MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands waiting UK reaction; extended continental shelf does not apply to mobile species such as squid
The Falkland Islands Government, FIG, reacted to the Tuesday official Argentine announcement of its extension of the continental shelf saying it was waiting clarification from the UK government on the implications, if any for the Islands. What is certain is that it does not affect fisheries or squid catches, one of the Islands main source of income. Read full article
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Mar 29th, 2016 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the plenary level, the Commission adopted, without a vote, two sets of recommendations, namely the recommendations in respect to the submission made by Argentina, and the recommendations in respect to the submission made by Iceland in respect of the Ægir Basin area and in the western and southern parts of Reykjanes Ridge. With regard to the recommendations in respect of the submission made by Argentina, it is recalled that, previously, the Commission had already decided that it was not in a position to consider and qualify those parts of the submission that were subject to dispute and those parts that were related to the continental shelf appurtenant to Antarctica (see CLCS/64, paras. 76 and 77 and CLCS/76 para. 57)
Not in a position ...
Wait....NOW they recognize there is a dispute? Wasn't it that they have been saying all these years that there is no claim?
Mar 29th, 2016 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0What dispute? The Sovereignty dispute was resolved in 1833. The dispute at the UN was resolved in 1982. The dispute over the shelf is the only one left
Mar 29th, 2016 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Marko
Mar 29th, 2016 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks, you really do outline the hypocrisies well.
Indeed, you point out that we have steadfastly maintained there is no fispute over the sovereignty of the Islands.
Not the other thread, you. Roughy attention to slavery of Blacks in the New World, and the subjugation of the non-whites, including the aboriginal peoples of Argentina.
Please note that Argenrina was slow to free the slaves - a full 20 years after Britain declared slavery illegal in Btitish territories.
Add to that the gruesome reminder that as a result of Argentine slavery, 30% of your population was Black - where are they now?
Brazil still has many Blacks descended from slaves. Argentina killed them off i. genocidal social policies or under the cover of war losses.
So much for your moral high ground.
Falklands waiting UK reaction....:
Mar 29th, 2016 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/HMVEG962.jpg
Indeed Think.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0But at least you seem to understand that sovereignty of the Falkland Islands is held by the UK and not Argentina.
They are not waiting for Argentina's reaction because the whole world already knows it.... even before the UN has fully disclosed the decision.
MeThinks that Neandethal knuckle dragger VoiceofThink has made a timing error in his eagerness to crow over this rather stupid and pointless decision. Proves conclusively that he posts from Dunoon, not Chubut. Unless of course he is a raving insomniac or only emerges at night. Oh dear - fail..
Mar 29th, 2016 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://em.wattpad.com/efdc85fa0c4cde08bc320e5f63c4bf1b9de30a1f/687474703a2f2f73642e6b65657063616c6d2d6f2d6d617469632e636f2e756b2f692f6b6565702d63616c6d2d616e642d646f6e2d742d70616e69632d3137312e706e67?s=fit&h=360&w=720&q=80
Mar 29th, 2016 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0;-))))))))))
When the Champagne has run dry and the celebrations wind down, reality will set in.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Why won't anybody take any notice of the new map of the world that we have created?” Will be the lament coming from all the heroes who have spent the last twenty years trying to make Argentina great. But it will all be somebody else’s fault of course!
Is there any source at all for this story beyond AP quoting the Argentines and everyone then quoting AP? The UN press release includes the dispute caveat and since Britain hasn't even been asigned a subcommittee yet then it would be extraordinary (even for the UN) to rule for one side before having even looked at the other side's case. Also the decision was unanimous which would seem unlikely if this was the final decision. Surely someone has got the wrong end of the stick here? Or is it pure political theatre in which the Argentines realise it could be years before the UK position is heard and so they act in the meantime as if the UN ruled in their favour?
