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Argentine Army reiterates its commitment to the Malvinas cause on invasion anniversary
Argentina’s Army Chief Diego Luis Suner said on Saturday that the “Malvinas cause” continues to be a “national, standing and inalienable objective” of the Argentine people. The statement was made on the 34th anniversary of the South Atlantic conflict that was triggered by the Argentine military invasion of the Falklands in 1982. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMalvinism in Argentina is a religion and as with all religions, it rejects facts in favour of myth, of mantra, of dogma. There are probably more Malvinists in Argentina than there are Christians. Malvinism has some similarities to Islam, in that it rejects all other notions and is prepared to use force to impose its beliefs on others.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Back in the real world, the question of the Falklands was long since answered. The matter is settled.
:-)
Hey Mr Suner......14th June 1982, I bet that is a very forgettable date in the glorious history of your homeland.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0These Argentine aspirations are pathetic and useless and one wonders whether the entire nation is in full possession of its senses!
Apr 04th, 2016 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Next time the Argies whinge about us Militarizing the Falkland islands.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0We will just have to remind them, the military forces are there at the request of the People of the Falkland Islands to protect them from Argy expansionist ambitions.
The Argentine army chief is sounding rather belligerent. Rather different from the peaceful notion of “talks” that they continually espouse.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinean mythical Malvinas claim is d e a d.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Time to laugh: https://www.academia.edu/17799157/Falklands_-_Some_Relevant_International_Law
@6
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Same old,same old same old, they just do not get it do they. THE FALKLANDS REMAIN A BOT UNTIL THE FALKLANDERS DECIDE OTHERWISE, Hello Argentina can you hear me?
“Malvinas cause” continues to be a “national, standing and inalienable objective” of the Argentine people. ” and “April 2, 1982 is an unforgettable date in the glorious history of the homeland,” said Suner, calling it the “anniversary of the recovery” of the Islands.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Coming from the Argentine army that's a bit rich! It's stating the bleeding obvious but the Argentine army did not ‘recover’ the Islands. They invaded the Island, swore that they would defend the Islands to the last bullet and last man, but then surrendered.
April the 2, 1982 is dangerously close to April 1, 1982 which is April fool’s day and very appropriate in the context of the Argentine invasion.
They love using vague, pompous sounding words, when they talk about “national, standing and inalienable objective.” What does that mean? Given the history of Argentina’s aggression towards the Falklands, we can get the gist, but why don’t they get honest and state clearly and unambiguously what they mean?
Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Yet another old has been facist bastard who celebrates and honours the day their nation started a bloody war against a peacefull people that they then promptly lost.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jesus you Argies - clamber out of the middle ages a bit please!
Tbf its the only time the Argentine army has fought people who could fight back.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Natives armed with moss and rocks nuns teenage girls are quite a stiff challenge
Argentine Army-pffft!
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a shower of swelled headed poseurs.
Look out, RGs, the Gurkhas are coming.
Fooled ya, ha ha.
You can get out from under your beds now.
“April 2, 1982 is an unforgettable date in the glorious history of the homeland,”
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0What 'glorious history' would that be? What has Argentina ever done that is 'glorious'
What jumped up arrogance. The sort of comment you would expect from a comic-opera villain but then I guess that is exactly what he is.
Let me consider what these argie idiot need to do to stand even a minimal chance of taking the islands:
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 01) enlarge the army to four times what it is now (
Falklands Desire the Right
Apr 04th, 2016 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the day Argentine celebrates the invasion of the Falkland Islands, by a fascist military dictatorship which had murdered tens of thousands of their own youth, and violated international law in invading the sovereign territory of another nation state,. attempted to place British citizens under their jurisdiction and power against their will, imprisoning and interning all those who resisted or were deemed a threat...
This is nothing to celebrate it should be condemned in the eyes of world opinion! Only backward nations with warped ideologies celebrate invasions carried out by fascist regimes.
Nicky? Your name is familiar LOL
Apr 04th, 2016 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(9) Islander1
Apr 04th, 2016 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
Yet another old has been facist bastard who celebrates and honours the day their nation started a bloody war against a peacefull people that they then promptly lost.
Jesus you Argies - clamber out of the middle ages a bit please!
I say...:
What this or any other member of the Argentinean or British Armed Farces say is, luckily, quite irrelevant...
Fact is that April 2 is officially ”Malvinas War Veterans and Fallen Day.” and as such it is hold in Argentina...
Not too different from your Remembrance Sunday....
Jesus you Kelpers - clamber out of the siege mentality and brainwash a bit please!
#16
Apr 04th, 2016 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is that you celebrate the start of a war, we celebrate the finish of a war.
