MercoPress, en Español

Montevideo, December 22nd 2024 - 17:10 UTC

 

 

Malcorra will present the Malvinas case before C24 next Thursday

Saturday, June 18th 2016 - 04:34 UTC
Full article 44 comments

Argentine foreign minister Susana Malcorra will be absent from the debate on the Venezuelan situation scheduled for next Thursday in Washington, since that same day she will be attending the UN Special Decolonization Committee when the Falklands/Malvinas issue is to be addressed. Read full article

Comments

Disclaimer & comment rules
  • Skip

    Ground Hog Day..... edition C24.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Same old, same old ........... yawn

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

     
    ...“since both Venezuela and UK are permanent members of the UN Security Council”
    ...what?.......don't think so...

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    Venezuela - permanent basket case more like. Someone bring a straight jacket.

    Malcorra - “We are here because we want to steal and colonise the Falkland Islands and steal South Georgia and the rest of tbe islands in that region”. What?

    Its about decolonisation you dummies, and self determination.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    What case? And anyway this committee has absolutely NO jurisdiction!!!!

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    And the little committee consisting of members from states that are mainly classified as ''not free'' or ''partially free'' will make outlandish 'recommendations' that are not UN resolutions.

    Ha ha ha

    https://www.academia.edu/11274445/Falklands_-_UN_C24_Committee

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • James Marshall

    Why are Argentina even allowed to make a representation at the C24, it is a decolonisation committee. It has no jurisdiction or remit to discuss or entertain disputes over territory. All this shows, just like with Spain and Gibraltar, is that the committee is anti UK and are influenced by countries that have no right to have a say in the C24. If they are disputed, then they should be taken off the C24 list as it is the wrong forum to chase their fantasy.

    But then it is obvious that the only reason they remain on the list, is the opportunity to give Spain and Argentina a UN sub-sub committee forum in which to publicise their spurious, unethical and morally corrupt claims without having to provide a burden of proof. An ineffectual, out of date and useless committee entertaining childish arguments by a group of countries with 'chips on their shoulders'.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @ 6 Brit Bob

    http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/members.shtml

    Very few of these countries have any influence at all. What is surprising is the number of Commonwealth countries amounts them - how do they vote?

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Just go away, Malcorra.
    A tiresome person from a tiresome country.
    Get lost, Scram, scoot, begone.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Surprising. There are currently, according to your link, 29 members of the “decolonisation” sub sub committee. Why hasn't it changed its name?

    Its “deliberations” can be characterized in various ways. First, if we consider a state such as China, it clearly has too many “diplomatic” personnel and is hard pressed to find something supposedly useful for them to do. In addition, we can surely see a wish on the part of China to stick its nose into anything it can, even on the other side of the planet.

    Next, for a number of “delegations”, it's an opportunity to have yet another taxpayer-funded jolly. No doubt they take every option for acquiring tax-free goods. One can imagine the Venezuelan delegation buying additional bags in which to carry off their purchases of food and toilet rolls.

    Then there would be a clear recognition on the part of some states that, unless they push themselves forward, the world is likely to forget that they exist.

    There is, however, an opportunity for the Falklands in these hearings. It may require hurried re-writing of speeches and photocopying. The address by the Falklands delegation will necessarily take a considerable time. The idea being to brand every argie lie as such, to correct every argie deliberate misstatement and to produce the appropriate evidence. For instance, the Falklanders could start by producing the evidence that the Islands were discovered and first settled by the British. The evidence that the spanish only bought the French settlement. The evidence that, in the 1770/71 Falklands Crisis, it was the spanish that backed off. That leaving a plaque to assert sovereignty was common accepted practice in the 18th century. That the argie “claim”, in part, rests on the fraudulent activities of one Luis Vernet. That his illegal settlement was destroyed by the Americans and the “settlers” were removed. That no argie ever remained on the Islands long enough. That, in 1833, the British only restored the previous legal position.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    You can understand why the US has not paid any subs for at least the last two years given this load of crap on their land, but why are they allowed to keep their veto or even vote?

    It would prevent Obumma from arse licking the Argentines and he's VERY welcome to arse lick The Malevolent Midget Malcorra. Mind, her arse is that big it would take his attention off world affairs: that alone would be worth it.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Thanks, ChrisR.
    Can't get that scenario/vision out of my mind now & still giggling.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    It just proves 110% that the Macri Govt has exactly the same nasty belligerent and colonialistic stance over the Islands as the Kirschener Govt did.

