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Macri will move in an armored car following an attack with stones
Argentine president Mauricio Macri will be moving in an armored sealed following this month's attack with stones during a rally in the city of Mar del Plata. The measure was announced by Security minister Patricia Bullrich who claimed political activists close to former president Cristina Fernandez of having organized the attack. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNo doubt the same lot which went after TopGear in Patagonia. Making some miles these kids! Well, if one likes Choripanes, that's the thing to do I guess...
Aug 16th, 2016 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wondered what CFK and her gang were doing these days.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only surprise is that it wasn't a bullet: hence the 'armoured' car.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0TMBOA is getting closer to jail or a bullet from the mafia to keep her big mouth shut.
Well...now she is being investigated for treason...: http://www.losandes.com.ar/article/piden-investigar-a-cristina-por-traicion-a-la-patria
Aug 16th, 2016 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Aug 16th, 2016 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MercoPress article says...:
“Macri will move in an armored car following an attack with stones”
However.... Macri's own police chief says that “There were no stones thrown at Macri”... in his official report...:
http://www.diariocronica.com.ar/156445-el-jefe-de-la-policia-de-vidal-dijo-no-hubo-piedrazos.html
http://www.diariocronica.com.ar/156445-el-jefe-de-la-policia-de-vidal-dijo-no-hubo-piedrazos.html
http://www.diariocronica.com.ar/156445-el-jefe-de-la-policia-de-vidal-dijo-no-hubo-piedrazos.html
http://www.diariocronica.com.ar/156445-el-jefe-de-la-policia-de-vidal-dijo-no-hubo-piedrazos.html
http://www.diariocronica.com.ar/156445-el-jefe-de-la-policia-de-vidal-dijo-no-hubo-piedrazos.html
Brainwash for the above commenting Turnips?
The authors of the first four comments above failed to read the whole article, which clearly shows the government claiming a stoning of the Argentine president vehicle that the police clearly denied.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At #5, El Think debunks the lie by providing abundant sources unmasking the “stoning operation.”
Truth is, people approached the presidential vehicle and hurled insults--but no physical attack existed.
However, the government needs to claim a violent attack to deligitimize the growing opposition to economic measures that are deeply hurting the economy.
The strategy is consistent with the introducing individuals in a pacific demonstration who will throw stones to anti riot police to justify ensuing represssion.
That's right, Tink, it's just good public relations and common sense to resort to travel by armoured car anywhere in Argentistan.
Aug 16th, 2016 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Aug 16th, 2016 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FALSE STATEMENT. “Macri's own police chief” is the Chief of the police of the Province of Buenos Aires governed by M. E. Vidal...Macri has no “own police”. We are a “republic” !!!...do you undertand the idea?
In additiion, while it is true that this chief mentiuoned that there were no stones the videos showed just the opposite.
#8 pgerman
Aug 16th, 2016 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“FALSE STATEMENT”
Attempts to muddy the waters won't change the main point, which is: the government attempted to install a physical aggression that did not exist.
No video shows stone throwing, German.
Nice try.
(9) Mr. Massot...
Aug 16th, 2016 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is actually one videoclip... showing one teenager... throwing one stone... about 500 meters from the place Mr. Macri drove by.... some 15 minutes after Mr.Macrl drove by.....
Brainwash anybody?
#10 Think
Aug 16th, 2016 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely. Hypocrisy detected.
Obviously, the government is at short of arguments and in need of using trickery.
The Macri administration is rapidly losing its initial popularity capital and is now turning to tricks to show citizen opposition as politically motivated.
TN even resorted to use a picture of a young woman in red jacket standing near the presidential automobile in Mar del Plata as being the same as another woman present during CFK's recent visit to Villa 31.
The attempt was to show that militant Kirchnerists would follow Macri around the country--which was shown as false information, of course. The two ladies were not the same.
(11) Mr. Massot...
Aug 16th, 2016 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well...
As a matter of fact..., there is a perfectly identified group that shows up on each and every of Mr. Macri's public appearances to clearly express their profound dissent with his policies...
That group is well known under the acronym...: P.U.E.B.L.O.
“There were no stones thrown at Macri”
Aug 16th, 2016 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe stones were thrown but they missed?