@16
Apr 04th, 2016 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think we'd consider an undeclared Pearl Harbor style sneak attack “glorious” either.
The so-called malvinazi cause is the essential reason for strengthening every year
Apr 04th, 2016 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the military defenses of the free Falkland Islands.
Philippe
Think
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Brits Remembrance Day is nothing like your 'Malvinas War Veterans and Fallen Day' as the Brits commemorate ALL those who have died in ALL wars not just one that takes their fancy.
As far as I'm aware your MWVF Day only commemorates Argentines who died in the Falklands War and sod off to the thousands of Argentines who died at the hands of other Argentines.
The British Commander of the Gurkhas said “ draw your Kukris and the Argies said ” give up and run ” and so they did. The gurkhas were very displeased that they did not engage the enemy ( Argies )
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Think
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How dare you compare Remembrance Day, celebrated throughout the Commonwealth, with the Argentine “Día del Veterano de Guerra y de los Caídos en la Guerra de las Malvinas”!
These two events are totally unalike and the latter is only an excuse to commemorate an event which was condemned worldwide as totally illegal and during the course of which Argentina abjectly failed to withdraw its troops from the Falklands archipelago when ordered to do so by the United Nations Security Council.
Nothing was more pleasing to me was the abject surrender of the Argentine Army and its withdrawal “con los rabos entre las piernas”!
(17) Lowlander Clyde15
Apr 04th, 2016 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Neither the UK nor Argentina “CELEBRATE” anything om these dates...
Both “REMEMBER” the members of their armed forces who have died in the line of duty....
Anglo Turnip at (20)
Get it right...
Remembrance day..........: Fallen on WWI
Remembrance Sunday...: Fallen on WWI, WWII and subsequent conflicts...
“Celebrate Invasion Day” is not quite the same thing as “Remembrance Day”
Apr 04th, 2016 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He knows it
and so do all the Argys
Otherwise they should be celebrating “Surrender Day” Or “War of Shame Day”
Maybe when england becomes Englandstan, since we are in good terms with muslim people (because we don´t go around the world murdering and bombing blindly) we might get them back for free.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder how long it will take for england to become fully muslim, a couple of centuries I guess at much.
Poor Luke your education is embarrassing.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23
Apr 04th, 2016 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“April 2, 1982 is an unforgettable date in the glorious history of the homeland,”
That's not a celebration?
Once again for Turnip at (27)
Apr 04th, 2016 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I say...:
What this or any other member of the Argentinean or British Armed Farces say is, luckily, quite irrelevant...
Fact is that April 2 is officially ”Malvinas War Veterans and Fallen Day.” and as such it is hold in Argentina...
Not too different from your Remembrance Sunday....”
http://en.mercopress.com/2016/04/04/argentine-army-reiterates-its-commitment-to-the-malvinas-cause-on-invasion-anniversary#comment436230
“Fact is that April 2 is officially ”Malvinas War Veterans and Fallen Day.” and as such it is hold in Argentina...”
Apr 04th, 2016 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, yes, it is different to Remembrance Sunday. Remembrance Sunday - which is celebrated worldwide - marks the end of a war. Malvinas War Veterans and Fallen Day marks an invasion by the Argrntine army and the beginning of a war.
Argentina’s Army Chief Diego Luis Suner ,
Apr 04th, 2016 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And still your military are brainwashed fools.
I think the Marigold from Chubut is wilting.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well he is such a delicate little flower.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(31) redp0ll
Apr 04th, 2016 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No marigolds around here, amigo...
Just resilent Patagonian fauna and flora...
Todo bien en Uruguay, espero
Saludos
El Think...
No petunias or turnips either in Chubut? Try a woolly Bugger and you might get a rise or two. Saude, oh Think
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(33) Think, I thought you always wear Marigolds when doing the washing up at the Combined Services? You are wilting just lately under the deluge of truths that you cant deny and cannot counter in a court of law.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Admit it, you are all washed up! Bahahahaha.. Turnip!
I think he is a plant geneticist. Secretly he is trying to develope a clone of a Skandahovian mangleurzel to be implanted on the Falkland Islands. No success so far, but we have to give full marks for attempting a hopeless task.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(34) redp0ll
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope, no petunias down here... Quite a few red wild poppies though....
I wonder...
You do often surface on these “military” articles...
Is that a regimental tie one can spot on your public pictures?
Yes it is. I did my military service. Did you or you bought yourself out?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uhhhhh.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No need to get agressive guv... I mean sarge... ;-)
What's aggressive about asking whether you did your mili Think? I would think it would be your patriotic duty to do so and be proud even if as an objector you opted for the ambulance sevice.
