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Cristina Fernandez back on stage; attacks Macri and his policies and the Judiciary

Thursday, April 14th 2016 - 02:50 UTC
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Argentine ex president Cristina Fernández addressed thousands of militants that rallied outside Buenos Aires City main courthouse building where earlier in the day she testifies on the dollar future probe conducted by a Federal Judge. Read full article

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  • La Patria

    “They kept saying that I would have some public title so as to have protection (from prosecution), but I don’t need that..” But your son does, darling, doesn't he!

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Is Maximo still using the national air carrier as a cash cow to finance La Campora?

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Don't forget the bobble heads that also ran for and were elected to congress to escape prosecution.

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    She needs to be given an African necklace in the street.
    Damm these people are dumb, believing all the shit she spews.
    They are really scraping the bottom of the gene pool for Kampora supporters.

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    A “citizen front”?

    She needs to be charged with fomenting sedition and civil disobedience.

    Coup anyone?

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Wheres Gollum, has he snuffed it?

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @6 TV

    No news of his arrest at any rate.

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Commies hate free speech worse than the fascists.

    Hence the arise of PC speech.

    Commies out of all ideologies are the most afraid of the quality of their ideas when compared to those of other groups.

    lol.

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    let's bomb Putin and Russia.

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zaphod102

    “Earlier in the day Cristina Fernández showed up at the courthouse to be questioned by Federal Judge Claudio Bonadio in the investigation into the sale of dollar futures. The former president did not answer questions and presented a written statement ...”

    So, she arrived for questioning and refused to answer any questions. Why not? If she was innocent she'd have no problem answering any questions with the truth. A refusal to answer questions sounds suspicious to me.

    Macri was happy to answer questions about his personal finances and yet she refuses. Is this contempt of court? Even if it isn't she's had an opportunity to defend herself and hasn't taken it. The written statement doesn't appear to answer any of the questions that might be asked of her. It is just a whinge about how she thought she was immune, how unfair it all is and how she isn't afraid. It is like a child being caught with his hand in the cookie jar. But I thought I was allowed to take the cookies! I'm not? That is so unfair! I don't care, I've eaten the cookies now so I don't care if you put me on the naughty step!

    I think there will be a few more tantrums...

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Wow. What a sight yesterday. Stripped of formal powers, under threat of being handcuffed and thrown in jail at any time, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner has revealed her full stature as a politician.
    Macri's imagined humilliation of CFK turned into a fiesta popular, a new communion between a leader and her people.
    She knows it's not about her. By choosing not to have any elective position that would shield her from judiciary prosecution, Cristina has put herself on the line--she knows the Griesas and the Bonadios of this world can only bite her heels as she continues along her path.
    Poor Macri. He must be regretting to have disturbed CFK from her Calafate retirement. And what a speech she made! Almost an hour of neatly put concepts. He could die, be born again, and still be unable to produce anything remotely comparable.
    My advice to MP commentators? Wake up--and smell the roses. Leaders like Cristina--or Bernie Sanders, for that matter--come up only once in a lifetime.

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    The underlying meaning of La Kretina's speech ? “You'll never get me, I'm above the Law”....that filthy attitude is what has f*cked /is still f*cking Latrine America.
    As long as shit like that is elected, the people bloody well deserve the shit they get.

    @11 Reekie
    Just proving how naive you are.....as for the shit like your heroes (CFK, Sanders) only appearing once in a lifetime, thank God for that !
    And even the roses can't disguise their stink...

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @12 Enriguito Massot

    Are you for real? How on earth can you defend la Kretina in this outrageous ray?

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    @11 she can't be that great if she needs paid thugs and rent-a-mob to provide her with public support. A true leader gets support willingly and for free

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Reeeeeeeeeekie doesn't believe in even the remote possibility of the rule of law.

    Accordingly every ruling and verdict are simply political acts reflecting the ideologies of those rendering them.

    It is funny though.

    I'm sure that no one wants to see Cretina indicted less than Macaroni.

    Either way the Perronist dogs win.

    If she's convicted they have a martyr.

    If she isn't found guilty her actions are vindicated.

    And she obviously has enough dirt on most of the rgs to make life very unpleasant for everyone across the entire political spectrum.

    Fun times!

    Apr 14th, 2016 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #15 chronic
    “The rule of law.”
    Come on, chronic!

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @11. Enrique

    “Wow. What a sight yesterday. Stripped of formal powers, under threat of being handcuffed and thrown in jail at any time, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner has revealed her full stature as a politician”

    Enrique,
    She is not a martyr or a saint.