@ 12 - Tink “.....under the acronym...: P.U.E.B.L.O.”
Aug 16th, 2016 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Under the acronym P.O.P.U.L.A.C.H.O. D.E.S.C.E.R.E.B.R.A.D.O.
#14 Marti Llazo
Aug 16th, 2016 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The arrogant and elitist nature of the above comment speaks by itself.
Using the derogatory term “populacho,” this commentator attempts to show that he belongs to something else--perhaps some sort of elite that has nothing to do with the sweaty, disgusting crowds.
No surprising for a poster who has already declared his contempt and predicted permanent disaster for Argentina as long as the country is governed by...guess who...Argentines!
“Let them eat cake,” sniffs Marti, who probably is a member of Marie-Antoinette's entourage.
It's not likely that Macri would gain much by faking having stones thrown at him.
Aug 17th, 2016 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would be like advertising the masses are unhappy with him, to the point of violence.
Whereas, the K's would love to demonstrate their very violent opposition and disrespect for the President, as though they speak for 41m Argentines.
@16
Aug 17th, 2016 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe he wants a shiny new armoured car? :)
More seriously, the protests were certainly real and already demonstrate that the masses are unhappy with him. Possibly it would be an advantage to depict them as violent, rather than peaceful protesters?
Probably not the last word on the subject, but yesterday the federal court judge (Alfredo López) confirmed that there had been an impact of at least one rock or other projectile at the back of the vehicle.
Aug 17th, 2016 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- “Did!”
- “Did not !”
- “Did ! ”
- “Did not!”
And so it goes in the Serious Country.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1928801-un-juez-confirmo-que-hubo-un-piedrazo-contra-el-auto-de-mauricio-macri
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1928801-un-juez-confirmo-que-hubo-un-piedrazo-contra-el-auto-de-mauricio-macri
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1928801-un-juez-confirmo-que-hubo-un-piedrazo-contra-el-auto-de-mauricio-macri
Whether president Macri's car was impacted or not becomes irrelevant is one is to believe minister Bullrich statements that the armoured car was already being prepared as the alleged attack took place.
Aug 17th, 2016 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a broader point, however, the decision to fortify Macri is not exactly an excellent sign of increasing popularity.
Some would argue that it's preferable being an efficient head of state than a popular one.
But I fail to see why the terms “efficient” and “popular” would be mutually exclusive.
@19
Aug 18th, 2016 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haha, he really did just want a new armoured car.
And of course efficient and popular are not mutually exclusive, but there are several ways a Government can make themselves popular that are bad for the country in the long run. Eg starting wars, borrowing money to fund benefits or tax cuts, or saving money now by failing to do maintenance on infrastructure, which will be more costly to fix later.
A lot of short term thinking basically, but Presidents only serve for short terms.
“ Eg starting wars, borrowing money to fund benefits or tax cuts, or saving money now by failing to do maintenance on infrastructure, which will be more costly to fix later. ”
Aug 19th, 2016 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Evita K had a good 10 year run doing that.
25-30% inflation for years, Financial Default, growing poverty, 12m by the end of her term.
She refers to it as “The Won Decade”.
@21 'She refers to it as “The Won Decade” '
Aug 19th, 2016 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0We refer to it here as the Década Gansada.
For the sake of Argentina, it would've been better for the K to win the election so they would had to face the problems that they created. Sometimes I am not so sure if she did not select Scioli to run for president so they would lose as they did and blame somebody else.
Aug 20th, 2016 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#21 Kanye and #22 Marti
Aug 21st, 2016 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Absolute nonsense at best--fabrication and blatant lies at worst. Here's the true, documented (you won't find it in Clarin though):
According to the World Bank, “Between 2003 and 2009, the number of middle class inhabitants has been doubled in Argentina, from 9.3 million to 18.6 million...” (Published by the Buenos Aires Herald).
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/116820/world-bank-middle-class-now-rivals-poor-in-argentina
”In recent years, (Argentina) has focused on economic development with social inclusion...invested heavily in health and education, areas which account for 7% and 6% of GDP, respectively.
“Argentina was the top performer in the region in reducing poverty and boosting shared prosperity between 2004 and 2008...the country prioritized social spending through various programs, including the Universal Child Allowance, which reaches approximately 3.7 million children and adolescents up to age 18, 9.3% of the population.”
