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A Mercosur/EU trade agreement will not include UK, warns European Parliament president

Wednesday, August 24th 2016 - 06:06 UTC
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The president of the European Parliament Martin Schulz said in Buenos Aires that if finally a trade and cooperation agreement is reached between the European Union and Mercosur the United Kingdom will not benefit as a consequence of Brexit. Read full article

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  • LEPRecon

    Well Mr Schulz since we won't be tied down by pointless and overly complicated EU red tape I'm sure we can make separate arrangements with countries in South America...or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

    I mean just how long have these 'negotiations' been going on between the EU and So Am? Since 1999! Years and years (17 and counting) of pointless talk with either one member of the EU (well mainly the French) blocking any agreement as they fear it would harm their domestic market.

    So Mr Schulz, the UK will go from strength to strength, making trade deals with whom they want, when they want, and won't have the constant headache of petty infighting as currently happens in the EU.

    I'll bet the UK has trade deals with So Am long before the EU does.

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Exactly.

    Big whoopdy doo, Mr. Schulz!

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Who cares a twopenny ***** what this guy says - he actually has no final say anyway! Has he canvassed UK public and commercial trade opinion before he spouted? - No - of course not - but then he IS in fantasy land at the moment(Argentina) so naturally he is full of fantasy!

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Who cares, Schulzie?

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    This doesn't make much sense. It's EU protectionism over agriculture that has caused this decades long delay.

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • merlin

    Since the UK is still,currently,part of the EU,and will be until we execute article fifty at least this is just another pointless spat against the UK because we dated to tell the EU that whilst we might agree with its principles we most certainly do not agree with its current practises.
    M

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    It would be a greater disappointment for Mercosur ...Never happen anyway; too simplistic a view. This decalartion is probably for home propaganda purposes

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    So the UK will be excluded from a EU / Mercotossers agreement?

    Good!

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Uk is not Europe. USA are!

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo01

    @9 Brasileiro

    Como sempre este é lixo absoluta!

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Thanks!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eavXRwrkVSQ

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Aggggggggggggggggg

    the United Kingdom will not be part of the accord. This is a great disappointment, said the German lawmaker
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    When are these stupid brainwashed dictators ever going to listen,

    Great Britain will make its own trade deals without German say so.

    The British voted out,
    and as soon as may is released from the asylum, she might push that bloody red button,
    so they say...

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Squatters (3)&(4)...
    Well..., well..., well...
    You two obviously do care...
    Squatterette Isolde has, f. ex. become 20% poorer in Vatus...
    Where was it you had your summer residence, squatter Islander1?

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    MegaSquatter Think,
    Fye, l'll say it again:- “Who cares, Schulzie.”
    & because you seem so interested, l hold very few Vatus.
    Gold & Silver Bullion,££££££s,USD & Chinese Yuan though, l have in abundance.
    Anything else that you would like to know, Squatter?
    btw-when are you RG Squatters going to give Patagonia back to the few surviving native peoples who you stole it from?
    And when are you RG Squatters going to give Paraguay its land back?
    Land, that again, you RGs stole.
    Soon?
    Sure.

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Mr. Think,

    What are you talking about?

    A bitter personal attack, but do tell us, what do YOU 'surmise' about this statement from the EU's Mr. Schulz?

    Is he just playing to the gullible provincials and outsiders of Mercosur?

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    A rather strange thing to bring up. Not obviously relevant and not necessarily true either, since it's not certain Britain will leave the single market and customs union, at least not straight away. If it's still in those when (if) the deal is done then Britain will benefit from the free trade deal, even if we no longer have a say in negotiating it.

    Aug 24th, 2016 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Sooooo....What's being traded in this deal that I'm going to miss out on...?
    It's not bio fuel, soy and beef is it...because I don't use any of those...

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Sooooo.... Not missing Southamerican beef, fish & fowl, huhhhhh...?
    What about some rosewood for ya chanter and drones?

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Ah, Think the contrarian, I don't believe we will miss anything.