Mar 29th, 2016 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So in theory any jurisdiction over extended continental shelf areas beyond 200 miles and out to 350 miles does not apply to mobile marine living resources such as squid. Any extensions of continental shelf areas are more relevant to mineral resources”.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't the nutty argies get the UN to declare that all squid and other moblie marine living resources are Argie citizens, and are therefore “protected” from being 'fished' by other countries ?
A Buenos Aires newspaper claims that have already made deals exploitation of oil more than 10 companies OF CHINA, RUSSIA AND THE UNITED STATES. The film is called “SURROUNDED” HAHA
Mar 29th, 2016 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12
Mar 29th, 2016 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Claudio I think you're wrong there. I think the film is called 'Carry on at your Convenience'
Well- Think-Marcos and others- now we have it from the UN press release - from the UN-Not Argentina:
Mar 29th, 2016 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN does not make any recommendations over areas where there are territorial disputes. Nor anywhere souyth of 60 as that is all under the Ant Treaty anyway.
We all knew that- and your deputy Foreign Minister knew it as well! Shame that his boss and the rest of you fell for it and believed your own bullshit - yet again!
10 Redrow
Mar 29th, 2016 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have nailed it with your post and the deadbeats know there is nothing in it but they are just taking the opportunity to do what they do best and try to stir the shit.
@12 Claudio
Mar 29th, 2016 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“SURROUNDED”
Would that be surrounded by your Navy?
Must all be stealthy ships as no one can see any.
Argentines are peaceful as GHANDI, it is the only way, the peace and the association with the great powers !!
Mar 29th, 2016 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Keep calm and carry on”
Mar 29th, 2016 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This would appear to yet another grouping of dictatorships and banana republics cobbling together yet another none legally binding recommendation. Great news for Argentina that as we know grasps all it can to provide cheat and happiness. The reality however is 'nothing has changed'.
I look forward to the first Argentine ships entering the Falklands EEZ. They will be the first and last.
@4
Mar 29th, 2016 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I have always say. Don't try to write about argentine history. Simply because you know nothing about it !!!
Argentina freed the slaves almost with the born of the country. So, at least regarding black people, you cannot consider Argentina a “slavery land”. It has never been this way simply because Argentina was a poor part of the Spanish Empire, with neither mines nor farms, so black slaves were not needed at all.
Just a small number of colour people were being used for domestic tasks in rich people houses. From where did you get that they were 30% of argentine population?
Original people were not badly treated taking into account the time of the events and comparing thier situation to USA, Peru, Chile or Australia. In fact, during the Desert Campaign, 1/3 of the argentine army were indians fighting for the Argentine Nation, some even wearing official uniforms and under the orders of the high ranked officials.
,The drive to destroy Britain,
Mar 29th, 2016 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By its own inactivity and incompetence.
1, EU admits plot for FEDERAL superstate and describes Brussels attacks as an 'opportunity'
A SENIOR MEP provoked anger today by describing the recent terror outrages in Brussels as an “opportunity” to turn the EU into a “full political union”.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/656436/EU-plot-federal-superstate-Brussels-attacks-opportunity-political-union
2, Spain threatens to drive Gibraltar to COLLAPSE with border shutdown threat
BELLIGERENT Spain has threatened to SHUT DOWN Gibraltar if Britain leaves the EU in a move that could see the overseas territory close to collapse
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/656436/EU-plot-federal-superstate-Brussels-attacks-opportunity-political-union
3, David is on holiday, and yet 30,000 brits sign a petition to keep him there.
His ministers of project fear, roll out the=NHS will collapse and our grandchildren will suffer if we leave, and the steel is abt to collapse, all his own parties doing, but we will get the blame if we leave
In the meantime thousands of British taxpayers money is given to projects for call girls in Belize and training for some from North Korea,[ the lion then, has been truly drugged.
3,
David Cameron dismisses Argentina's claim to the waters surrounding the Falkland Islands
A United Nations commission has recommended that Argentina's maritime territory should be expanded across the South Atlantic Ocean, encompassing the Falkland Islands
A leaseholder with no ownership to the soil it sits on.
