Falklands state of the nation: economic challenges but also hopes of a productive relationship with Argentina

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The Falkland Islands finances remain robust despite a future of domestic and overseas challenges, but on the other hand recent developments in Argentina have opened hopes for a productive, closer relationship with the South American continent, said Governor Colin Roberts in his annual speech on the state of the nation. Read full article

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Vestige
Not a nation.
May 31st, 2016 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Lord Lucan
The Falkland Islands will still be British in 100 years . Nothing Argyland can do about it…
May 31st, 2016 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Terence Hill
1 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire

Duhaime's Law Dictionary
Nation Definition:
A distinct group or race of people that share history, traditions and culture.
Related Terms: State
Farley properly distinguishes a nation from a state, referring to a nation as:
“... typically ethnic groups with a common language and a common sense of community....
”Nationhood is a demographic and psychological phenomenon. Statehood is a formal-legal phenomenon.“
”... a race of men ... an aggregate body of persons, exceeding a single family, who are connected by the ties of a common lineage and perhaps by a common language .... a society of persons occupying a common territory and united under a common government.
Twiss, Travers, The Law of Nations Considered as Independent Political Communities (London: Oxford University Press, 1861)
http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/N/Nation.aspx
At the end of the day it matters little what outsiders opine, as the Islanders are imbued with the right of self-determination. So they can define themselves however they wish, while conversely third parties have no legal standing in the matter.
May 31st, 2016 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Voice
Yawn....
Ya talking to me...??
Huh....Nations have a nationality...
What is the Falklands Nationality...
Falklandish....?
May 31st, 2016 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Terence Hill
4 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire
You've already made one pronouncement which is refuted by Duhaime's Law Dictionary. So you only get one kick at the can. Subsequently trying to move the 'goal-posts' is a fallacy so I'm not going going to aid and abet you in your attempted fraud.
Jun 01st, 2016 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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MALVINERO SUPREMO
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gordo1
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Jun 01st, 2016 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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LEPRecon
@6

The Falklands is surrounded by the South Atlantic.

There is no Argentine sea. I've looked on maps produced by various nations around the world and by UNCLOS and nowhere does this Argentine sea appear. Maybe it's with your mythical 'malvinas'...all in your mind.

Oh and wikipedia is not proof of the existence of the Argentine sea as anyone can add to that, even lying Argentines.
Jun 01st, 2016 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Roger Lorton
Voice - I am English first, and British second. The Islanders are Falklanders first and British second. Hardly an unusual situation. What are you?
Jun 01st, 2016 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Skip
Voice and Vestige

You need to learn the definition of nation.

You are perhaps confused between nation, state and nation-state. Common enough amongst ignorant people.

What's that I hear.... Falkland Islander.... fancy that!
Jun 01st, 2016 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Voice
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Of course you are....
Just like most Falklanders....
...but you are no longer a Falklander...are you...
Does that mean you have lost your nationality....;-)))

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That's right Skip...just let that one sink in .....
You need to learn...per se...
Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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ChrisR
I wonder if Governor Colin Roberts has been ordered by the FCO to say that drivel about Argentina.

Do the Islanders want a closer relationship, do they want a hole in the head? Either is as bad as the other I would have thought.

Perhaps after 25 years without constant hassle from any Tom, Dick or Susana Mabel Malcorra (The Malevolent Midget Foreign Minister) they might consider a tentative move or two.

But given Argentina's history of self-destruction it may not exist.
Jun 01st, 2016 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Terence Hill
6 MALVINERO SUPREMO
Not exactly. ”International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contrary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,” p.74
The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine... By Roberto C. Laver
Jun 01st, 2016 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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The Voice
@9 He won't answer, he knows he is a twat. He is continually proving it. Rather ugly twat too… Are twats a nation?
Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Briton
Governor Colin Roberts ,

perhaps its Argentina who should be crawling , making amends , walking the first step,

stop being so weak.
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Roger Lorton
Voice -

I'm not a Falklander. I have never been a Falklander.

I told you. I am English.