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/116820/world-bank-middle-class-now-rivals-poor-in-argentina
This is why the Macri administration's offensive to reset the social clock back is finding so much resistance. For a decade, citizens grew used to the politics of inclusion, and will not easily accept regressive policies. A recent demonstration against Macri released black balloons symbolizing the democratic duel.
The Joyful Revolution is in a bind.
Remember that the World Bank and other agencies used the INDEC figures in its assessments of all those wonderful things. But don't forget that the INDEC lied about it all, and generated false figures . The reality is nowhere near the pretty picture that CFK's ministry of misinformation falsely painted.
Aug 21st, 2016 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0#25 Marti
Aug 21st, 2016 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While slight errors were possible, to suggest that the World Bank would blindly use grossly distorted figures with no checks is quite a stretch.
A realistic and unbiased assessment will acknowledge the progress done in terms of redistribution of wealth, inclusion measures and strenghtening of the domestic sector achieved during the Kirchners' governments while recognizing the economic slow dow of the last few years.
However, propagandists such as Marti prefer using the Macri administration argument of the “heavy inheritance” to convince the public opinion about the need for their current crude measures to redistribute the national income to the benefit of the ultra wealthy--with the implied promise that the wealth will eventually trickle down to the poor.
Those measures started by a multi-billion gift to the agro-export sector by lifting the export tariffs, the de-fact devaluation of the peso by 40 per cent that is behind the current high inflation, the quashing of the tax to wealth, and the closing down or fund-starving of many public agencies of protection to consumers.
Neo-liberal ideology and wealth concentration at its best.
(26) Mi nunca bien ponderado Sr. Massot...
Aug 21st, 2016 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say, quite correctly...:
“”“ However, propagandists such as Marti prefer using the Macri administration argument of the HEAVY INHERITANCE””“...
I say...:
When did I read that ”“”HEAVY INHERITANCE“”“ argument before ???
Maybe in Clarin in the year 2000 ???...:
”“” El Presidente aceptó la pulseada. Y para defenderse reflotó argumentos vinculados con la PESADA HERENCIA RECIBIDA a los que suele apelar cada vez que necesita justificar las dificultades del Gobierno para superar la recesión y reducir el desempleo “”“
http://edant.clarin.com/diario/2000/10/19//p-00701.htm
Or maybe was it Clarin in the year 2003 ???...:
”“” Una PESADA HERENCIA que condiciona al próximo gobierno “””
http://edant.clarin.com/diario/2000/10/19//p-00701.htm
They ain't very original them turnips, are they.???
Tink, actually I have never used the expression heavy inheritance/pesada herencia but if it pleases you then by all means allow your heavy inheritance of a heavy imagination to run wild.
Aug 21st, 2016 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you confused a reference to a hopelessly toxic cultural heredity with heavy inheritance. This may be difficult for you to distinguish.
If you find someone to help you understand what I have presented, it generally boils down to the indisputably accurate observation that neither peronismo nor macrismo nor cualquier ismo argentino is capable of competently and decently running the country, nor would the argentos even allow the country to be well managed.
Mr. Massot, Mr. Turnip;
Aug 21st, 2016 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Amusing, that you chastise Mr. Llazo for blaming Argentina's malaise and economic ills, on the recently deposed 12 years of government by Evita K and the Peronists (sounds like a bad 50's rock band).
More amusing that you yourselves blame Argentina's devolution to a tragic economic state and culture of unproductive stagnation, on Menem's government of 20 years ago, and even further back to Thatcher and Reagan!!
They must have had quite an influence over the naive people and Evita's K Peronists of Argentina, if the K's could do nothing over the past 12 years but increase poverty, bankrupt the Reserve and lurch from Default to Default.
The Kirchner Populist success story!
#29 Kanye
Aug 22nd, 2016 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0You may try as hard as you can, but the mood is rapidly shifting in Argentina. Taxi drivers, who used to listen to Radio Mitre all day long and were notoriously vocal against the Kirchner government, are driving silently now. Some are beginning to criticize Macri. Even the tone in the Comments section in Clarin and La Nacion is slowly but surely changing.