Said it once and will keep saying it,
Britain needs to get of its arse and do something, just sitting there and saying NO isn’t fooling anyone. It’s to bloody late later to say oopps, sorry,
The unmighty EU wants a trade deal with south America, now unless im a china man, the Falkland’s may well stand in the way of this, how or why , is for them to work out, but considering the overlords tell our government what to do, im not h
This is of course only a recommendation made by a committee, not the full UN Council. The recommendation has a clause that clearly states that in the case of disputed territories, this recommendation does not apply. This is just hype - nothing has changed, the Falkands remain free and a British Overseas Territory with 200 nautical miles of territorial waters which include all the current oil exploration platforms and search areas.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So.. nothing has changed. Bluff, bluster and yet again an enormous waste of everybody's time and Argentine tax payers money. This is like a piss poor circus which refuses to leave town ffs.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“This acknowledgement means the UN accept there is a dispute over the South Atlantic islands, and is “another diplomatic victory” for Argentina said Deputy minister Foradori.”
The UN has already accepted a dispute exists. A diplomatic victory my backside! In what way, shape or form is having a dispute recognised for the 2nd time a flipping victory!?
There will be no “exercise of rights” because Argentina haven't been granted shit. Everybody move along, nothing to see here.
This is an absolute embarrassment. I'm actually surprised this story is receiving the attention that it is other then to point out yet again that Argentina is the ONLY country to EVER have ignored a BINDING resolution regarding the Falklands.
Pfffft!
Read the UN press release ,
Mar 29th, 2016 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Mar 29th, 2016 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands patiently awaiting UK reaction...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/HMVEG962.jpg
But, how did the all seeing MARKET react today on the good news?
Rockflopper, one of the two remaining minnows in Malvinas...: Down 8.28%
Premier Oil, the other oily one....., struggling with bankrupcy...: Down 8.75%
Some of them trader comments are real pearls!
You should Google them...
Chuckle chuckle
El Think
,28 March 2016
Mar 29th, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SEA/2030
Commission on Limits of Continental Shelf Concludes Fortieth Session
Round-up Release
Read the UN press release
At the plenary level, the Commission adopted, without a vote, two sets of recommendations, With regard to the recommendations in respect of the submission made by Argentina, it is recalled that, previously, the Commission had already decided that it was not in a position to consider and qualify those parts of the submission that were subject to dispute and those parts that were related to the continental shelf appurtenant to Antarctica (see CLCS/64, paras. 76 and 77 and CLCS/76 para. 57).
Read on.
http://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sea2030.doc.htm
Falklands not actually mentioned.
24 Neanderthal knuckle dragging Turnip that obviously doesnt have any experience holding shares. If share prices go down its a potential buying opportunity. The current value only matters if you want to sell and that will be when the wells are all gushing. Doh! You are really thick! No wonder your homeland is in the pickies. With folk like you though its not really surprising.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you still saving for that Gourock ferry cruise?
Geeeeeeeeee.............................., I have plenty experience holding shares!!!
Mar 29th, 2016 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some years ago... a jolly good poster in here was kind enough to introduce me to capitalism investing in some Borders & Southern Petroleum shares under my name....
I Think he paid about a Pound Sterling each at the time...
I Think they are worth around a Penny today...
I can chuckle about that...
I don't Think British investors can...
Yes they are Think, the astute ones are buying whilst Knuckle Draggers like yourself are selling Bahahahaha… . Buy cheap, sell high!
Mar 29th, 2016 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really are sooooo thick. No wonder Argentina teeters on the brink of the tbird world. Home of the Giant Sloth (which explains the idleness of the inhabitants) and the worlds biggest Dinosaur, now living in Dunoon!
Think is back to share prices.... yawn.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well I guess he can't exactly gloat about his country's advancement of its sovereignty fable now, can he?