    We have seen her stature as a politician. The majority of Argentinians were unimpressed - it was very low.

    @15 Comic

    “If she's convicted they have a martyr.

    If she isn't found guilty her actions are vindicated”

    If she is not investigated and prosecuted at the earliest opportunity, it is a sign of weakness of the new government that campaigned on a platform of reform and anti-corruption.

    She is NOT above the law, no President is, and this must be demonstrated.

    Leaving her alone would have been a mistake.

    @11 Enrique,

    “Leaders like Cristina--or Bernie Sanders, for that matter--come up only once in a lifetime.”

    Nonsense, we see these petty Dictators like CFK all the time. They fill their pockets and lie to the populace. They try to create a perpetual-term dynasty to avoid prosecution, just as she did.
    It usually ends badly for them when people get wise and then upset.

    Let her answer charges in Court, rather than her mob of paid La Campora 'protestors'.

    Bernie Sanders is a different case. He has integrity and cares for the people.

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Oh Yankeeboy, what did you do to them?

    They're still smarting from it whatever it was.

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I am quite certain with where yb is going after what he did, we'll never hear hear from that poor, sick again. If you are smart and google you can find out exactly what yb did to them, his teenaged, male students.

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Vague.

    Got any facts?

    Didn't think so.

    Even a coherent utterance?

    Not on the record.

    lol.

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Is it normal to set up a stage outside a courthouse after being summoned to answer questions and then berate the government and judiciary? I cannot believe it, do they not need a licence to hold a political rally in such circumstances. I thought she was to be questioned. So in Argentina you can refuse to answer questions being asked by a judge simply by writing a statement. No wonder Argentina is the arsehole of the world, quite topsy turvey No?

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    ”You know that I have voluntarily and explicitly resigned to having privileges. I don’t need them. I have the privileges of the people.”

    Have her riches been donated to charity?

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Chronic you're an American....page 32 on the Globe.....in the Post and Chronicle and Times as well this week,

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    So confused.
    My guess is the lithium dosage is out of whack.

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Your an American, did you buy one of those papers? I thought so. You need to mentally floss...so mentally impotent.

    Buy a paper and read it yourself. Seems yb did have family here since the Mayflower too.

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zaphod102

    ...and now Christina's name has been found in the Panama papers.

    ...and the police are at the Santa Cruz government house with a search warrant.

    Oh dear. :-D

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    25. Your version of proof is so strange. If you really lived in the USA you'd know its almost impossible to buy a physical newspaper from another city.
    I can't remember the last time I've see a Boston Globe
    Certainly not where I live

    I think only liberal nutjobs read those types of rags anymore
    so kinda makes sense

    Apr 15th, 2016 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Christmas you pea pod, you can go into most any bitty stand in Boston and get Washtington,LA, New York, jacksonville, Philly, Chicago. Where Do You live....ESDT bumfuck? Or Scotland?

    Now you're really showing your USA ignorance more than using University. This is not Europe......every major city sells them. Airports sell tgem, Barnes and Noble sells dozens of city papers. Geez between Cambridge and Copley I would need a calculator to add them up. Oh......maybe it's special here because of the schools.......NOT.

    There's your liberal word.....and your not even allowed by you handlers to opine what a liberal is you you.

    Wait for it.....wait...wait.....here it comes. Your a liberal .......Come on Lucifer........we're waiying.....we're expecting....you can say it.

    Major metro cities not selling major metro papers. ....hahahaha.........only in your eotld.......is that what conservative world is like? Aka ....east bumfuck.

    There's more enlightened people in t h e middle east and we're killing them, where did we fuck up at?

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @28 poppy

    Luci seems to know little about the USA.

    He denies living near Boston, that's a start.

    @20 Comic


    Report abuse
    Vague.

    Got any facts?
    Didn't think so.
    Even a coherent utterance?
    Not on the record”

    Comic,
    that's you, you're projecting.

    How many times are going tomtryntonprovoke responses with your childish goading?

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    My gosh how old are you?
    Christmas, you pea pod? WTF? Drunk much?

    I've not touched a physical newspaper in at least 5 years.

    And the last Barnes and Noble ia now a off brand discount store.

    You're not making any points proving you're an American. That's for sure.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @30 Luci Troll

    “And the last Barnes and Noble ia now a off brand discount store.

    You're not making any points proving you're an American. That's for sure”

    LIAR !

    Really, Luci/YB?

    You can't be serious.
    There are three Barnes & Noble stores in Seattle, alone. I have been to two of them.