Are you always easily confused ?
Jun 01st, 2016 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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James Marshall
Voice, I was just wondering what nationality you would give the members of the Jewish Nation? or Native North American Indians.
Jun 01st, 2016 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Conqueror
@1. Yes it is. Prove your contention.
@4. What is the nationality of a Bermudan? What is the nationality of someone from French Guiana?
@6. A mainland “country” destined to be destroyed by nuclear explosions.
@11. Let's imagine a “country” inhabited by mongrels and migrants. Disgusting. It's called argieland. Revolting! Extermination is the best solution.
Jun 01st, 2016 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Alejo
Talking about nationalities, is Malvinero Supremo able to explain why so many Spaniards and Italians one meets in London are, in fact, argentinos? These people explain they abandon Argentina in the bad times and then return, as argentinos, when the economic and political situation improves. Boludos!
Jun 01st, 2016 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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lsolde
@1 Vestige,
Argentina-not a nation.
A collection of immigrant southern Europeans, whose ancestors murdered the rightful owners of the land.
@4 Think, er l mean Voice,
Go back to sleep.
@7 gordo1,
l missed what you posted!
lt must have been good to get it removed, lol!
lt doesn't concern you.
@
Jun 01st, 2016 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Voice
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Falklanders = British Nationality...not a nation, but a BRITISH overseas territory
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Israelis
American
18
British...
French...
Has anyone got any hard ones...?
I'm acing these....
Jun 01st, 2016 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Terence Hill
21 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer and impersonator extraordinaire
“Falklanders ...not a nation” Already asked and answered “... a race of men ... an aggregate body of persons, exceeding a single family, who are connected by the ties of a common lineage and perhaps by a common language .... a society of persons occupying a common territory and united under a common government.”1
Twiss, Travers, The Law of Nations Considered as Independent Political Communities (London: Oxford University Press, 1861)
www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/N/Nation.aspx
Jun 02nd, 2016 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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lsolde
@7 gordo1,
re post # 20,
The sentence, “lt doesn't concern you” was not meant for you but for sr Think, the post before the one to you.
Don't know whether it was my fault or Mercopress.
Prob mine as its getting late.
Jun 02nd, 2016 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Roger Lorton
Voice - did I say that they were a nation? Still confused.

I'll try saying it simply, in the hope you can grasp it.

I am English first, British second.

I would think that a Welshman is Welsh first and British second.

An Islanders is Falklander first, British second.

Starting to sink in Voice?

So, what are you?
Jun 02nd, 2016 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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lsolde
An Argentine?
Jun 02nd, 2016 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Voice
A Voice....
That's all you need to know...
Jun 02nd, 2016 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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James Marshall
21 Voice, so wrong.......So no Canadian Native North Americans then? No English, Irish, French, German, American, Argentinian etc Jews, just Israeli Jews that comprise the Jewish Nation. Interesting! So glad we cleared that up then, I will take your word for it, because like that £1000.00 bet, your a man of your word, no?

One for the history books, 'No Native North American Indians were in the area now known as Canada' so the loyalists didn't steal any land only the rebellious people of the USA'. You sure you are not mixing your facts with the Argentine History books for the 'conquest of the desert'.
Jun 02nd, 2016 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Voice
Jews are a religion...anyone can become a Jew....
Just like Muslims... anyone can become one...
Skip....
Jun 02nd, 2016 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Hepatia
The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Jun 03rd, 2016 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Roger Lorton
How many times has that nonsense been said Hepatia? Your compatriots were saying that in the 1830's. Menem said you'd have the islands by the year 2000.

Dream on Hepatitis
Jun 03rd, 2016 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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DemonTree
@28 Voice

What nationality are Kurds?

Since Bermudans are British, does that mean they have no self determination?
Jun 03rd, 2016 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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James Marshall
Voice@28, yeah, sure Voice, grasping at straws and oh look, you still think I am Skip. Always the under achiever Voice.

The Jewish Nation exists, like it or not and they comprise citizens from many countries, and by definition they are a 'Nation'

What about those pesky North American Indians, that only come from the US, none from Canada, seems you ignored that one......

Think.....
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