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arjuntina's Army is all washed up. All they can send to the Islands these days is runners (a sport in which they excel especially when urged on by the Gurkhas) or swimmers - where did those swimmers get to? They seem to have disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle just like Paulcedrons Beechcraft Bonanza?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you enlighten us Think? Did you see service or did you cower in the cookhouse?
What's “agressive” about a milico asking me if I “bought meself out” from servir a la Pátria?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you pulling me leg?
You oh Think @ 39 said I was being aggressive and I asked you a simple question. What's the matter with that?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Think
Apr 04th, 2016 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think you really are quite stupid, unable to refute what I said you try to demean it in your usual small-minded way.
The fact that the first Remembrance Day in the UK occurred as a result of the slaughter of the First World War does not mean that today it is only about that particular war or World War Two or any other particular war. If you bothered to even watch part of the ceremony at the Cenotaph you would know that.
I do notice that you don't mention the thousands of Argentines killed by other Argentines so presumably you don't care about them.
I repeat so that you can inwardly digest:-
The Brits Remembrance Day is nothing like your 'Malvinas War Veterans and Fallen Day' as the Brits commemorate ALL those who have died in ALL wars not just one that takes their fancy.
As far as I'm aware your MWVF Day only commemorates Argentines who died in the Falklands War and sod off to the thousands of Argentines who died at the hands of other Argentines.
By the way you know full well that I'm not an Anglo
Thinks away to his usual task- topping turnips from his keyboard?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I repeat for the benefit of the Anglo Turnip with an Irish name at (44)
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remembrance day...: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
And
Remembrance Sunday.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
Are two SIMILAR but still DIVERSE ceremonies...
@33 “ No marigolds around here, amigo...
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just resilent Patagonian fauna and flora...”
Actually there are a lot of marigolds (caléndula) in Chubut. Have been for many years. The seeds are even given out “free” by government programmes. They grow in pcia Sta Cruz as well.
Argentina’s Army Chief Diego Luis Suner
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nothing on Wikipedia.
Think- WQHy did Arg in 2000 whatever adopt Apeil 2nd as theiur fallen day nthen?
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A wee bit slanted was it not?
Europe and the Commonwealth took Nov 11th as it marked the END of a massive slaughter - not the start of wars.
As I suggested - May 25th surely a lot more historically significant? -or say the day the tripartite war ended instead? Or as part of Independence commemorations - like Chile does?
April 2nd - chosen by the Kirscheners is purely political.
Prize turnip at (48)
Apr 04th, 2016 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Suñer
(49) Islander1
You can like them or not...... but ALL choices are political...
@47
Apr 05th, 2016 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think is caught out... LOL!
The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0There will be no more Argentina in 25 years, Hepathetic. It will be part of Paraguay.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our mighty army will surprise the kelpers again while they sleep, they won´t even know the argentines have invaded, because in the next invasion, they will carry no uniforms.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, they will all have false documents and migrate to Malvinas very gradually, seducing all the women, until all the children or most of them are sons of righteous latin blood. Then, our plan will be revealed and you´ll know we won just using our dongs, and our flying good looks.
@54 LukeDig
Apr 05th, 2016 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes you tried the 'surprise' them while they sleep method last time. It still ended up with your 'brave' troops running away and surrendering.
Also, if they don't wear uniforms then the British have every right under the Laws of Armed Conflict to shoot every single one of them as spies. All of them. For there is no excuse for military personnel not to wear uniform. So they would have no defence and they would all be put up against any convenient wall and shot.
I'm just interested, LukeDig. Just how to you intend to get your 'mighty' (snigger) army to the Falklands? Teach them all how to walk on water?
Because there are only 2 ways to get to the Falklands. One is by sea. Well you haven't got any vessels that are sea worthy enough or large enough to bring sufficient troops to make a difference. Plus they'd either be destroyed by our aircraft, patrol vessel or one of our submarines.
The other is by air. Any unauthorised aircraft would be intercepted long before it got anywhere near the Falklands. If it refused to turn away then the UK has every right to shoot it down. But let's suppose we decide to be generous and let the plane land, your 'brave' troops would find themselves surround on all sides by heavily armed personnel.
But lets suppose that your 'cleverly' disguised army somehow manages to gain a foothold on the Falklands. Last time the 70 Royal Marines kept the creme de la creme of the Argentine special forces at bay for hours despite being outnumbered 10-1. So for over a thousand heavily armed, well trained and battle experienced troops, keeping your 'disguised' lightly armed army at bay for 24 hours. The time it would take for reinforcements to arrive from the UK.
And whilst this is going on the UK would be raining down destruction upon Argentina itself.
So not very likely, is it?
l think that LukeDig is about 16yo & having uncontrollable sexual fantasies.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0You would run for your life, Lukeyboy, if a real woman grabbed ahold of you.