    There is one near Sacramento California, on Sunrise Blvd. where I spend a lot of time each time I visit.

    For those who don't know, they are huge stores with many titles, fiction and non-fiction, a huge variety of periodicals, national and international newspapers, and the obligatory Starbucks.

    https://maps.google.ca/maps?biw=320&bih=460&um=1&ie=UTF-8&fb=1&gl=ca&entry=s&sa=X&ftid=0x809ade237c347e8b:0x6ddd1e139a747b36&gmm=CgIgAQ%3D%3D

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    I don't live in Seattle and the only one I know about was closed. There are probably some in the burbs but I have no reason to go there.

    Do you two realize how ridiculous you sound?

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @32 YB

    Just shows you don't know what you are talking about.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    It actually doesn't show that at all.
    Logic isn't your friend
    It only shows that you are very unfamiliar with where I live.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @34 YB

    You have been very careful not to let us know where you live.

    That way you can deny everything.

    Likely it's not in the 'States at all.

    Surely, you are just another “Voice” in the wilderness.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Likely?
    How do you figure?

    And why does it matter to you and Grunt?

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Lucifer I will give you my typing sucks and I don't check enough when on my phone...touche' to you. Like I told Conq several years back, hit in the right hand.

    Barnes and Noble is like the only major book store in the USA. But, any major metro city sells every other major metro papers. It's irrelevant whether you “touched” a physcial paper in 5 years, but to claim you cannot buy a other city papers is ludicrous.

    I sent Voice a photo last year near my office:

    http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/sailor1959/media/Quabbin%202%2028%202015_zpsp4j5rsxd.jpg.html?o=0

    Maybe you can do the same? I do not FEAR divulging where I life, do you? I am in and out of the city proper this weekend, I'll send you more photos with referring your name of evil. Goebbels or Hitler might have been more fitting.

    Your next snort should be:

    That proves nothing......lol. If I can get of to Harvard Square maybe I can get a shot holding up the Scotland Herald. You have a interesting time frames of posting. 12:03 MP time my last post was 8:03 EST and you were.....long gone in bed.

    Take a photo Lucifer.....show you're transparency.

    Folks of MP, watch Lucifer explain his citizenship of the USA.

    Lucifer:

    That proves nothing
    What's in it for me?
    What a retard
    What's in it for me?
    Did you up your meds yet?
    What's in it for me?
    WTF.....are you drunk?
    What's in it for me?

    Guid cheerio the nou!

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    You two have a hard time with sales.

    You are right that my response is;

    what's in it for me?

    As I see it
    nada

    Try again, grunt
    try again.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    YB

    “What's in it for me?”

    That's easy - credibility.

    IF you were a legit 'ordinary' American, and posting offensive material, that's one thing.

    As an imposter misrepresenting Americans, that's another.

    As it stands, you're a disembodied stateless Troll.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You check of this grunt's photo?

    You can't do that because you will need to be in the USA, that is the ONLY REASON.

    Fake fuck.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Sorry not clicking on that link grunt.
    I'm not as dumb as you or Canuck1 or Canuck2

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    lol....yet you post links. We all know that you already clicked it. What are you Elaine? Does proof where I live trouble you?

    Hey.....what major US city news paper would you like me to take a picture with if I get a chance when I'm in Boston and by one of the many news stand and kiosks?

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    I don't care where you live.
    It doesn't matter to me
    I didn't and won't click those types of links.

    Post as many pictures as you like to prove....nothing of significance.

    Its nice you think so much of me.
    Creepy but nice to know you care
    hahahahahaha

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @41 YB

    It's a photo of Capt. Poppy standing with a dated newspaper, next to a sign at the entrance to a US gov. security installation.

    Wow! At least HIS credentials ring true.

    How about yours.

    Nearly EVERY USA RESIDENT/citizen who can read or see TV, knows Barnes & Noble are still all over the place and have not vanished.

    It only goes to follow that a NON-resident/ citizen would have no access to printed USA news media.

    Before you try to tell us you are a US citizen living offshore, remember you just told us the B&N is your area has turned into discount store.

    Trout Run ? *wink*

    You have no

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Meanwhile, the subject of the original article. Or rather how the Argentine mainstream is gradually rejecting CFK and Kirchnerism. Or what is being reported as “deskirchnerización.” Which some are seeing as “desratización.”

    The principal members of the PJ, the Partido Justicialista, known to most as the Peronist party, are trying to distance the Kirchnerists from the PJ.

    And then there were the many earlier Kirchnerist-bloc legislators who abandoned CFK and Kirchnerism over the votes to pay the holdout debts.

