Argentine foreign minister Susana Malcorra will be absent from the debate on the Venezuelan situation scheduled for next Thursday in Washington, since that same day she will be attending the UN Special Decolonization Committee when the Falklands/Malvinas issue is to be addressed. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGround Hog Day..... edition C24.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Same old, same old ........... yawn
Jun 18th, 2016 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0...since both Venezuela and UK are permanent members of the UN Security Council
...what?.......don't think so...
Venezuela - permanent basket case more like. Someone bring a straight jacket.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malcorra - We are here because we want to steal and colonise the Falkland Islands and steal South Georgia and the rest of tbe islands in that region. What?
Its about decolonisation you dummies, and self determination.
What case? And anyway this committee has absolutely NO jurisdiction!!!!
Jun 18th, 2016 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the little committee consisting of members from states that are mainly classified as ''not free'' or ''partially free'' will make outlandish 'recommendations' that are not UN resolutions.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha ha
https://www.academia.edu/11274445/Falklands_-_UN_C24_Committee
Why are Argentina even allowed to make a representation at the C24, it is a decolonisation committee. It has no jurisdiction or remit to discuss or entertain disputes over territory. All this shows, just like with Spain and Gibraltar, is that the committee is anti UK and are influenced by countries that have no right to have a say in the C24. If they are disputed, then they should be taken off the C24 list as it is the wrong forum to chase their fantasy.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0But then it is obvious that the only reason they remain on the list, is the opportunity to give Spain and Argentina a UN sub-sub committee forum in which to publicise their spurious, unethical and morally corrupt claims without having to provide a burden of proof. An ineffectual, out of date and useless committee entertaining childish arguments by a group of countries with 'chips on their shoulders'.
@ 6 Brit Bob
Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/members.shtml
Very few of these countries have any influence at all. What is surprising is the number of Commonwealth countries amounts them - how do they vote?
Just go away, Malcorra.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0A tiresome person from a tiresome country.
Get lost, Scram, scoot, begone.
Surprising. There are currently, according to your link, 29 members of the decolonisation sub sub committee. Why hasn't it changed its name?
Jun 18th, 2016 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its deliberations can be characterized in various ways. First, if we consider a state such as China, it clearly has too many diplomatic personnel and is hard pressed to find something supposedly useful for them to do. In addition, we can surely see a wish on the part of China to stick its nose into anything it can, even on the other side of the planet.
Next, for a number of delegations, it's an opportunity to have yet another taxpayer-funded jolly. No doubt they take every option for acquiring tax-free goods. One can imagine the Venezuelan delegation buying additional bags in which to carry off their purchases of food and toilet rolls.
Then there would be a clear recognition on the part of some states that, unless they push themselves forward, the world is likely to forget that they exist.
There is, however, an opportunity for the Falklands in these hearings. It may require hurried re-writing of speeches and photocopying. The address by the Falklands delegation will necessarily take a considerable time. The idea being to brand every argie lie as such, to correct every argie deliberate misstatement and to produce the appropriate evidence. For instance, the Falklanders could start by producing the evidence that the Islands were discovered and first settled by the British. The evidence that the spanish only bought the French settlement. The evidence that, in the 1770/71 Falklands Crisis, it was the spanish that backed off. That leaving a plaque to assert sovereignty was common accepted practice in the 18th century. That the argie claim, in part, rests on the fraudulent activities of one Luis Vernet. That his illegal settlement was destroyed by the Americans and the settlers were removed. That no argie ever remained on the Islands long enough. That, in 1833, the British only restored the previous legal position.
You can understand why the US has not paid any subs for at least the last two years given this load of crap on their land, but why are they allowed to keep their veto or even vote?
Jun 18th, 2016 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would prevent Obumma from arse licking the Argentines and he's VERY welcome to arse lick The Malevolent Midget Malcorra. Mind, her arse is that big it would take his attention off world affairs: that alone would be worth it.
Thanks, ChrisR.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't get that scenario/vision out of my mind now & still giggling.
It just proves 110% that the Macri Govt has exactly the same nasty belligerent and colonialistic stance over the Islands as the Kirschener Govt did.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The chaos of Venezuela today as about 100 times more important to South and Central America than a little perceived problem that Argentina believes in fantasy that it has and it will never alter anyway!
Combined pressure on Venezuela could make a difference.
There isn't a Malvinas case because the Malvinas don't exist.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who if any, has the authority to remove Gibraltar and the Falkland's of this list,
Jun 18th, 2016 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0can it be done. Can great Britain remove them.