As always, grow up.
lorotontito: WE ARE 43 MILLIONS MALVINIST SUPPORTED BY CONSTITUTION.ANYWAYS POST YOUR EVIDENCE OF NO UPJ BEOFRE 1848,JAAAA.ISOLDE:STILL HE CHIPPY PROSTI COCK SUCKER.....LUKE DICK:JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.MARTIN LLAZO: DEJA DE HABLAR BLUDECES FORRASO, TIRAS MIERDA Y TODAVIA VVIS EN ARGENTINA CARETA DE MIERDA, YA TE DIJE TIRA UNA DIREECCION ASI VISITO A TU MADRE A Y VOS SARNOSO HIJO DE PUTADARRAHG: YOU ARE A COCK SUCKER THEN IF YOU BRITS WORRY BOUT TASMANIANS AND NOTH AMERICANS AND ABORIGENS FORM AUSTRLAIA KILLED BY DIRTY PIRATES. NICKY CAVIGLIA: WHAT YOUR REAL ACCOUNT ?? FAKE TROLL COMBACK TO MALVINAS/FLAKAND PAGE MOTHER FUCKER.......
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0@57 georgeneurus
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 01. Are you not aware that to post in capital letters in the height of ignorance?
2. Mercopress conditions copied from above ”rude or foul language, discriminative comments (based on ethnicity, religion, gender, nationality, sexual orientation or the sort), spamming or any other offensive or inappropriate behaviour will not be tolerated”
3. So please go away and play your silly games elsewhere - ¡nadie le esta haciendo caso!
TWIMC
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nope... No any invasive marigolds around HERE..., amigos....
Nor any invasive lupines...
Nor any invasive dog roses...
Not even any invasive poison hemlock...
Just resilent Patagonian fauna and flora, as I mentioned before...
One of the advantages of building ones shed on a previously uninhabited spot..., I reckon...
Started a war and lost, rewrite history to make it a glorious victory.... how about you lost, get over it. Using your take on history all the borders in South America need to redrawn, Bolivia gets some coastline, Peru get a chunk of Chile, Bolivia gets a chunk of Brazil, Brazil gets a chunk of Uruguay, on and on..
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@54
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Our mighty army”
What mighty army?
Even when the Argentine military was at its peak in 1982, it only invaded the Falklands because it knew there was little opposition, and a few Royal Marines gave the Argentine special forces a battle at Government house they will never forget-yet despite the Malvinas Myth in your minds that overrides anything in Argentina, you surrendered to The Brits who had fewer troops.
“No, they will all have false documents and migrate to Malvinas very gradually, ”
And you think with the Falklands being a small community that takes note of everything that happens and knows everyone, that anyone emigrating to the Islands will be ignored as if they were ghosts?
The Falkland Islands are not a steaming metropolis of several million people where any newcomers go unnoticed and can disappear-any newcomer sticks out like a daglo jacket.
@57 georganus
“ AND ABORIGENS FORM AUSTRLAIA KILLED BY DIRTY PIRATES. ”
This does not excuse your country murdering your Amerindians-proof that Argentina copy the worse excesses of the British Empire, and seek to be imperialist to this day, while Britain has given up it's Empire long ago. If you do not approve of the actions during the British Empire, why does Argentina seek to copy them?
@37
“... Quite a few red wild poppies though....”
What else-no hardy shrubs or ground hugging plants?
“Suner said the Falkland Islands are “not just a feeling, it is an inseparable part of Argentina, currently and a challenge for the future.”
Yet, despite meaning so much, Argentina with more soldiers than the Brits had on the Islands, surrendered.
The Islands mean jacksquit to Argentina, it's too cold a climate for most Argentines, and they didn't really want to be there that's why they surrendered.
”The Falklands have been under British administration since 1833 ”
And claimed since 1690/1765 lest we forget.
Oh, the Argentine Army are going to invade? Best of luck to them, it's a long walk and a very difficult drive.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine editorial assessing the decay and lack of capability of the Argentine armed forces. Among other things: Argentina lacks so much as the transport capability for sending troops to the Falklands
Apr 05th, 2016 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Written in jibber-jabber
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1778891-la-argentina-enfrenta-limitaciones-hasta-para-transportar-efectivos-al-archipielago
C'mon guys;
Apr 05th, 2016 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One dickhead Arg. puppet poster posts just one very stupid antagonistic post and he gets countless replies and sucks up all sorts of energy.
He has succeeded in his goal of insulting us and wasting our time.
If you must respond, just quickly dismiss him, nothing more.
As to George's Anus, certainly his vulgar post of personal attacks is a reason to ban him.