Think, I'll buy your shares. As I will outlive your for several decades they will be worth enough to drink to Argentina's continuing failure regarding its sovereignty fable.
Which will then be hitting the 250 year mark I'm estimating.
In Mexico they say that the best business deal in the world is to sell an Argentine for he thinks he is worth, and buy them for what they are really worth.
Mar 29th, 2016 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1833 you were using weapons drove the Argentine legally inhabited the islands, they killed one in the process. The reign of terror ended when but not less than 40 years squatters will return to their small country.
Mar 30th, 2016 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 031 Claudio
Mar 30th, 2016 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 01833:
- Argentine garrison soldiers killed Argentine “Governor”.
-Argentine Captain Pinedo arrested Argentine soldiers/criminals and took them to UPS United Provinces.
1982:
- 11,000 Argentine soldiers attacked 3,ooo farmers.
-3 farmers died
-650 Argentine soldiers died
40 Years:
-Falklands are British
-Argentina is owned by China
When was the name Argentina recognised as being Argentina instead of “ The United Provinces”
Mar 30th, 2016 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0@31 claudio_laplata
Mar 30th, 2016 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0U spekie di inglish? No se entiende nada, nabo!
Unsure of the excitement really.
Mar 30th, 2016 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0When you add up Australia's landmass with our EEZ and our continental shelf and then add our Antarctic Territory..... then about 5% of the planet is Australian.
Roughly the same as Russia. Now that is a lot of wealth we have for only 24 million people.
@31
Mar 30th, 2016 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In 1833 you were using weapons drove the Argentine legally inhabited the islands”
“ they killed one in the process.”
Who exactly was killed by Captain Onslow's men in 1833?
There is NO evidence that there was any violence used at all. Captain Onslow wrote a letter to Pinedo.
You still will not admit the embarrassing truth that in 1833 most of Pinedo's sailors-the main part of his force that could offer resistance to Onslow's men, were BRITISH.
How is it a surprise to you that they did not want to fight their own nationals?
This is why in 1982, the British task force were not stupid enough to have 80% Argentine sailors serving in the Royal Navy and then scratching their heads when they got to the Falklands and find the Argentines inevitably would refuse to fight their own.
Are you aware of the British phrase 'common sense'?
Once and again we have to repeat to you sub educational morons, the illegal militia that landed THREE months before they were asked to leave by LETTER not by guns, , ten of them to be tried for mutiny and shot by firing squad in BUENOS AIRES, charged by a United Provinces court.
Most of the civilians that you would incorrectly label Argentines, (they were from the UNITED PROVINCES of the River Plate), were asked to stay on the Falklands and 15 South Americans (4 =Uruguayan Indians)out of the 22 civilians of mixed nationality did stay, with the blessing of the British.
If you read Pinedo's letters you will find that is fact-that is if you can actually read sonny.
“The reign of terror ended”
Are you referring to the Argentine military junta that killed 30,000 Argentines in the 1970s and 1980s?
Poor ARGENTINA jumped the gun again,
Mar 30th, 2016 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0when its law, or they pass a resolution come and show us,
its British and Argentina has lost AGAIN
15 claudio_laplata
Mar 30th, 2016 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before you make any pronouncements on “the laws of nations” it might be better if you have at least a modicum of knowledge of the subject. Since the US position is abundantly clear. Moreover, China and Russia have been in clear violation of international law with the invasions and subjugation of Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Tibet. As the UK position has always been one of complete compliance with international law.
'As late as 1886 the Secretary of State found it necessary to inform the Argentine Government that as “the resumption of actual occupation of the Falkland Islands by Great Britain in 1833 took place under a claim of title which had been previously asserted and maintained by that Government, it is not seen that the Monroe Doctrine, which has been invoked on the part of the Argentine Republic, has any application to the case. By the terms in which that principle of international conduct was announced, it was expressly excluded from retroactive operation.”
