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France wants strong immediate action from European Council if UK votes Leave
French economy minister Emmanuel Macron said on Saturday the EU should act quickly and firmly if Britain votes next week to leave the European Union. Britain’s EU referendum will be held on Thursday, with an EU summit set for a few days later on June 28 at which Macron said EU leaders should take a firm stand with regard to the UK. Read full article
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Jun 20th, 2016 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 020% of German car output is sold to the UK.
This highlights what is wrong with the EU. Why does there need to be acrimony? It highlights that the EU is all about threats and demands rather than a friendly union of nations. The UK wants to leave - so what?
Jun 20th, 2016 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“He who pays the piper calls the tune” is not a concept that Europe understands. Britain is the second biggest net contributor behind Germany and yet has far less influence than that contribution represents. Every time there is something “big” coming up the French and Germans have a meeting beforehand to decide their common position and then present it to everyone else.
@1
Jun 20th, 2016 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0No one is talking about “no ability to trade”. In the scenario that we “lost access” to the EU single market we would still continue to trade with them and them with us. The difference is that were would be tariffs and quotas imposed on goods and services.
I don't think the German manufacturers will be particularly worried either way. They already sell their cars in this country at a premium and there is enough badge snobbery to support higher prices for their products.
The INers are misleading to talk about “losing access” to the EU and the OUTers are naive to think the Germans will be pleading to maintain zero tariff access.
If we leave the economy is going to take a hit, the pound is going to fall, a lot of investment will stall and a lot of imported good will be more expensive. As a true patriot I am happy to take those hits in order to reclaim full sovereignty.
opinion polls currently shows 52% of voters in favor of “Leave” and 48% for “Remain”, excluding undecided voters.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 052+48 = 100%. Excluding undecided voters? If they are NOT in the total, where are they included in the poll ? Someone needs a lesson in arithmetic !
If we do leave then the Civil Service will need to be increased to employ more Customs officers with the introduction of new Custom's duties and preferences. The current establishment figures could not cope with the increased workload. Likewise, Border security.
However, a Brexit could be good news for out dairy farmers. As there is an over supply of dairy products in the EU, we could support our own farmers by buying their milk and cheese.
The Frogs are at it again!
Jun 20th, 2016 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0De Gaulle, the so called hero of France, knew that if Britain joined there would be a microscope of legality applied to the system, one that France still abuses without penalty.
As for Sterling falling it will be a short term phenomenon and will soon be over U$D 1.5 and climbing.
As for there is plenty of room for badge snobbery that may be true but very unlikely except for the very wealthy and in any event the German car makers will not want to risk even a small fall in income, no serious business does.
The truth of the matter is no-one really knows but it's business that pays for all the greed of the EU, even the pigs at the top of the pile won't want that to change.
Just remember the reputation of the French: lots of heated shouting but they always capitulate and in war throw their brand new rifles down into the mud, never to be fired, always have done, always will.
“The Frogs are at it again!”
Jun 20th, 2016 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Just remember the reputation of the French: lots of heated shouting but they always capitulate and in war throw their brand new rifles down into the mud, never to be fired, always have done, always will.”
A revolting example of pig ignorance and xenophobia.
Now, now ChrisR.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The French have had their ups & downs like all nations, including us.
France was a leading military power in the 18th century.
They fought well in WWI.
We all have our moments, Singapore 1942 was a low point for Britain.
No-one is immune.
Are Elaine and Chris a married couple that are currently going through a divorce?
Jun 20th, 2016 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 Eeewww. The thought makes me want to vomit. Not least because he is old enough to be my grandfather, but he is a nasty racist, xenophobic, misogynist Little Englander.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0France has been the first to step up to the plate in conflicts in recent history. Why do you think they are so often targets?
#5
Jun 20th, 2016 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Verdun.
So French economy minister Emmanuel Macron has not learnt the art of negotiation. More the tactics of threat and attempted dominance.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So whichever way it goes on Thursday, not a really useful guy to be in discussions with.
@Chris
Jun 20th, 2016 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The French participation in the rearguard that allowed the Dunkirk evacuation was as significant as our own.
The Free French battalions that were formed from those evacuees were amongst the most effective allied forces wherever deployed. Their performance in the Normandy invasion was second to none and in a different league to the bungling American forces.
Don't take your history from Hollywood.
@ 9 ElaineB
Jun 20th, 2016 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The thought makes me want to vomit.”
Try suicide and give us all a break.
@ 7 lsolde
“Singapore 1942 was a low point for Britain. No-one is immune.”