I don't understand why MP allows that behaviour to go unchecked.
57 georgeneurus “POST YOUR EVIDENCE OF NO UPJ BEOFRE 1848”
Apr 05th, 2016 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is the evidence that refutes your verbal diarrhea, was at best not applied until 1848 in “Determining Boundaries in a Conflicted World:
The Role of Uti Possidetis By Suzanne Lalonde
2.4.1 Absence of Uti Possidetis in Constitutions and Treaties
...Although it is often stated that the uti possidetis principal was proclaimed by the newly independent republics, in fact very few constitutions actually used the expression uti possidetis.31 Of forty-three constitutions examined from the period 1811 to 1850. only one mentioned the uti possidetis principle. Article 7 of the Political Constitution of the Republic of Costa Rica provided: ”The limits of the territory of the Republic are those of the uti possidetis of 1826.32 Of forty constitutions consulted from the period 1850 to 1901, only one mentioned the uti possidetis principle: ...Therefore, out of a total of eighty-three constitutions spanning a century, only Costa Rica used the uti possidetis principle and only to define part of its national territory.
...no reference to the uti possidetis principle was found in any of the fifty treaties examined between the Spanish republics in the period from 1811 to 1850. Of these fifty treaties, ...not one referred to the principle of uti possidetis. ..It has also been stated that the uti possidetis of 1810 was proclaimed by the Congress at Lima in 1848,49 but the statement appears not to be altogether accurate.”
Suzanne Lalonde is a professor of international law at the Law Faculty of the University of Montreal and a researcher associated with the ArcticNet network in Canada and the Geopolitics in the High North programme in Norway. She holds a PhD in public international law from the University of Cambridge, King's College (1997).
http://www.ecologic.eu/sites/files/event/2013/Suzanne_Lalonde_EN.pdf
Argentina will be removed from Antarctica and UK administration will be restored within the next 25 years.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 050-
Apr 05th, 2016 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that's no good, it might as well be in Japanese.
@57 george anus,
Apr 05th, 2016 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shut up george.
You are an oxygen thief.
@61 “The Islands mean jacksquit to Argentina, it's too cold a climate for most Argentines, and they didn't really want to be there that's why they surrendered.”
Apr 05th, 2016 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or maybe the argentos, with their 4-to-1 defenders advantage, were up against a better military, which despite its smaller numbers and lack of materiél was characterised by better leadership, better training, better morale, better conditioning, better discipline, and better skills.
Argentina will implode within the next 5 years.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People, I was just making a joke, and you set all out to give me a lesson about military crap.
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let´s make this easy, if Argentina gets some good blueprints, and starts producing naval bombers, the military costs of defending the kelpers skyrocket. By every dollar we spend on military, UK needs to spend tenfold, then, there will come a time where some tory or other, will want money for his snuff, and will want to give us back the islands.
Happy happy english people
71 LukeDig You have a very short memory since I have already answered your previously made assertion. But keep churning out your nonsense and I'll keep shooting it down. It costs Argentina more than the UK in their conflict according to Carlos Escudé. He warned: “If Argentina had power, I would not be doing these proposals,” but reasoned that “pursue policies of power without power is counterproductive” because “leads to losing more than you earn systematically”
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“La reivindicación argentina de Malvinas solo sirve para comprar el voto de ciudadanos poco educados”
http://www.infobae.com/2014/11/10/1607855-la-reivindicacion-argentina-malvinas-solo-sirve-comprar-el-voto-ciudadanos-poco-educados
Falklands War Cost-Benefit Analysis
The price of war
”Although the Falklands War had a very noticeable short-term impact on defence expenditure, the impact was not long-lasting. Notwithstanding the first few years after the conflict, when South Atlantic expenditure was greatly consumed by the construction of RAF Mount Pleasant (operational from 1986), the amount spent wasn't overly significant. In 1986-7, it was only 2.23% of total defence expenditure, and by 1989-90, a mere 0.33%. At their height (1982-3), the war's effects represented only 6.76% of total defence expenditure.
http://www.infobae.com/2014/11/10/1607855-la-reivindicacion-argentina-malvinas-solo-sirve-comprar-el-voto-ciudadanos-poco-educados
People, I was just making a joke
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Happy happy English people
A joke from a fool,
Happy brits, when will you ever learn,
no wonder you lose everything you touch.
@71
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A blueprint!
How about the F-35c? Nice piece of kit,costs about £80 million,you will also need the weapons,technicians,pilots and manufacturing capability.
The UK builds the rear fuselage,lift jet,ejection seat and a few other components.120 on order.
My estimation,starting from a blue print it should take you about 150 years .
Good luck.