P.60 Sovereignty and the Falkland Islands Crisis D.W. Greig
19 pgerman
“so black slaves were not needed at all” The solution was: ”Tellingly, Sarmiento wrote in his diary in 1848: “In the United States… 4 million are black, and within 20 years will be 8 [million]…. What is [to be] done with such blacks, hated by the white race?“ www.ibtimes.com/blackout-how-argentina-eliminated-africans-its-history-conscience-1289381
”As a result, in some places in the interior of the country, Africans and people of African descent made up more than fifty percent of the population in these areas according to Jonathan C. Brown. According the George Reid Andrews in his book The Afro-Argentines of Buenos Aires, 1800-1900, Buenos Aires’s population itself was a third black at the time of the revolution.” www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/27tauo/what_happened_to_the_black
You cannot explain anything to these poor brainwashed,
Mar 30th, 2016 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they know not what they think..
38 Terry
Mar 30th, 2016 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am 'surprised' that Pgerman missed the stats on Black population and slavery in Argentina.
I provided 2 links, one of which you just quoted, and he ignored them.
Perhaps it was a complete surprise to him that there was a 30% black population in BA.
“ we had very few slaves and we treated them kindly” - yeah, sure pgerman - I wonder how they felt about that?
Straight from the horse's mouth;
Mar 30th, 2016 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://es.mercopress.com/2016/03/30/ban-ki-moon-la-comision-de-limites-de-plataforma-no-considera-ni-califica-partes-sujetas-a-disputa
When the British warships arrived in December 1982 and January 1833 they politely asked Pinedo to leave. He hesitated thinking to fight but on discovering that 80% of his men were British who refused to fight against their countrymen he backed down. When he left he was politely presented with the UPRP flag and was informed that any non-military settlers were welcome to stay which the vast majority of them did. Pinedo recorded this fact in his log and can also be seen in Pinedo’s report made aboard the schooner Sarandí on 16 January 1833 after returning to Buenos Aires, AGN Sala VII, legajo 60, p. 22: “los habitantes que quisiesen voluntariamente quedar, que serian respetados ellos y sus propriedades como anteriormente…”.
Mar 30th, 2016 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0English forum
Mar 30th, 2016 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whoops bit of a typo in my 42 - should say 1832 not 1982.
Mar 30th, 2016 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was meant in rebuttal of @31 Claudio
Yes Troy I'm well aware that it's an English forum but as Claudio's English isn't so good I thought I'd quote the original Spanish (all of two lines) so that he could understand - sorry if you found it unacceptable.
Kind regards.
@42, Yes no one is contesting it but the area that has been ruled on by the CLCS is highlighted in red here on the map below & not the Falklands Islands EEC as claimed by your government nor does it place the Islands in Argentine waters or infringe on the Islanders territory in any way.
Mar 30th, 2016 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cex6df8WIAAfgIj.jpg
They measured it from an unpopulated island, and not the mainland.
Mar 30th, 2016 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so it does not count.
@44 darragh
Mar 30th, 2016 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not a problem - Not directed at you. :-)
It was for “Roisen”
As the post did not elaborate, and I did not know which slant he was taking, pro or con, I was wanting to see something in English.
@47 Troy
Mar 30th, 2016 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, I thought you meant me, my mistake.
By the way Róisín Dubh means 'little black rose' in Gaelic so presumably 'he' is a 'she'. Mind you it's also the name of a song from the time of the Spanish occupation of Kinsale (about 1600 if memory serves me)
kind regards
48 darragh
Mar 31st, 2016 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for the background info.
We have many agent provocateurs on here with deceptive nom de plumes and I don't recall encountering Roisin, before.
Curious as to where he/she was coming from.
Cheers,
TT
The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Mar 31st, 2016 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@50 Hepatia,
Mar 31st, 2016 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever, yawnnnnnnnn!
@50
Mar 31st, 2016 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I ever have trouble sleeping, I will read your robotic posts, and thus a pleasant nights sleep will ensue. Your robotic posts are like you, lacking any truth, any imagination, robotic and void.