Yes, I agree, but it still doesn't excuse Vichy France.
@ 10 Clyde15
Agreed, there HAS to be an exception some time.
The fact is that the French just cannot be trusted in any serious matter.
Mons. Macron should not go around saying such things as ”The European Council should give the British an ultimatum about their intentions, and France’s president will be very clear about that,”
Jun 20th, 2016 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The word 'ultimatum' (which could of course be a mis-translation) has unfortunate connotations and he should be ashamed of himself for uttering it.
Whatever happens on Thursday it is not the finish of the issue just the beginning and that I suspect is what scares the EU and particularly the French and some other countries with their own right-wings becoming more prominent.
@13 You get more disgusting every day. You should be careful about your words online as you are crossing the line into criminal behaviour. You crossed the line to insanity months ago.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 “Whatever happens on Thursday it is not the finish of the issue just the beginning and that I suspect is what scares the EU and particularly the French and some other countries with their own right-wings becoming more prominent.”
This is quite true. As I mentioned before, if the result is 'leave' I think it will be the catalyst for more referendums in Europe. France is probably to most euro-sceptic country but they are currently in too much financial peril to leave.
Clearly some people have learned nothing from last weeks awful events and continue to trade insults and pathetic abuse.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as Mr Macron's demands are concerned, if the UK votes to leave, which seems increasingly unlikely, the Treaty allows a 2 year period for all these matters to be negotiated and resolved.
Jo Cox was a very special person loved and respected by all who knew her and my thoughts and prayers are with her Family.
@16 Indeed she was. She spent her adult life fighting against the small-minded, prejudiced, xenophobic like ChrisR. There are a significant number of far-right, gun-loving thugs around.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. I won't sit idle while ChrisR spews his prejudice, misogyny and racism all over this board. Neither should you. Neither should anyone.
I believe Jo Cox was also urged to commit suicide. She wasn't cowed by it either.
#13
Jun 20th, 2016 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The fact is that the French just cannot be trusted in any serious matter.”
You have heard the phrase“perfidious Albion” ?
@4. Where do you get the idea that the UK will have to employ more Customs officers. The import entry system is, to my knowledge, mostly computerised. Once the new rates and preferences are in the database any additional work will only depend on the number of manual entries. Manual entries are strongly discouraged.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11. Moreover he obviously hasn't read Article 50. Two years appears to be the minimum for negotiations.
@17. You do realise that some of the comments you make are just as objectionable as your perception of those made by ChrisR. You don't know his background or life history.
Just as a matter of interest, what have you done to fight against evil. As it happens, in terms of what it has done to Britain, I see the EU as evil. I thought the EU was supposed to be a multiple partnership. In which case, no member state should be any more important than any other. Why do France and Germany tout themselves as “leaders”? Why do some members get away with things when others are penalized. Germany's open arms to migrants is a breach of the Dublin Agreements. The French ban on British beef was illegal. Want to discuss “free movement” when the French get their tractors out and block roads? Ever hear about the Italians and the deliberate miscounting of olive trees. Come to think about it, what about the Spanish actions at the Gibraltar frontier?
Too easy to trot out “All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing.” How about “Do unto others as you would wish to be done by”?
@19 You have been around long enough to know ChrisR threw the first punches and made revolting personal comments from the first moment I disagreed with him about gun ownership. Would you have me take the punches and insults without complaint or response? How would he ever know how despicable he is if no one ever stood up to him?
Jun 20th, 2016 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I actually know rather a lot about him from his own words. He loves to talk about himself and has revealed a lot. What I didn't do was try to find a picture of him online for the simple purpose of ridiculing it. Guess who did that? Yes, ChrisR. The poor unfortunate woman he found was nothing to do with me and yet he still attacked her appearance. The man is nasty. His views are nasty. His methods are nasty.
And for the record, when you are pissed your posts quickly sink into the gutter. We have all seen it and remember. You are the last person to be criticising any behaviour here.
The French had mass desertions in WWI.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since the time of napoleon the only credible frog fighters were the legionnaires and the best of them were foreign scum or criminals.
@ 20 ElaineB
Jun 20th, 2016 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You have been around long enough to know ChrisR threw the first punches and made revolting personal comments from the first moment I disagreed with him about gun ownership.”
And Conqueror will know that what you have just posted is a tissue of lies or, to be generous to a hysterical female, your selective memory.
You chuck out the same old tripe including yet another 'warning' similar to the one where you advised me to 'push the keyboard away or suffer the consequences' or some such rubbish.
This is a public board under UYU Law, NOT Homeland Security or any of the other US terrorist (against their own citizens) site.
