There is no animosity, said Argentine Foreign Minister Susana Malcorra after meeting with Pope Francis in Rome on the sidelines of an event sponsored by the United Nations, just days after the pontiff publicly rejected a multi-million-peso “donation” from the administration of President Mauricio Macri destined for the pope’s Scholas Occurrentes program. Read full article
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Jun 14th, 2016 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Pope never rejects any gifts in that...
Very few argentine Presidents faced direct issues with the Vatican and the Popes. J. A. Roca faced the worse issues since the Catholic Church was fiercely against the law 1420 (that established the free and secular education). Alfonsin faced the very same issue since the Church was against the legalization of the divorce. Now. the Pope is against this new government because he is protecting peronism and CFK. As in most of the latin countries secular political ideas have ever been rejected by the Catholic Church. Peronism has always guaranteed old Catholic Church privileges.
Jun 14th, 2016 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't it be funny if Francis revoked Inter caetera?
Jun 14th, 2016 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indigenous groups have been requesting this for years, so it would be a fine gesture on his part...
Inter Caetera, the Papal Bull issued by the Borgia Pope Alexander VI in 1493, was only ever realy recognised by Spain. For the current Holy Father to revoke it would cause havoc in Argentina because the cause of the malvinistas to obtain sovereignty over the Falkland/Malvinas archipelago includes this papal bull as one the bases - a principal base!
Jun 14th, 2016 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile a FpV deputy is caught trying to hide US$8.5 million in a convent. http://www.bubblear.com/money-hiding-convent/
Jun 14th, 2016 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Coincidence? ;-)
All is well between the Pope and Macri.
Jun 14th, 2016 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Malcorra says it...
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Jun 14th, 2016 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Coincidence? Not at all. Both, the Catholic Church and Peronist party, love money (lots of it) and need the poors to survive....
It is one for the other !!!!!!!!!
#7 pgerman
Jun 14th, 2016 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ones carrying bills in bags are the apprentices (they must be punished).
The professionals, though, are those who take their money out through more sophisticated means, evading millions in taxes.
When they get caught red-handed such as Macri did, they don't go to prison. They make an amnesty law and all is pardoned. No jail time, no fines, no nada.
@8
Jun 15th, 2016 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bla..bla...bla..bla....there are always excuses.....CFK is being processed (aahhh yes..it is a political issue !!), De Vido is processed (another political issue), Enrique Vanoli, Axel Kichiloff, the whole former Central Bank board of directors, Jaime, Lopez, Sbatella, Sabatella, Etchegaray, Anibal Fernandez.....I cannot remember them all....what a nice row !!!.....they are just apprentices.
@8 ”The ones carrying bills in bags are the apprentices (they must be punished).
Jun 15th, 2016 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reekie, that is very funny, and another of your many argie lies in support of criminal Kirchnerism.
So where did those millions of dollars come from, Reekie ? And observe that we are talking about millions of dollars, since even the corrupt Kirchnerists recognise that argie pesos are notoriously not worth much.
The one who was caught, in flagrante delicto, with weapons and over US$8 million in cash was none other than the former Secretary of Public Works, José López --- certainly a big fish in the Kirchner pond. Even at the moment of his arrest he tried to bribe the police, because, well, he is argentine after all. López was the right-hand man for the minister of national planning, De Vido, who knew very well what López was doing, and De Vido is in the judicial sights as well.
López was hardly an apprentice.”
There will not be enough room in the jails.
#10 Marti
Jun 15th, 2016 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The one that was caught...is...José López...certainly a big fish in the Kirchner pond.
Yes, a big fish who may be corrupt, and yet he was caught like an amateur, with cash in a bag.
And again, our dear president Mauricio Macri is not in danger of being caught with a bunch of bills.
Some of his wealth is safely hidden in Bahamas and Panama, currently under investigation--Ooooh! But at least not in a bag.
And about the argie lies
...because, well, he is argentine after all.
You are not berating corruption. You are berating alleged Kirchnerist corruption only, and ultimately dumping all Argentine nationals in the same bag.
In your green envy for the great South American country, you go too far (talk is cheap) and end up being ridicule. Martillazo en el dedo.
@11 Enrique, you are making a fool of yourself trying to defend the indefensible. 'He was caught like an amateur' must be one of your most amusing excuses. The corrupt Kirchnerites are being caught because they no longer have the power to bribe the law to get away with it. They have been stealing from the very Argentines you claim to champion.
Jun 15th, 2016 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0#11...any money Macri has out of the country...which is completely legal, was money earned by him...not stolen from the people of this country. Unlike the grupo K.
Jun 15th, 2016 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0#11 Some of his wealth is safely hidden in Bahamas and Panama, currently under investigation
Jun 15th, 2016 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It isn't hidden if he is open about it! This is normal for wealthy Argentines since they trust neither the peso or the banks. Some of CFK's money is in the Seychelles apparently.
But at least not in a bag.
No paper trail to money in a bag = more difficult to check where it came from = suspicious.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeekie:
Jun 15th, 2016 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just because Macaroni may be trying to avoid paying taxes the massive guilt of the K's for looting rg is in no way ameliorated.
However your assertions do support perhaps the only insightful thing that you have ever written: All argentine lie.
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