The dominant media campaign that includes daily front page stories with large headlines telling the “news” often recycled about new discoveries of “la ruta del dinero K” are losing their effectivity.
Received wisdom sentences of the sort of “the K's could do nothing over the past 12 years but increase poverty, bankrupt the Reserve and lurch from Default to Default,” are beginning to ring hollow to most. Why? Because propaganda only can work for only so long.
In the end, the effects of the “Restaurador” Mauricio Macri on the day-to-day life of the people is going to catch up with the author of the Joyful Revolution.
And same as after 1955, the people are going to begin comparing and saying, “nobody gave us the same,” the same being just a dignified life.
Dont tell me you believe your own propaganda, Mr. Righteous Ideologue?
Aug 22nd, 2016 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If anybody believed that you can change the direction of a country in 8 months must be checked in the head. The average Argentinean believes in magic and in fables. The only way Argentina will become reputable country is by having one entire generation suffer and work hard. The Argentinean spends more time talking than doing and wishing that acting, therefore that is the type of country that they have: an incredible past with the most promising future.
Aug 22nd, 2016 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#32 “ ......the type of country that they have: an incredible past with the most promising future....”
Aug 23rd, 2016 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong country.
Argentina sports an incredibly sordid past and a most dubious future.
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#32 John
Aug 23rd, 2016 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0John: The story about “you must suffer and work hard now in order to gain happiness later” is as old as Capitalism.
It's related to the “trickle down” theory purporting that the rich must get richer so some of their wealth will inevitably befall on the populace.
Marti (#33), for example, is making a living in Argentina but spends a significant amount of time writing about how bad the country is.
He is, of course, not alone in his sport. Many Argentines have spirited their wealth out of the country through off-shore bank accounts.
Milking the cow and getting mad at it when it lashes its tail is typical of such individuals.
Watching somebody buy a vow, care for it, and feed it, then getting mad when they milk it and you don't get a share - typical of such individuals as yourself.
Aug 23rd, 2016 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 ” Marti (#33), for example, is making a living in Argentina but spends a significant amount of time writing about how bad the country is.”
Aug 23rd, 2016 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or at least that is consistent with Reekie's wild imaginings. I'm actually a fabulously wealthy and handsome 25-year-old Chinese plastic surgeon living on a yacht by my own island in the Caribbean and I just scribble here for entertainment.
I made a good deal of money in Saudi Arabia, too, and given the right forum, I could probably write 2.5 million words on how bad that country is. Ergo, just because you might live and work somewhere, that is no reason to overlook the mountains of shite and malfeasance that surround you.
Reekie probably won't understand this, but people here espirit their money out of Argentina because the country's populist governments have a proven record of robbing the residents of their savings, and when not engaged in direct theft, Argentine governments produce some of the world's highest levels of inflation, which reduces many forms of peso-denominated wealth to nothingness.
In the 12 years of Kirchnerism, the inflation that they created came to over 1000 percent. When this is the gift your populist government provides for you, reasonable people, whether wealthy or not, convert worthless pesos into dollars and place them outside the reach of the thieving claws of corrupt Peronist governments. Of course, Kirchnerist officials also convert worthless pesos into dollars but sometimes throwing them over the convent wall doesn't keep that stolen wealth out of the hands of the government.
#36 Marti
Aug 24th, 2016 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marti has not, apparently, read any news since last year and therefore he is under the belief that CFK is still president.
Come on, Marti, wake up. Flashnews: Argentina has a president named Mauricio Macri since Dec. 10, 2015.
Many things have happened since that time: The new president has been dealt a serious blow by the Supreme Court, which forced the suspension of increases of natural gas tariffs to residents and the holding of public hearings.
Indec has reported that unemployment has increased to 9.3 per cent in the second trimestre of 2016, from 6.6 per cent in the April-June period last year.
Macri has succeeded in prompting unity among the three main union federations into one CGT.
Macri has complained about workers' absenteism and the courts' excessive number of laboral disputes ruled in favour of employees.
Macri also said the foreign investment “is beginning to come.”
During the first semester of 2016, the activity of Food and Drinks fell 5.6 per cent in relation to January-June 2015.
So much happening, Marti. Take a look. The present is fascinating.
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