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    I only eat white meat Mr. Think...less fat, keen on prawns, do they export chicken here...?
    African Blackwood for chanter and drones it's much harder than rosewood almost like ebony, need a metal lathe to turn it...

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    I can just imagine the Regimental Pipers going into battle, wailing away on the pipes.
    Followed by their loyal Batman, dodging shot, dragging the metal lathe and pipe repair kit behind him.

    Why does Mr. Think bring up bagpipes in the first place?

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Poor Martin, he does loathe the UK so. We do understand what leaving the EU means. Is he so glib about the fact he is about to lose 17% of the EU budget that we wont be paying anymore.

    I see they are still very keen to include our Olympic medal tally in the EU. Very pleased to be leaving this defunct outfit.

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    A EU/Mercosur trade agreement will not include the UK, thank fuck for that. Wunderbar me old fruit.

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    Maybe you European foreigners would like some Argie cola...?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLFpaXuA7V3fKGmpG7InG1Ox38MV_lc1RD&v=eXvXwynJVcI

    Chuckle chuckle...

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MK8 Torpedo

    @24
    No thanks,it would leave a bitter tast and go flat quickly.

    A bit like your economy and armed forces.

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Should the bloke who brought the stuff in not be charged with the importation of dangerous chemicals ?

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    More Argie Kola for them Kelpers...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OrqmLGhCHLE

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Britain leaving the EU is the least of their problems if Trump gets in,

    Especially if he reduces American forces and reduces its commitment to NATO,

    That is what he was proposing.

    Aug 25th, 2016 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    This: https://twitter.com/HeatherWheeler/status/767756321219379201

    I first heard about this on NPR at the time of the 'Brexit' fiasco. I didn't believe at that time but here it is in color!

    Note that, on the background map, the British are claiming the original 13 colonies - including, bizarrely, Florida and Alabama. Does this claim constitute a hostile act by the British against the US? Should the US invade the UK, and the other British countries, and install a proper republican form of government in order to defend against this aggression?

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @29. It's a complex thing that you uncivilised, rapacious, thieving provincials are incapable of understanding. It's a combination of a rejoinder and a joke.

    You see, the EU is similar to argieland. Ever keen to puff out its pigeon chest and claim credit for everything. Much like Rompuy Pumpy tried to claim credit for the conclusion of the Libyan civil war. What a shame that the majority of the participants weren't members of the EU. And that one, Italy, tried to pull out and interfere with the operations of the majority.

    So, along with the conclusion of the latest Olympics, (Is it true that medals were awarded for getting out of Brazil alive?), the EU decided to claim how high it would have rated if it had fielded teams made up from European medal winners. It might have been an idea if the EU had counted how many of those medal winners were British.

    So an MP responded in a similar fanciful manner. Was it not ludicrous for the EU to lay any sort of claim to British medals when the UK is leaving the European dictatorship?

    Incidentally, I see no sign of the United States whingeing. Why are you?

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #30
    Incidentally, I see no sign of the United States whingeing. Why are you?

    Because that is the duty of an Argie. Troll.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @29 Hepatia
    “I first heard about this on NPR at the time of the 'Brexit' fiasco. I didn't believe at that time but here it is in color!”

    You saw a graphic showing 2016 Olympic Medal counts back in June? I hope you placed some bets!

    For your information (actually more for anyone else's) the map was grabbed off Wikipedia and shows all land that was ever part of the British Empire.

    The tweet is a joke in rather poor taste, but since the US is not peopled entirely by histrionic morons, I don't see why they'd care.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @29 Hepatia,
    Why should any Anglo-American business bother an Argentine troll, like yourself?
    Haven't you got enough to worry about?
    Like where your next meal is coming from?
    Or will you have electricity in your hovel, tonight?
    Or even will you be robbed?
    ldiota!