But thanks for the cure for insomnia.
@50 Hippy
Mar 31st, 2016 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last year it was 25 years ; this year it's still 25 years; it'll always be 25 years, or, NEVER !
Hepatia
Mar 31st, 2016 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to prove you love the brits,
write the following every other blog for the next 25 years,
[ The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years ]
The funniest thing about the comments section is the smug englishmen and women talking arrogantly from a supposedly high moral ground, after all the massacres your old empire made, and still makes at middle east, spreading false data about negroes, slavery, and aboriginals...
Apr 01st, 2016 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on, smug people, your empire was the world leader at slave smuggling, loan cheating (you even stole all our gold reserves), and opium smuggling... And those are the least of your morally debasing historic facts.
So please, sush with the ridicule judging...
@55 Lukedig
Apr 01st, 2016 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834):
In 1478, the Spanish Inquisition was established with the papal approval of Pope Sixtus IV. The reform and extension of the ancient tribunal which had existed from the thirteenth century was mainly to discover and eliminate Jews and Muslims secretly taking up their beliefs in private.
The conduct of this holy office greatly weakened the power and diminished the population of Spain. It was considered the most deadliest and notorious of all Inquisitions, as firstly being, it was the most highly organized and secondly, it was far more exposed and open with the death penalty than that of the papal Inquisition. “
1832 :
UPS ”Governor“ of the Falklands, murdered by his own garrison, and his wife raped in front of their children.
Garrison arrested by UPS authorities as criminals.
All settlers including Gaucho Rivero, stay on islands except for five.
1833:
Rivero murders several settlers.
1833:
Britain abolishes slavery in all her possessions.
1850:
Spain signs treaty with Britain ” no outstanding disputes“ in South Atlantic.
1853:
Argentina bans slavery. 30% of BA population is Black.
Triple Alliance War:
Paraguay is ganged up on and subjugated by neighbours.
Many Arg Blacks used as ”cannon fodder”.
1880's:
War of the Desert - Argentine genocidal war on the Indians of Patagonia, to steal their land for settlers.
WWI :
Argentina offers safe harbour for GERMAN Navy to attack Allied shipping.
1940's:
Fascist Peron admires Mussolini, Franco, and Hitler. Declares Falklands to be Argentine.
WWII:
Argentina profits from selling food to both sides.
Argentina hides fleeing Nazi's in exchange for confiscated Jewish gold.
1950's:
The Perons rape Argentina
1970's:
Perons rape Argentina.
Junta genocide against Indians.
1982:
Millions of Argentines cheer Junta as Argentine military invade a peaceful island of civilians, and imprison women and children.
Argentina disobeys UN.
Arg. Loses war - pouts for 30 years.
Future:-
Apr 01st, 2016 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's economy nose-dives, peso drops to 5000=US$,
China calls in its loans, sells Argentina to the highest bidders.
Paraguay gets its stolen(by Argentina)land back.
Uruguay, Chile & Falklands divide up what China couldn't sell.
No more whining malvinistas left as China inducted them into its army to use as cannon fodder with its war with just about everyone in the South China Sea dispute.
Think still sitting in his windy Scottish hut drinking cheap whisky.
Oblivion.
@57 Isolde
Apr 01st, 2016 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bravo!! :-D
55 LukeDig
Apr 01st, 2016 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0after all the massacres your old empire made,
well, you never had an empire, and look at the slaughter you lot have committed.
pot-kettle-black.
Well Troy Tempest, we have a problem here, if I start the history lesson about english slavery, crimes against humanity and insane debauchery we might need volumes, probably a library. And we got 2000 characters limit here.
Apr 01st, 2016 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your little history lesson is just funny. Not enlightening, funny. Best part about english people is that they dont have the least historic remorse for their crimes, you are just proud of all you did.
Well, jolly you. We just laugh at you.
