed purpose as Macaroni sees fit - not the US courts. The 2nd court of appeals gets this. The dilemma: If you are touched by or are required to touch a greased pig you're going to have grease on you. Griesa falls for the rg ploy - hence the intercession by the superior court. Nice try Macaroni - not. The rg subtext: If we sell the bonds and are forced to use the bulk or even all of the raise to satisfy NY claimants we may repudiate these as well since they were foisted on us not by an illicit domestic government but by a global cabal seeking to once more loot rg. Bottom line: Bad rg paper covered with bad rg paper.

    Rgs once again seemingly unable to speak the truth or abide by a prior commitment. Macaroni's crew just has longer hair and louder sport coats but they're still thievin' rgs.

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    5. Are you trying to tell us the Argys are not forthright and honorable people?
    Say it isn't so!

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Norteamericano is shit!

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    Anyone want to take a wild guess which currency is, pound for POUND, the worst performing currency in the WORLD last 5 weeks?

    hahahahaha.

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dsullivanboston

    funny this is the same judge CFK and the midget were claiming were so bias?

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @8
    But it outperforming the Arg $ and we do not have 30-40% inflation year on year
    HaHaHa up yours

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @7 Brassiero

    “Norteamericano is shit!”

    Wow!!

    What a statement!!

    Imagine the outrage and indignation, cries of discrimination and condescension if one of us were to say

    “sudamericanos are shit”.

    Brassiere, your prejudices and political self-interest are palpable.

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @10 Annual inflation rate in Argentistan as of February was 32.9% (congressional IPC numbers) and that is just so far this year. The central bank is offering notes at 38 percent effective annual rate. Wheelbarrows, anyone?

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Shades of the Bundesbank . . . .

    Mar 17th, 2016 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Macri had said dollars would start pouring as soon as rates were freed; he also expected the large agricultural producers to begin selling their harvest at high speed so dollars would be coming in like crazy. Nothing happened.
    Now he and his financial wizards are promising investments will begin rushing in as soon as the vultures are paid. This, of course, won't happen. Macri and friends don't care much. The banks designated to handle the vulture “normalization” operation will make millions in commissions, as they will with any subsequent borrowing.
    Meanwhile, over 100,000 public and private sector employees have been laid off, with more to come. (Google: layoffs - Argentina).
    Some companies have already been hit by the elimination of duties on mined minerals that has made more profitable to export raw than to process it in the country.
    Only a few are experiencing the “Joyful Revolution” promised by Macri.
    Only the 1 per cent.

    Mar 18th, 2016 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Enrique,

    Rather than wish the best for Argentina, you seem determined to be disillusioned and spread your message of failure and disappointment.

    If I did not know better, I would say that you want the reforms to fail.

    You sound happy.

    A bit naive of you to expect Macri to turn the economic tide in a few days, after ten years of decline, theft, and outright arrogant obstinance.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Only 100,000 ?

    I was hoping for a minimum of 1,ooo,000!

    Lol.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 04:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #15 T Tempest
    It's not a matter of me feeling disillusioned, or alternatively, happy. We cannot influence what happens; only try to understand it.
    The recipes Macri is applying have been tried before--perhaps never so fast and so deep--and ended up in failure.
    Then it's not a matter of expecting “Macri to turn the economic tide in a few days.” He is not going to turn any tide at all: he is a tsunami of negative changes that will throw the country into recession, and the first signs are already there but will become painfully clearer some time down the road.
    I would be the first to be happy if Macri were to prove me wrong and bring prosperity to the people in Argentina. But then again, Macri wouldn't be himself but someone else.

    #16 chronic
    Don't worry. Macri is working on that. His goal is 15 per cent unemployment, which will allow to push wages down to the bottom.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @17 Enrique;

    The country was already in recession, with growing unemployment, 30%+ Inflation, 27% of the population living in poverty, and a very high violent crime rate - all of which were climbing, ever since CFK took power.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    CFK creates an economic mess and Macri gets the blame.

    Typical!

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Cretina didn't spin this web in a vacuum or without the aid of a solid cultural foundation for self absorption and failure.

    What do you expect of rgs?

    Lol.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Survey by Poliarquía Consultores: 69 percent approval of how Macri is managing the government.

    Mar 19th, 2016 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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