Give them time, they are still working on the Bow.lol
Apr 05th, 2016 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now it can be told: Argentina's military-industrial might is epitomised in their aircraft “industry.”
Apr 06th, 2016 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which is another way of saying they can't even build propeller- driven trainers.
Another way of saying they spend US$70 million a year and produce..... zero airplanes. How very Argentine.
Their air force and navy gave up their waiting for the domestic factory (Fábrica Argentina de Aviones) to provide them with some simple, basic, circa-1950-technology trainers. Their national aircraft factory could promise promise talk talk talk, ¿viste? but of course they couldn't, you know, actually produce anything.
So they ordered the trainers from Germany.
But they, the argentos, wanted to pretend that those German trainers were “made in Argentina.” You know how important those little Industria Argentina stickers are. So Germany sent them the major assemblies and some parts and some technicians so that the argentos could put the trainers together and ...pretend.
It is a fantasy country, after all.
And that, my friends, is the state of technology and military might in Argentistan today.
Of course they will also tell you that they are just this close to being a world-class nuclear power and they invented the ball-point pen and sliced bread and variable-rate mortgages and all that but..... they spend US$70 million a year and can't produce a single simple propeller-driven trainer aircraft.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1886175-al-pampa-le-cuesta-volar-se-suspende-el-acto-de-macri-en-la-fabrica-estatal-de-aviones
We have a world class nuclear tech. We could easily have nuclear capabilities. The problem is, we are not savage civilian bombers like you NATO people.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@77
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0On different post you claim you already have this capability PMSL!
“The problem is, we are not savage civilian bombers like you NATO people.”
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Coming at this particular time, the anniversary of Argentina’s brutal invasion of a peaceful neighbour, makes that comment even more odious.
The silence of the 'civilian' victims of Argentina's dirty war, the Falkland Islanders and all the military casualties of your savage and illegal 1982 invasion all give lie to that myopic, hypocritical assertion.
You people will never achieve anything of any worth until you get honest.
l reiterate, l think that LukeDig is about 16yo.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0No more to be taken seriously.
16 maybe,12 more likely!
Apr 06th, 2016 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@69 Marti
Apr 06th, 2016 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Or maybe the argentos, with their 4-to-1 defenders advantage, were up against a better military, which despite its smaller numbers and lack of materiél was characterised by better leadership, better training, better morale, better conditioning, better discipline, and better skills.”
Of course.
However, even before UK's troops got down there, life was not much of a dream for the Argentine forces, they simply did not want to be there after the photocalls of the 'glorious invasion' ceased.
Even General Galteiri had a slight problem with leading his men on the Islands, preferring a distance of 1000 miles to actually doing any fighting, though he did visit the Islands once very bravely before the task force turned up.
If the Islands were really 'in their hearts' they would fought like mad.
It was once in my 'heart' when I was 8 to play football and score the winning goal in a cup final. But the problem was I was not good enough to be a professional footballer, and decided that life was good enough without playing in a cup final.
The difference between my dreams and the Malvinazi dreams is that I saw the difference between realistic aims and fantasy .
@71
“if Argentina gets some good blueprints, and starts producing naval bombers”
A few years ago it was announced that 40 of the new version of the jet trainer, the Pampas (I prefer Pampers), designed in the early 1980s, would be produced.
How many have been built by this year?
And you think you can build a bomber?
80 Isolde - spot on, except that all Argies are actually 16 yo in the head or less. They constantly display their imaturity hete on this forum. Its time they grew up! The only exception is El Stink, he's just a leering dirty old man.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@79 so its odious then? I find odious to know that england killed 10 million Indians, and of course, they do not admit it. Have you ever asked forgiveness for being the number 1 slaver in the world? Or have you at least returned all national treasures to the Chinese, or the Egyptians? No, of course you didn´t.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You didn´t even return the greeks their national treasures. So much for a morally high ground.
@84 It's clear that Lukie is still stuck in the 19th century.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just as so much of Argentina is still stuck in the 19th century.
“The problem is, we are not savage civilian bombers like you NATO people.”
Apr 06th, 2016 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As downunder pointed out, you're making that claim on an article that reports on Argentina's celebrations of a war they started with an invasion.
You can lie and call it a “recovery” all you like, but the truth is that you illegally invaded another nation's sovereign territory, subjugated and abused the legitimate inhabitants, and as reported here, planned to murder any of the inhabitants who dared object to your wrongdoing.
Let's not forget the fact that the *only* binding UN Resolution regarding the Falklands was passed in a982 - requiring Argentina to remove their illegal occupation. Upon their refusal, everything that happened from then on was on their head.