60. Who's we?
Apr 01st, 2016 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty much every Latin I've ever met would give up a limb to get out of the sh*thole they come from and live in the USA or UK.
@60 Lukedig
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's your point?
Britain has done bad things in the past, therefore it's ok for Argentina to commit crimes??
Sorry, I don't get it.
61 We are the latin american people who has read some books or studied in life, something hard to come by, even in England.
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the latins you met were born in poverty, or are too retarded to make a living in their own country, after all, living un USA or UK means having half the working rights and benefits than in latin america. I even know that taking vacations in USA means getting fired, really, such a paradise... I would cut off a limb to stay at my country and not emigrating to become a demi-slave in one of the 2 most racist nations in the western hemisphere.
62 Usually brits tend to justify that Argentina has no argument to get their continuated territory (according to the legal intermediations your country made in the past between Argentina and Chile, every country has right to have a “continuated territory”, I guess the brits own the entire Atlantic Ocean to claim the Malvinas) because they are a “colonialist country” (Brits calling someone colonialist, that one always gets me, I usually spit my beverage when I read it) and a “racist country” that “exterminated negroes and aboriginals”... Again, ironic considering british history of violent submission and genocides around the world... Not to mention military bases, economic warfare...
Remember your old empire invaded TWICE Buenos Aires? And you got very well routed. Remember your “Foreign Office” has a very well documented history of threatening and using as puppets different argentine governments, through economic bullying... You even stole all of our gold reserves, Argentina deposited the gold in a british bank, and the brits said that the deposit accrued interests, so now, the gold was british and Argentina owed them money.
If we start talking about history to justify positions... you get yourself in the muddy waters pal.
You are the Latin American people who can't pay your bills.
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“every country has right to have a “continuated territory”, ”
PMSL - that isn't even logical.
You sound very happy in 'your' world.
Suggest you stay there.
Well, if its not logical, then explain me why the british empire used it as an excuse to grant Chile territory over and over again by intermediating in disputes with Argentina and invoking that principle.
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As english, you should know, it was your country the one that invented that concept in international dispute solving.
Of course we cant pay our bills, our country has been utterly indebted since your majesty stole all our gold reserves. I guess most of my fellow latin americans sometimes are too trusting, and forget what kind of people are the english.
As I always said, if my fellow latins grabbed a couple of books, they would understand easily how futile it is to try peace with the english. When dealing with an english you should have your back to the wall, and hands in your wallet, and read the fine print not twice, thrice.
65. Just reading the contract and abiding by the terms is all we ask.
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argys are incaplable of doing that
That's what keeps you poor and dumb
Please tell us how The Falklands could ever be considered part of your continued territory and Cuba is not part of the USA?
Once figure that out maybe your brainwashing will fade.
@ 43, @ 47, @49 Troy Tempest
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t consult or post in this forum frequently so have only just seen the exchange of postings generated by mine @ 41.
Firstly, common courtesy would seem to dictate that any comment or query arising from my posting should have been directed to me. This you have failed to do, even after realising your mistake as acknowledged @ 47.
Secondly, I am fully aware that this is an English forum and that Mercopress stipulates that comments “must be in English”. Mercopress also defines comments as “the personal view of our users”. Mercopress however omits to specify if the language limitation extends to “links” and the Spanish attachment to my posting were not any user’s personal commentse, but a link to a statement made by an authoritative body, the Office of the UN Secretary General. I, too, would have preferred to find something similar in English, but had failed to do so and the link being particularly relevant to the thread, I thought it worthwhile referring to nevertheless. In fact, under a different thread (“UN announcement has no implications on sovereignty over the Falklands”), another poster HansNiesund @ 78 has referred to the same link – and nobody has objected to or criticised him for it.
Perhaps this type of posting censoring should be left more appropriately to the MercoPress moderator and any language limitations with regard to links specified.