    The chaos of Venezuela today as about 100 times more important to South and Central America than a little perceived problem that Argentina believes in fantasy that it has and it will never alter anyway!
    Combined pressure on Venezuela could make a difference.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    There isn't a “Malvinas” case because the “Malvinas” don't exist.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Who if any, has the authority to remove Gibraltar and the Falkland's of this list,

    can it be done. Can great Britain remove them.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejo

    @HughJuanCoeurs

    Sadly, the Malvinas DO exist - because of history the Islands were named originally Les Iles Malouines by the French from Saint Malo who named the archipelago thus. The Spaniards then used this example to call the islands Las Malvinas.

    Thus officially the United Nations uses all three names in its official documents. The Falkland Islands, les Malouines and las Malvinas - depending on the language it uses.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @16 Alejo,
    That may well be so, however most of us find the “m” word to be highly offensive.
    lt is utterly forbidden in our household. And rightly so.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Agreed.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “Thursday 23 June, in New York, will be the first time that Malcorra attends the C24 annual session representing Argentina, when Falklands lawmakers will also be making their position before the Special committee.”

    So, Malcorra will forsake her responsibilities regarding attending the OAS meeting on Venezuela so she can grandstand at the C24 annual session. The C24 is a blatantly partisan sub, subcommittee that produces the same predictable resolution each year ad-nauseum. By ignoring its obligations and responsibilities to ensure that the Islanders have the right to decide on their future, it has demonstrated that it is no fit for purpose. Despite the recent intervention of the SG of the UN, it steadfastly refuses to even visit the Falklands.

    Yet Mrs Malcorra is prepared to waste her time with this corrupt excuse for a ‘Special committee’ instead of meeting her primary responsibilities.

    But, observing Priority’s in its foreign policy has never been a strong point in Argentina.

    Argentina is presenting her as a credible candidate to succeed Ban Ki-moon as SG of the UN! If she is the best they have got, it is no wonder that they are in such a state.

    Jun 18th, 2016 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @17 Isolde

    You will, I hope, have noticed I used the word “sadly”. Also, for me they are the Falkland Islands.

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @20 gordo1 or Alejo?

    Did you forget to login with the right name?

    You answer Isolde @17 stating what YOU wrote but Isolde was replying Alejo @16, who actually wrote it.

    Tut, tut. It is hard to keep up with multiple personalities, isn't it?

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    God, what is it about this site that attracts sock puppets?

    It's why so few people post on here these days. Mercopress doesn't give a sh!t as long as we continue to be clickbait.

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejo

    I use Chrome on my desktop and Safari on my Macbook pro - no mystery!

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @16. Really? “The Falkland Islands take their name from the Falkland Sound, a strait separating the archipelago's two main islands. The name ”Falkland“ was applied to the channel by John Strong, captain of an English expedition which landed on the islands in 1690. Strong named the strait in honour of Anthony Cary, 5th Viscount of Falkland, the Treasurer of the Navy who sponsored their journey.” So “Falklands” has the best and oldest provenance. The word “originally” is quite inappropriate. And,as Isolde says, the “m” word is highly offensive.

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    Thanks @24. I'm glad that so many people agree with the name “Falkland” rather than the not accepted (or acceptable) “Malvinas”

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Falklands,
    Falkland islands,
    The British Falkland islands,

    I don't see that other unpronounceable name anywhere, do you lot.

    The Falklands, it sounds great, it looks great and it is great.

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Interesting illustration of priorities. Missing a meeting on an important current
    issue, which might actually achieve something, to go to the C24 and give the same old speech and get the same old non-result as for the last 50 years.

    How likely is it that she is skipping the OAS meeting on purpose to avoid antagonising Venezuela, given they have a vote on the next UNSG?

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    I use 3 different browsers on 4 different devices and yet still manage to use one login.

    If I needed a second login then it would use a variation of my current name.

    Caught with a sock puppet Gordo. Just own your stupidity don't try and make excuses like Think and Yankeeboy did.

    Your comments aren't really insightful or notable. All you've done is multiply that infliction.

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Whatcha mean Skip....“If I needed a second login ”
    You have a second login...
    ...that you have never ever used with a different name...
    You only created it so that you could do double posts...if you ran out of space...
    I believe you Skip....;-)))))

    Jun 19th, 2016 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    That's it, Voice?

    Ok.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    “...The modern English are still not quite sure whether the people across the water are friend or foe. 'Our ancient enemies will never cease to be our enemies, as far as I’m concerned...' ”

    “That lack of emotional attachment to Europe — and indeed the hostility that some feel — helps explain why the country’s citizens might be eager to leave even amid the overwhelming consensus of experts that a departure could be economically, politically and strategically disastrous.”