The adherents to the Malvinas Lie are quick to point out that it was the Junta that ordered the invasion, but they're all too happy to continue the lies that the Junta pushed to justify their actions.
@86
Apr 06th, 2016 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Each “new” Troll persona trots out all the old misrepresentations, inventions, and lies.
Bluster. Don't forget bluster. When you have no legitimacy or capability, you rely on bluster.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/658768/Falklands-Islands-dispute-Argentina-bluster-military-threats-British-sovereignty
Again, funny how my comments about english crimes go unanswered. What happened with the “we english are on moral high ground and you are some spaniard aboriginal killers with no right to islands” ?
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THEORY,
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have a world class nuclear tech. We could easily have nuclear capabilities
we have unsinkable ships,
we have special forces, fried rice corps
we have we have we have.
FACTS
You have nothing.
#89 we were massive bstards taking 1/4 of the world during the age of empire.
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0much like the Spanish and the Argentinians.
unfortunately we we so much better at the empire thing than Argentina thats why the falklands.
@89 Luke puppet
Apr 06th, 2016 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Again, funny how my comments about english crimes go unanswered”
Are we obligated to answer for your off-topic claims that the British are immoral?
Perhaps you should go back to RT News, they'll suck that up.
Do you think that accusing the British of being immoral in the past or even today is justification for your actions.
Refusing to pay back the small pension fund investors for your government-issued bonds is not only illegal, it has little to do with the British.
Likewise, invading, harassing, intimidating , and blockading a neighbouring foreign community to seize their land and sovereignty, is not excused by your 'judgement' of another culture.
You are accountable for your own actions that are racist and criminal.
Claiming it is someone else's fault is childish and laughable.
84#
Apr 07th, 2016 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I find odious to know that england killed 10 million Indians, and of course, they do not admit it.”
Care to back that up with some verifiable evidence?
Didn’t thinks so, and then you have the hide to complain that your comments go unanswered. Why would anybody bother to answer a person who serves up a farrago of lies and self-serving fantasies under the guise of ‘comments’?
Have you ever asked forgiveness for being a liar and an oxygen thief?
Its pretty odd that Argentina celebrate the Start of war.... where they sent thousands of troops to subjugate a population of little more than 1000 and about 40 defending troops.
Apr 07th, 2016 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most folks celebrate the END of wars... when the killing stopped, only Argentina could celebrate when the killing STARTED... and call it glorious.
@89
Apr 07th, 2016 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is probable that the British Empire did commit many atrocities, as did the Spanish Empire.
But in the UK it is the impetus needed not to commit atrocities in the future.
But to insist that you have the high morale ground after killing most of the indigenous peoples of Argentina in the 19th century (after the Spanish Empire you crave departed) and just 40 years ago killing 30 000 of your own is stretching it a bit.
You don't seem to understand that the British Empire is long gone, finished, history, yet your country wants to justify its 19th century attitude to the Falkland islanders rights, by insisting because the British Empire were bad in some cases 200 years ago, your country wants to continue with your 19th century mentality and become the New Imperialists' of the 21st century and insist that Argentina should be allowed to be just as bad as the British Empire were 200 years ago.
How are those naval bombers coming on by the way?
I assume you have given up on making those 40 Pampers.
We've moved on.
You are stuck in a 19th century time warp.
Is it just me or are LukeDig's comments remarkably similar in stupidity but without the expletives of a certain Paul Cedron and/or Brassileiro
Apr 07th, 2016 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite a few have been 'disappeared' Darragh. Obviously Nostril (Brasiliero) and Paul Cedron didnt cut the mustard. They come and go. I do miss Conquerer though. Wonder if he had an embolism? Think is still around hissing insults and untruths but the other end of his pantomime horse has gone missing. Lost too many soveriegnty arguments and became an embarrasment so the Argies have retired his identity.
Apr 07th, 2016 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are those blessed swimmers, they got a free ride from the Cardinal?
@96
Apr 07th, 2016 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have been convicted for some time that Pukepig and Brasshole are one and the same.
The the nuclear sub bull was the give away.
Apparently the local trolls have quite a few different names all for the same purpose of piling on the false information and trying to divide the brits,
Apr 07th, 2016 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it never works, and they leave in tatters.
@96 darragh &
Apr 07th, 2016 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 098 MK8 Torpedo,
l've thought the same.
They are also probably Think's creatures or at least share a desk at the RG Department for Lies & Dis-information.
@96/100
Apr 08th, 2016 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure what's happening with the constant Trolling of Lucifer/YB.
However, “Chronic” who tried to represent himself as a USA American from Chicago and other places, is definitely a FAKE who has never been in the USA, ever.