Thirdly, is it not ironic that after insisting on the “English forum” , you use two French expressions – which have English equivalents - in your posting @ 49? And you use them incorrectly: the plural form of “agent provocateur” is “agents provocateurs” and that of “nom de plume” is “noms de plumes”, and not what you have written.
Fourthly, to whom are you referring when you say “We have many agent (sic) provocateurs on here with deceptive nom (sic) de plumes…….” This is a serious accusation since an “agent provocateur” is a person who commits, or who encourages someone e
@67 Roisin Dubh,
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a sensitive, delicate little creature you are.
Pray continue……
(67) Yes..., pray continue.... even if you are a little rose tryng to reason with a big turnip...
Apr 02nd, 2016 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@67 Roisen
Apr 03rd, 2016 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am sorry if you are offended.
I explained my reasons.
What was the meaning of the content of your Spanish language link - or was it meant to be only for Spanish speaking individuals?
As to the rest, take it up with the moderators if you feel it is inappropriate.
66 Lucifer oh we abyde contracts to the letter, however, when there is a patent abuse in the middle, justice must be made.
Apr 03rd, 2016 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Contracts also have loopholes, to be exploited when the other part is particularly stronger than you.
This reminds me of another thing, Argentina won 2 wars against Brazil, and england threatened to bully us economically if we didn´t pay to the brazilians as if we had lost the war and not beaten their asses off.
Also, england bullied us to create Uruguay instead of letting its people join our country, so that Brazil could bully itself into the uruguayan north territory.
That are some of the reasons why english will never be loved nor respected by any culture or power from before and hereafter.
@71 LukeDig,
Apr 03rd, 2016 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares?
lf Argentina was so great, the Uruguayans would be asking to join your country.
That they don't, speaks volumes.
We couldn't care less about your “respect”.
Just back off & stop telling lies about the Falklands.
ln fact just go away, we're sick of the sight & sound of you.
ln fact just go away, we're sick of the sight & sound of you
Apr 03rd, 2016 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hear hear
Well, it´s easy, you have no right to islands half planet away from your nation, no matter how much or long you shag above them.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pack your baggage, burn your corsair permits to ransack the seas of squid & other fish that you give away like candy to anyone who will pay, and we´ll be on good terms laddies. We will forgive you for invading us twice, stealing our gold reserves, promoting insurgency and bullying us to no end. Heck, we might even forget you bullied us not to develop industry and attack Paraguay. Because we are such a nice people when someone shows a dint of goodwill.
And please, don´t disrespect our Uruguayan brothers and sisters implying they would join us if we prosper, they love their country be it in good or bad times, and their people is proud of their history, traditions and values, which are no doubt far more humane than those of the english culture, a culture of egoism, military interventionism, a warlike nation, with no respect for humane rights or its own people.
They prefer military toys than welfare for the poor. Shame, shame.
There you go again, LukeDig.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are such a liar & an Anglophobe.
We have every right to be here & you have none.
Why don't you pack your bags & go back to Spain or ltaly, or where ever you came from?
Yes, you ought to be ashamed for your actions & your attitude.
But that just Argentine, l suppose.
I want to go back to Spain, to organize a reconquista of Gibraltar, preferently using napalm.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you want, and what you gat, are two different things
Apr 04th, 2016 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as for distances, one should look at the distance between Alaska and the Hawaiian islands,
or the
Hawaiian islands for the American capital,
one end of Russia from the other.
distance is irrelevant,
the people want to be British, full stop
@76 LukeDig,
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try it, we dare you.
lt will backfire on you.
Does anyone know if the Falklands government has received clarification from the UK yet?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't think so.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, clarification just came, it says “Sorry chaps, we spent all the dough on snuff for Cameron, we gots no more for yer gunboats. We´ll send some northern irishmen with a kite, that should scare the argies off”.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0lt would scare them off, l'm sure.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0RG Army 'opped quick & lively when they heard that the Gurkhas were coming.
LOL
Apr 05th, 2016 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The truth is that the Argentine army shit hot bricks when they hear the word Ghurkas.
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