@HughJuanCoeurs
Jun 18th, 2016 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly, the Malvinas DO exist - because of history the Islands were named originally Les Iles Malouines by the French from Saint Malo who named the archipelago thus. The Spaniards then used this example to call the islands Las Malvinas.
Thus officially the United Nations uses all three names in its official documents. The Falkland Islands, les Malouines and las Malvinas - depending on the language it uses.
@16 Alejo,
Jun 18th, 2016 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That may well be so, however most of us find the m word to be highly offensive.
lt is utterly forbidden in our household. And rightly so.
Agreed.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thursday 23 June, in New York, will be the first time that Malcorra attends the C24 annual session representing Argentina, when Falklands lawmakers will also be making their position before the Special committee.
Jun 18th, 2016 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, Malcorra will forsake her responsibilities regarding attending the OAS meeting on Venezuela so she can grandstand at the C24 annual session. The C24 is a blatantly partisan sub, subcommittee that produces the same predictable resolution each year ad-nauseum. By ignoring its obligations and responsibilities to ensure that the Islanders have the right to decide on their future, it has demonstrated that it is no fit for purpose. Despite the recent intervention of the SG of the UN, it steadfastly refuses to even visit the Falklands.
Yet Mrs Malcorra is prepared to waste her time with this corrupt excuse for a ‘Special committee’ instead of meeting her primary responsibilities.
But, observing Priority’s in its foreign policy has never been a strong point in Argentina.
Argentina is presenting her as a credible candidate to succeed Ban Ki-moon as SG of the UN! If she is the best they have got, it is no wonder that they are in such a state.
@17 Isolde
Jun 19th, 2016 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0You will, I hope, have noticed I used the word sadly. Also, for me they are the Falkland Islands.
@20 gordo1 or Alejo?
Jun 19th, 2016 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did you forget to login with the right name?
You answer Isolde @17 stating what YOU wrote but Isolde was replying Alejo @16, who actually wrote it.
Tut, tut. It is hard to keep up with multiple personalities, isn't it?
God, what is it about this site that attracts sock puppets?
Jun 19th, 2016 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's why so few people post on here these days. Mercopress doesn't give a sh!t as long as we continue to be clickbait.
I use Chrome on my desktop and Safari on my Macbook pro - no mystery!
Jun 19th, 2016 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16. Really? The Falkland Islands take their name from the Falkland Sound, a strait separating the archipelago's two main islands. The name Falkland was applied to the channel by John Strong, captain of an English expedition which landed on the islands in 1690. Strong named the strait in honour of Anthony Cary, 5th Viscount of Falkland, the Treasurer of the Navy who sponsored their journey. So Falklands has the best and oldest provenance. The word originally is quite inappropriate. And,as Isolde says, the m word is highly offensive.
Jun 19th, 2016 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks @24. I'm glad that so many people agree with the name Falkland rather than the not accepted (or acceptable) Malvinas
Jun 19th, 2016 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands,
Jun 19th, 2016 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland islands,
The British Falkland islands,
I don't see that other unpronounceable name anywhere, do you lot.
The Falklands, it sounds great, it looks great and it is great.
Interesting illustration of priorities. Missing a meeting on an important current
Jun 19th, 2016 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0issue, which might actually achieve something, to go to the C24 and give the same old speech and get the same old non-result as for the last 50 years.
How likely is it that she is skipping the OAS meeting on purpose to avoid antagonising Venezuela, given they have a vote on the next UNSG?
I use 3 different browsers on 4 different devices and yet still manage to use one login.
Jun 19th, 2016 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I needed a second login then it would use a variation of my current name.
Caught with a sock puppet Gordo. Just own your stupidity don't try and make excuses like Think and Yankeeboy did.
Your comments aren't really insightful or notable. All you've done is multiply that infliction.
Whatcha mean Skip....If I needed a second login
Jun 19th, 2016 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have a second login...
...that you have never ever used with a different name...
You only created it so that you could do double posts...if you ran out of space...
I believe you Skip....;-)))))
The UK will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's it, Voice?
Jun 20th, 2016 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok.
...The modern English are still not quite sure whether the people across the water are friend or foe. 'Our ancient enemies will never cease to be our enemies, as far as I’m concerned...'
Jun 20th, 2016 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0That lack of emotional attachment to Europe — and indeed the hostility that some feel — helps explain why the country’s citizens might be eager to leave even amid the overwhelming consensus of experts that a departure could be economically, politically and strategically disastrous.
...nationalism is generally regarded as a force for good
“The mood on the streets is quite aggressive,” said Bannister, a 61-year-old retired teacher who serves on the local district council. “If you say ‘Do you want a leaflet?’ people will say ‘You’re a joke.’ ”''
...Following the KILLING on Thursday of Jo Cox, a pro-E.U. member of Parliament, the country has begun to reckon with why the rhetoric of the referendum campaign — particularly on the “leave” side — has turned so hostile and divisive.