    “...nationalism is generally regarded as a force for good”

    ““The mood on the streets is quite aggressive,” said Bannister, a 61-year-old retired teacher who serves on the local district council. “If you say ‘Do you want a leaflet?’ people will say ‘You’re a joke.’ ”''

    ”...Following the KILLING on Thursday of Jo Cox, a pro-E.U. member of Parliament, the country has begun to reckon with why the rhetoric of the referendum campaign — particularly on the “leave” side — has turned so hostile and divisive.“

    ”But as Bannister can attest, the well of anger and xenophobia in Britain runs deep, fed by politicians who demonize Europe to suit their own ends and tabloid newspapers that whip up nativist sentiment with headlines warning of migrant and refugee “invasions.”

    Sam Winwright, 27, is the son of a British father and a French mother. But, proudly sporting a Seattle Seahawks cap, he said he feels more American than European.

    “If it weren’t for immigration, my mum and dad wouldn’t have met, but Dover is getting full of people who aren’t from around here. They’re living on benefits and making it harder for me and my girlfriend to find housing.”

    If Britain leaves, he said, those people will stop coming. And besides, he has never really trusted the Germans

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/when-voting-on-brexit-emotional-ties-to-continent-likely-wont-be-on-brits-minds/2016/06/19/4224e6f6-324c-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop_b

    The definition of a sick, twisted, shit society.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • James Marshall

    Hmm, Voice is filling in for Think again.....now where is El Think....important and busy time of the year for some in the UN. What with all those experts that are needed. Safe travels Think. ;-). Mum's the word.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    What kind of a society is it when:

    “'Our ancient enemies will never cease to be our enemies”

    (for FOUR years I have been told by countless ANGLOS here that one should move on from the past, yet.... here THEY are, with mentality like the above)

    “indeed the hostility”

    (I thought aimless hostility was bad... here they are, with aimless hostility at Europeans who outside of Brussels bureaucrats have done nothing to the loser English Anglos, yet these Anglos have HOSTILITY towards them... why?)

    “...nationalism is generally regarded as a force for good”

    (any different from Fascist Italy? nope.)

    ““The mood on the streets is quite aggressive”

    (sounds like a third world cesspool situation)


    ”...Following the KILLING on Thursday of Jo Cox, a pro-E.U. member of Parliament”

    (IT IS a third world cesspool! Certainly killing of politicians for their views is not dignified of a place like Europe... so the Anglo English are right, they are not Europe... just not exactly the way they imagined :) )

    “the well of anger and xenophobia in Britain runs deep”

    (really? Now that's a news flash... I have been saying it here for 4 years! You're welcome Economist, Washington Post)

    “Sam Winwright, 27, is the son of a British father and a French mother said: ' If Britain leaves, he said, those people will stop coming' ”

    (well, the epitome of pathetic, the son of direct immigrants trying to expel other immigrants and clear xenophobia)

    Now imagine the above was about Argentina... what the comments about our society would be here by these absurd Anglos.

    Britain should leave, they are just a baby 4th Reich. As I have said before.

    Society wise, the English and the Saudis, Bahrain, etc, have much in common.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @34 nostrils,
    You indeed have it bad.
    But as an arrogant Anglo, l couldn't care less about you.
    Just go away & die quietly, will you?
    Thank ye kindly.♥

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    #34 One of the essential differences between the UK and Argentina is that in the UK a certain sort of idiot is giving impromptu on the street interviews to foreign journalists, where as in Argentina the same idiot would have been made a government minister, school teacher, judge, governor or mayor.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #34
    Pretty stupid aren't you. You assume, because it can feed on your hatred, that ALL of the UK don't like “Europeans”. Utter nonsense, but again, what would you know.
    All you have to do is look at the cemetery's of the British war dead in France, Belgium and Holland to see how we didn't care for Europe.

    Anyway, you must be an utter twat to keep using stupid adolescent nom de plumes as you do.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Meanwhile Nostril, you lot are still in love withe Nazis...

    http://www.thelocal.de/20160620/goerings-pants-go-for-3000-at-disputed-munich-auction-nazi

    Was it you that bought Goerings underpants, or perhaps Think/ Or possibly VoiceofThink?

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Good points, Clyde15.

    Jun 20th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Since there is NOTHING to decolonize in the Falklands Islands, why in the devil are
    they participating in a UN decolonizing committee?

    Philippe

    Jun 22nd, 2016 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    40 Philippe
    Since the issue is predicated on international law, it is of vital importance to refute any claim by Argentina. Otherwise,

    Jun 24th, 2016 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Argentina, admit it, you've had it & you've lost it.
    Bye bye.
    No, you cannot “have” the Falklands,
    “Why?”, because they are NOT YOURS.
    Now just vamoose, disappear, scat, get lost.

    Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    40 Philippe
    Since the issue is predicated on international law, it is of vital importance to refute any claim by Argentina. Otherwise, such 'silence' could be considered acquiescence.

    Jun 24th, 2016 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The carrier is all but ready,
    and the other one is well on course

    Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

Commenting for this story is now closed.
If you have a Facebook account, become a fan and comment on our Facebook Page!