Anyway when have you ever taken ANYBODY'S ADVICE. I see your “spews his prejudice, misogyny and racism all over this board” is up and running again: you have used this phrase against others on here. I take it you are following in your mothers footsteps to 'stand up against whoever'.
Is it the case that the mental patterns you show on here runs in the family on your mothers side?
BTW to those who think remain has gained anything I will just remind everybody that the result of the poll is all that matters and there are going to be a few 'remainders' whose job depends directly on the EU largesse who will be out on their ears before too long. I wonder how they will be able to fly 'first class' then, that's IF they ever get another job.
@22 More sexist comments; you can't help yourself. I take advice when I seek it from people I respect. I have nothing but contempt for you and your nasty opinions.
Jun 20th, 2016 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What has 'flying First Class' got to do with Brexit? I am flying long haul First Class next week and it has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU. You are nuts with envy for anyone who has done better than you in life. And that is a LOT of people.
Kriz do you have horns?
Jun 20th, 2016 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What did you do to your girlfriend?
insert here
@19
Jun 20th, 2016 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0France and Germany are leaders in the EU because they are the two biggest countries, and because they are actually in favour of the concept. Britain has always joined in reluctantly and been unenthusiastic about the project, this hardly allows for a leadership role.
As for 'punishing' members, the EU really lacks any way to force countries to comply. Having invited the refugees, Germany have so far had no success in their plan to share them out among the other EU countries. And by the way, Britain has an opt out on taking any under the scheme. It's so unfair how some members get better treatment than others isn't it?
Of course the countries in the EU are not friends. They are all trying to get the best deal they can for themselves, just like countries outside the EU. I think if Britain was willing to take more of a leadership role, we would actually have quite a lot of support. Most people are not very happy with the austerity plan and Germany's refugee invite, it might well be possible to get some changes for everyone. But instead we're holding a divisive referendum and pissing off all our possible allies.
@25
Jun 21st, 2016 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you seen the audited accounts from the EU? It is just a gravy train. The remain campaign keep saying that the EU gives us subsidies, oh really. They actually condenscend to return some of the money that we give to the EU. Whilst living in Greece a few years ago, the Greeks were quite open about not paying taxes at all as no-one would be checking up on them. now look where that has got them, 45% unemployment and having to borrow to date 86 billion euros to pay off debts. LEAVE THE EU.
@25 “we're holding a divisive referendum and pissing off all our possible allies”.
Jun 21st, 2016 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should the UK people not have a say concerning their membership in the EU because that would be “divisive”?
Should the UK people not have a say concerning their membership in the EU because it pisses off “possible” allies?
Are you sure those are criteria for censoring a people's voice?
@27
Jun 21st, 2016 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Both the Referendum and associated debates and respective campaigns were inevitable and necessary. The atmosphere in which this conducted is another question altogether. Based on recent events I would say 'divisive' is an accurate description.
Baroness Warsi ( of Asian descent and Chairperson of the Conservative Party ) was until yesterday a LEAVE person. I put it to the board that she was from the beginning the race card to change sides if the REMAIN needed extra votes from the undecided. When Nigel Farage brought out his latest poster depicting a snake queue of migrants obviously Sub Saharan and of African origin she changed sides why?( They happen to be all black but very few EU citizens ) So the REMAIN campaign ( Camoron I would hazard a guess ) told her to change sides. Who in industry would employ a politician only the EU gravy train.
Jun 21st, 2016 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0#19
Jun 21st, 2016 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0From my recollections of the computerised Import Entry system, the examination of imported goods- (from outside the EU) -was passed from the ports to inland clearance depots or traders premises. In our local office , we found that our work load increased because of this while the staffing levels were being drastically cut. It benefited me because I managed to get out of the mad house with 40 years service before I was 60..
EU goods that are presently free from entry requirements or examination will be classified as imports the same as goods from China, Peru or India.
This will mean that the number of import entries required will double.
Their will be valuation questions, prohibitions, proof of origin etc.
The staffing of what used to be the Customs and Excise dept. has been cut to the bone on amalgamating with the Inland Revenue. We now have a department where nobody seems to know what they are doing or even what they are supposed to be doing.
However, you are probably correct. There will be no increase in staff. They will be told to “work smarter”and “target” examinations of goods.
When they moved all the staff from Prestwick airport to special examination teams in Glasgow, the word quickly got about that it was an open time for bringing whatever you wanted through the airport. Flights from the USA were filled with consumer goods and “funny substances” with nobody to stop passengers walking through. To be fair, there was an honesty box where you could declare what you had brought in. Guess what, it was full of rude messages.