But as Bannister can attest, the well of anger and xenophobia in Britain runs deep, fed by politicians who demonize Europe to suit their own ends and tabloid newspapers that whip up nativist sentiment with headlines warning of migrant and refugee “invasions.”
Sam Winwright, 27, is the son of a British father and a French mother. But, proudly sporting a Seattle Seahawks cap, he said he feels more American than European.
“If it weren’t for immigration, my mum and dad wouldn’t have met, but Dover is getting full of people who aren’t from around here. They’re living on benefits and making it harder for me and my girlfriend to find housing.”
If Britain leaves, he said, those people will stop coming. And besides, he has never really trusted the Germans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/when-voting-on-brexit-emotional-ties-to-continent-likely-wont-be-on-brits-minds/2016/06/19/4224e6f6-324c-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop_b
The definition of a sick, twisted, shit society.
Hmm, Voice is filling in for Think again.....now where is El Think....important and busy time of the year for some in the UN. What with all those experts that are needed. Safe travels Think. ;-). Mum's the word.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0What kind of a society is it when:
Jun 20th, 2016 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Our ancient enemies will never cease to be our enemies
(for FOUR years I have been told by countless ANGLOS here that one should move on from the past, yet.... here THEY are, with mentality like the above)
indeed the hostility
(I thought aimless hostility was bad... here they are, with aimless hostility at Europeans who outside of Brussels bureaucrats have done nothing to the loser English Anglos, yet these Anglos have HOSTILITY towards them... why?)
“...nationalism is generally regarded as a force for good”
(any different from Fascist Italy? nope.)
“The mood on the streets is quite aggressive
(sounds like a third world cesspool situation)
”...Following the KILLING on Thursday of Jo Cox, a pro-E.U. member of Parliament
(IT IS a third world cesspool! Certainly killing of politicians for their views is not dignified of a place like Europe... so the Anglo English are right, they are not Europe... just not exactly the way they imagined :) )
the well of anger and xenophobia in Britain runs deep
(really? Now that's a news flash... I have been saying it here for 4 years! You're welcome Economist, Washington Post)
Sam Winwright, 27, is the son of a British father and a French mother said: ' If Britain leaves, he said, those people will stop coming'
(well, the epitome of pathetic, the son of direct immigrants trying to expel other immigrants and clear xenophobia)
Now imagine the above was about Argentina... what the comments about our society would be here by these absurd Anglos.
Britain should leave, they are just a baby 4th Reich. As I have said before.
Society wise, the English and the Saudis, Bahrain, etc, have much in common.
@34 nostrils,
Jun 20th, 2016 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You indeed have it bad.
But as an arrogant Anglo, l couldn't care less about you.
Just go away & die quietly, will you?
Thank ye kindly.♥
#34 One of the essential differences between the UK and Argentina is that in the UK a certain sort of idiot is giving impromptu on the street interviews to foreign journalists, where as in Argentina the same idiot would have been made a government minister, school teacher, judge, governor or mayor.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#34
Jun 20th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty stupid aren't you. You assume, because it can feed on your hatred, that ALL of the UK don't like Europeans. Utter nonsense, but again, what would you know.
All you have to do is look at the cemetery's of the British war dead in France, Belgium and Holland to see how we didn't care for Europe.
Anyway, you must be an utter twat to keep using stupid adolescent nom de plumes as you do.
Meanwhile Nostril, you lot are still in love withe Nazis...
Jun 20th, 2016 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thelocal.de/20160620/goerings-pants-go-for-3000-at-disputed-munich-auction-nazi
Was it you that bought Goerings underpants, or perhaps Think/ Or possibly VoiceofThink?
Good points, Clyde15.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since there is NOTHING to decolonize in the Falklands Islands, why in the devil are
Jun 22nd, 2016 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they participating in a UN decolonizing committee?
Philippe
40 Philippe
Jun 24th, 2016 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since the issue is predicated on international law, it is of vital importance to refute any claim by Argentina. Otherwise,
Argentina, admit it, you've had it & you've lost it.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bye bye.
No, you cannot have the Falklands,
Why?, because they are NOT YOURS.
Now just vamoose, disappear, scat, get lost.
40 Philippe
Jun 24th, 2016 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since the issue is predicated on international law, it is of vital importance to refute any claim by Argentina. Otherwise, such 'silence' could be considered acquiescence.
The carrier is all but ready,
Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the other one is well on course
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