Most likely he is there to discredit the Americans.
martin llazo:: the same propaganda, argies don't want to be there realy cause is too cold, dumb ass and our south is what....sunny?? FUCKING MONKEY, YOU LIVE IN THE SOUTH DUMB IGNORANT, SEND ME AN ADREES TO VISIT YOUUU, APE..
Apr 09th, 2016 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hello Gorgeous George Anus.
Apr 09th, 2016 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please keep the noise down.
Children are sleeping.
Stop being such an ass.
btw- the Falklands are still British & you are a moron.
Its georgeopopotamus’s watch. He always gets the dog watch.
Apr 09th, 2016 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0re nuclear tech
Apr 09th, 2016 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0hows the ice breaker $600 million still not fixed and the UK is building a new one for less than $400 million.
hows the aircraft factory going no mighty pampas taking to the air anytime soon?
@102 george your anus..... we were talking about bluster. La famosa bravuconería argentina. Nothing to do with climate. Please do try to keep up or at least read the words.
Apr 09th, 2016 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But since you did mention the climate thing, we'll remind you that the first permanent settlement in Tierra del Fuego was the handiwork of ...a British family !
@102
Apr 09th, 2016 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you an Argentine version of Father Jack?
Do you live on Islas Craggy?
@54 LukeDig
Apr 10th, 2016 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Your dongs and flying good looks” - You may be onto something here as its always better to make love not war ! Sending your young men may not be the best strategy though as I believe there is currently a shortage of young ladies. You would have to send the prettiest of course to maximise chances of success.
You do realise that your strategy would require treating the Falklanders nicely for a long time, all the insults, embargoes and threats would have to stop.
Naturally any offspring would have dual citizenship to see both sets of grandparents you see where I'm going with this.........
Of course there are risks with any strategy in as much as both sides would get to explain their point of view and evidence. The children may also grow up to be hardworking democrats with a love of freedom and loathing of facism...........
Still couldn't do worse than Galtieri did - give it a go !
LLAZO: COMO ANDAS DEL OCOTE? PREPARALO APARA CUANDO TE VEAMOS, PEDAZO DE RONOS, YA TE DIJE ENVIA UNA DIRECCION CAGON.Y TE RECUERDO LOS PRIMEROS EN LLEGAR FUERON LOS ANLGICANOS ALREDERO DE 1840, LOS DEMAS PASABAN DE LARGO, LOS ANGLICANOS ERAN MANADADOS POR EL REINO UNIDO PARA CONQUISTAR EL SUR ,DE HECHO ELLOS SECUESTRARON VARIOS YAMANAS PARA EDUCARLOS EN INGLATERRA CON EL FIN DE CONVENCER A LAS TRIBUS Y CEDER TERRITORIO, APRENDE BOLUDASO, PAJERO DE ESQUINA, CHE LLAZO DONDE VIVIS??? EN QUE AGUJERO DE NUESTRO SUR?? TE LA DAS DE ANGLO Y SOS UN PEDORRO CRIOLLO , PA PUTA MADRE QUE TE REPARIO....
Apr 11th, 2016 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@109. Georgesanus
Apr 11th, 2016 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Puta madre!
@109 George's anus,
Apr 11th, 2016 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0ldiota, estupido george.
btw, george, the Falklands are still British & you are still a moron.
Love, I.
@109 Salame george-you-anus, los británicos de aquel entonces no fueron mandados para conquistar el sur, como decís en tus boberías, sino para los estudios hidrográficos, y obviamente la Argentistan no fue capaz de realizar tales investigaciones. Vení al Club Británico en Río Gallegos, pues todos saben quién es el martillazo, y te lo explico.
Apr 11th, 2016 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@109 Father Jack
Apr 11th, 2016 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't it be easier for you just to type FECK! DRINK! ARRRSSEE?
@109 georgeneurus
Apr 11th, 2016 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0¿Y los curas que llegaron con los conquistadores españoles? Y ¿los Jesuitas en lo que hoy es Paraquay? ¿No llegaron en busca de tierras para el Emperador Carlos V de España?
¡Nabo!
@110 Troy Temprest
Apr 11th, 2016 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For georgeneurus “puta madre” is too mild!
“hijodelagranputasudakademierdapanchitodesperdiciohumano” is more apt!
No mistaking the gist of what you're saying.
Apr 11th, 2016 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-D
Llamarle perucho argentino, eso lo dice todo.
Apr 11th, 2016 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marti Llazo - good morning!
Apr 12th, 2016 - 04:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0It will be very interesting to know whether he has enough “huevos” and accepts your invitation to visit you in Rio Gallegos.
Just thought this may be useful
Apr 12th, 2016 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/falkland-islanders-greet-election-of-argentine-as-pope-francis-with-surprise-8533715.html
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