@ 23 ElaineB
Jun 21st, 2016 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ I am flying long haul First Class next week”
We can only hope that your mobile PC and smartphone fail and we are spared more of the drivel you post, 95% of which is conjecture and lies.
Kris, how do you really feel about your old girlfriend?
Jun 21st, 2016 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't hold back.
Go out on a limb.
Huh?
@29 Interesting theory. I hold a healthy scepticism about both sides but you cannot deny that poster was highly offensive and bound to stir up hatred. Kinda like Farage, really.
Jun 21st, 2016 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have to wonder if Farage and Cameron had been muzzled if the campaigns would have been more factual and less scaremongering.
Did anyone else note that Macron referenced the “EU Commision” rather than the elected “EU Parliament” ?
Jun 21st, 2016 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This encapsulates everything that is wrong with the EU Project. Sod the elected representatives of 500 million citizens. Sod the democratic wish of its sovereign states - no, the EU Commission knows what is best for the people whether they like it or not. A few FAILED politicians doing secret deals behind closed doors is where the real power is. “Give me your dinner money or else !”
Why should Norway & Switzerland be FORCED to contribute to the EU budget and accept EU dictates merely to continue to trade with their neighbors ?
Why would anyone in their right minds choose to remain in such an organisation rather than freely determine their own laws & futures ?
Soros has to be loving this nonsense
Jun 21st, 2016 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 golfcronie, bushpilot
Jun 21st, 2016 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure the EU is a gravy train, that is one of the reforms I was hoping Cameron would push for, along with actually enforcing the rules on things like paying taxes and subsidies. I think we should try to fix the problems in the EU before abandoning it, and should try harder to get support from other countries that have the same issues with it.
I wouldn't be a big fan of the referendum in any case, but I would not object if the two campaigns would give people the facts honestly so we can make a rational decision. But instead the Remain campaign is all ridiculous hyperbole and doomsday scenarios, and the Leave is telling outright lies and stirring up hatred against immigrants.
Plus making a major decision when the vote is likely to be so close is a bad thing in itself. Whichever way it goes half the people will be unhappy with the outcome and everyone who voted the opposite way to them.
The Leave supporters also seem to be slipping into conspiracy theories eg #29 above, or claiming that Barack Obama said 'Britain would be at the back of the queue' as a favour to Cameron.
@34 McGregor
“Why should Norway & Switzerland be FORCED to contribute to the EU budget and accept EU dictates merely to continue to trade with their neighbors?”
Because they are getting the benefits of the EU, therefore they have to pay for them? They don't pay to be able to trade, they pay to be part of the free trade region, customs union etc. This is not the default state, most countries in the world have tariffs, quotas etc blocking free trade. If I order something from the US then I may have to pay customs fees on it, if I order from France then currently I don't.
@36
Jun 21st, 2016 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just Google Warsi Defection Unravels. This will show you what liars we have as politicians. She said she had changed sides , the lying towrag
“You are in or out
Jun 21st, 2016 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Out it may well be,
as for trade, it will continue,
so will rights and everything else that has previously been agreed,
it will take at least two years and in this time, not much will happen,
project fear again,
then again they vote to stay,
you will all have to wait.????
Google Daniel Hannan Brexit really very good value for leaving the EU
Jun 21st, 2016 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Independence day,
Jun 22nd, 2016 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it sounds good.
@40 It was a terrible film, I wouldn't bother. :)
Jun 22nd, 2016 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37
Jun 22nd, 2016 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I googled it, but didn't see anything that looked reliable. It sounds like she wasn't part of the leave campaign anyway, just in favour of it. No conspiracies needed.
@38
True, the leaving process takes two years. If the vote is for Leave, then it's almost guaranteed the pound and stock market will fall in the short term. Then there will be a lot of uncertainty while the politicians try and agree to terms, and also uncertainty in the Tory party as to whether Cameron can continue.
Businesses will have two years to consider whether to relocate in order to stay in the EU, and there will be reduced investment and less new jobs as everyone waits to see what will happen.
Almost no one denies that Brexit will be bad for the economy in the short term, the question is whether it will recover or possibly do better in the long term, or whether you are willing to accept a worse economy in exchange for less immigration / more control over our own laws.
Personally I think we have more in common with Europe than not, and we are all better off working together. If we get a close vote for Remain it will be interesting to see if it scares the Eurocrats into more reforms, and either way whether more countries will be holding their own referendums soon.