    Let's see where this goes.

    http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1889927-el-pj-avanza-con-la-deskirchnerizacion-y-planea-un-relanzamiento

    Marginalising La Cámpora:

    http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1889927-el-pj-avanza-con-la-deskirchnerizacion-y-planea-un-relanzamiento

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Canuck1, believe what you want it makes no difference to me.
    For some reason its does to you and Grunt
    Probably because of your low intelligence you just can't get past minor details.
    It happens.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Nice insults....again, nothing of substance.

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @46 Nowhere man

    Childish post, and no substance.

    You've shown you know nothing personally about the USA.

    Come back when you have something intelligent to say.

    :-D

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    Something in that post not factual?
    Glad to debate the points.

    I seem to remember you couldn't prove people from Canada are smart.
    You've even had a couple weeks to research it.
    Still got nothing huh?
    Figures

    Apr 16th, 2016 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Troy...1202 EST here....must be 5 over ther, he's not going to debate until luci wakes. Besides, he debating is somewhat childish name calling. What a life that kid has, his/her entire days jumping around screen names yelling insults. I wonder if her mom let's her out of the basement.

    Apr 17th, 2016 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Well, Capt., ...

    It's quiet here today.

    3:30 PST

    Fred must have had the Quincy Court condo showing today, from 1-4 and then return some of the display furniture, drive some clients home... maybe dinner...

    Apr 17th, 2016 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It was a great day in the city. Long it's 1230am now. Was only near60.....warm in the sun and cool in the shape....but a day nonetheless.

    Had to stop at Harvard Square for the news kiosk there....Out of Town news.......took a short video of the....no physical papers......national and international...lol. I'm sure baldy locks had a special day of showings as well. I wonder if his mom is his secretary or.....?

    Apr 18th, 2016 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @49“Baldy Locks”

    “...I seem to remember you couldn't prove people from Canada are smart.”

    Oh, ho hum...

    http://qz.com/662382/sadly-the-last-hope-for-the-global-economy-is-now-canada/?utm_source=YPH_link_1

    Apr 20th, 2016 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    49 Lucifer
    “I seem to remember you couldn't prove people from Canada are smart.” Your difficulties have been mentioned in dispatches by a smart Canadian “Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice…There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb,” http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
    Heres some lists obtained in fifteen seconds. I guess you've got a hard on for Canada probably because they saw you coming and rightly refused you addmission into the country.
    http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
    http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
    http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @54 Terry

    Actually, Justin Trudeau also clearly explained Quantum Physics hen asked by a reporter.

    Fred (Luci ) also seems to 'have a hard on' for US Servicemen. He talks of being “passed around” by them. I wonder if that was his own experience.

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    55 Troy Tempest
    He's just an inadequate little turd who tries to overcome his deficiencies with being an anonymous key-board warrior.

    Apr 21st, 2016 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lucifer

    54. 50 great “inventions” and most of them are food!
    Priceless

    Apr 23rd, 2016 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    As Ronnie once said of Maggie (but more truly here!), Isn't she marvelous :=) She may say, with characteristic courage, “They can put me in prison, but they can’t silence me,” but with the solidarity of the people in Argentina and around the world they will be able to do neither. So much for Macri's supposed ”democratic reforming” credentials, in just the last few weeks he's banned Telosur, been caught out in the Panama Papers and is trying to jail his predecessor and most effective opposition leader. So appropriate that this courtcase came the same day of the final deal with the vultures, as that's the real reason he and his ilk need rid of Cristina, who'd win the next election by a mile if it were to be held now. I pledge myself to the international defence campaign, and look forward to a vibrant campaign and a God-willing a great victory

    Apr 23rd, 2016 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @58 BK

    CFK and her puppet Scioli were defeated by a majority vote of ordinary Argentines because she let the Peso devalue by nearly 3 times, people living in poverty was over 30% and growing, inflation was at 35% per annum, unemployment growing, Public health care and services were eroding, infrastructure was neglected, and the country had defaulted on its debts.

    Her critics and the Judiciary were intimidated by violent thugs and a Prosecutor murdered.
    She was perceived as cortupt and hardly a visionary.

    By contrast, Macri has stabilized the Peso, settled the Default and is attracting new investment.

    Best of all, he is prosecuting corrupt politicians and will no doubt try to investigate Nisman's murder.

    Argentina is already being welcomed by other world leaders who shunned CFK as the shrieking crazed harpy she is.

    Good for Macri.

    Apr 23rd, 2016 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1

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