“ scares the Eurocrats into more reforms ”, don't think so. They will go on regardless. Maybe they should audit their accounts and show where all the money is going apart for in the pockets of the 10,000 “ Eurocrats” that get paid more than our Prime Minister
Jun 22nd, 2016 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 42 Scares Eurocrats into more reforms
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another triumph of hope over experience !
John Claude Junker made it absolutely crystal clear yesterday that Britain had got all it would get and there would be no further negotiations ! Remain may claim this is an ongoing process but they KNOW they are done. Any Remain vote will only embolden the Eurocrats - only a leave vote will stop them.
Sovereignty or Subjugation ?
Vote LEAVE! :o)
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Vote LEAVE, NOW.
Jun 23rd, 2016 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Leave it is........Interesting times.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yay! You Anglos have just done it!
Jun 24th, 2016 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have the destroyed the UK by saving it.
Or said in another way, you have just saved the UK by destroying it.
In either case, the UK is history, it is inevitable Scotland will go, and probably so will North Ireland once the massive encumbrance of being out of the EU while sharing a long border become clear.
48
Jun 24th, 2016 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't get too excited.
Nostril, shut up. We'll send you and VoiceofThink back to the dark country quite soon.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@48 nostril,
Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even England on its own is quite capable of handling Argentina.
So yes, nostril, shut up.♥
@51
Jun 24th, 2016 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your ships are melting in the sun now... wait till the EU and the financial markets in general are done with “England”.
There is always the USA of course.
£ and stockmarket recovering now and my grand on Brexit is now five, result!
Jun 24th, 2016 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@53 Well done.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently the losers and the 'luvvies' have taken to Twatter and the rest of the 'social media' of deadheads to complain about the British people who are losing their jobs to the money grabbing immigrants (family allowance for children not living in the UK will be over soon) and BEAT them by voting LEAVE that they want a rerun!
Jun 24th, 2016 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why they want to stay if the future is so cruel and scary for them is beyond me, why don't they go to la-la-land permanently?
Great week this week! Passed my UYU Class A driving test first time, one of my sons and his wife presented us with a gorgeous granddaughter and the LEAVE camp won!
Nothing will move for at least two years,
Jun 24th, 2016 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0article 50 needs to be activated first,
and Cameron has stated he will not activate this
so we may have to wait until a new leader is elected.
I am happy that the britons left, now I hope Scotland and Northern Ireland become free, and Spain starts a process to get back their land of Gibraltar.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A little something for all the millions killed and tortured in slavery by the colonial british regime. Until brits do ask for forgiveness and pay reparations, there can be no exception with them.
@57 In the words of Del Boy , “what a plonker!” How about you reimburse the Mapuche for Genociding their Ancestors as celebrated on your 100 Peso arsewipe?
Jun 24th, 2016 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear LukeDig so yesterday, just grow a pair of balls. I seem to remember that BA had black slaves, whatever happened to them? Pot kettle black springs to mind.
Jun 24th, 2016 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@55 ChrisR,
Jun 24th, 2016 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations Chris.
Baby names?
@57 LukeDig,
Be quiet niño, the adults are speaking.
57 LukeDig
Jun 24th, 2016 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0try again.
@57
Jun 25th, 2016 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@57
Well, LukeDig, I am not British, but I am looking forward to reading about your so called “country” falling into deeper economic distress. It will make sure that your plague of bipedal locusts remains impotent. (Much like you personally.) Can there be anything better than locusts starving to death? As for the Spanish, they deserve the same and more, and with a falling economy and no government, well... ;)
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@ 60 lsolde
Jun 25th, 2016 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Baby names?”
Just one: Robin.
Thanks for the congrats! :o)
The French and the rest are very eager to see us go,
Jun 25th, 2016 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so they will make it hard and will treat us like abandoned animals thrown out into the wilderness,
but it takes two to tango, and it works both ways,
merkle and her trade minister has already stated that there is no need for animosity or hatred,
they just don't want us to drag it out and perhaps encouraging others to ask for a referendum,
I think it will end peacefully ad good for all concerned,
unless someone throws a cat in with the Pidgeon's.
just saying like.
55 ChrisR
Jun 25th, 2016 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah!! Congratulations Chris!!!
You see? there is ssssssssssssssssooooooooooooo much WIN around at the moment!!
Take care, be well.
@ 65 toooldtodieyoung
Jun 26th, 2016 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks. :o)
#66
Jun 26th, 2016 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will now find out how old you really are ! Wait until she is three years old and will run you ragged. However, there are compensations,you can wind her up and pass her back to mummy and daddy !
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