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Its been revealed that Bagpipes are bad for your health. Nasty germs and viruses lurk in pigs bladders and thrive in African Blackwood. The effects can result in a disease that addles the brains, shrinks members and nuts and leads to verbal Diarrhoea. Through close association looks like Stink caught it too.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #34
    You are perfectly correct in that statement, however, if you want to be fair, which you never do, all woodwind and brass instruments can harbour diseases.
    As soon as you blow into any musical instrument, the expelled vapour from your lungs attaches to the tubes and crevices - it is also known as “Saxophone lung”
    Even the humble mouth organ can cause problems.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Clyde, its the bag thats the special problem. Harbours the residue of bad breath… Otber wind instruments are easier to detox.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Mr. Turnip and his loyal cronies would be more properly tagged as 'baggers rather than Pipers.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #36
    Yes true BUT it is a condition known to pipers and care must be taken to keep the chanter, drones and bag clean. More damage is done to hearing from the volume generated by the pipes. I noticed that at the world championships in Glasgow a week ago, that many bandsmen were using foam earplugs.
    Trombonists, saxophinists and flautists especially have to be careful as the mould can build up unless they are kept scrupulously clean.
    Especially for the saxophone which is a plumber's nightmare.

    On the same tack, a computer keyboard is another spreader of diseases.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    34
    What century are you in...pigs bladders....
    I have always used a Canmore pipe bag...
    They are a breathable gore tex fabric...
    The air you blow in comes out of the chanter and the drones...not the mouthpiece you buffoon...the air you blow in never comes back to the mouth....unlike other woodwind and brass instruments....
    ...the chanter has a reed and each of the drones have a reed, air is forced through them at great pressure then it closes like a one way valve....
    The average person would not be able to actuate all four reeds at once it requires developed lungs and hardened lips to create the pressure...
    Which in turn keeps you fit...
    I also have a moisture trap to prevent moisture collecting inside....from the breath....
    Diseases...I think not...
    Stick to what you know about....
    ....wait a minute....

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (39) Mr. Voice

    Call me biased..., but I still Think that Latinamerican hardwood drones sound warmer and mellower than their African black cousins...

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    39

    Thanks, 'bagger

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Well Mr. Think...I'm not going to pretend that I'm familiar with rosewood...
    As I have never heard the comparison, they would be a bit of a rarity here...
    I can imagine drones being made of rosewood, but not a chanter....
    The chanter would probably wear rapidly as the chanter is literally wiped and rubbed to create embellishments (gracenotes) a series of very short rapid notes 1/64th of a note long...especially the low A/G Birl...(gotta roll the R with that word)...
    Hense. why the preferred wood is the very dense Blackwood...
    ...but I'll certainly take your word for it as the Great Highland Pipes do have a very harsh sound to them....and can be heard from quite a distance...
    ...the old pipers joke......“Can ye play ....O'er the hills and far away”....;-))))))

    41....you mad bro....?

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    42

    Are you, 'bagger?

    “hense”?

    “birl”?

    You must be illiterate as well as angry.

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    ...fcukwit...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGwLwunE2u8

    Aug 26th, 2016 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    You mad, 'Bagger?

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #42
    I think this answers your question.

    “Bagpipe Materials To Avoid

    Materials to avoid are rosewood, cocuswood, boxwood. African blackwood is ideal, and other tonewoods like cocobolo and mopani are being used with great success in smallpipes and as mounts. If you're unsure, check the country of origin. High-quality African blackwood Great Highland Bagpipes are manufactured almost exclusively in the United States, United Kingdom, and Canada. The old adage ”You get what you pay for“ definitely applies here. ”

    The problem is not so much tone but stability of the wood when turned.
    African Blackwood is the best.

    Anyway, Brazilian rosewood is protected by CITES and virtually unobtainable.
    I had a set for a guitar which I got in 1967 but passed it on to a guitar maker in Glasgow when I finally realised I did not have good enough woodworking skills to make a guitar.
    Indian rosewood-a different species- has replaced Brazilian rosewood as the wood of preference along with Madagascar rosewood which is now protected.

    Are you going to the Cowal games today ? The weather looks OK.
    If it's a windless day, the chances are that I may hear the 1000 pipers play from 37 miles away.
    Are Inveraray and district going to win the Argyll shield ?

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC (and to Lowlanders in particular)...

    Said to have been..., it has been said that bagpipes are not an Albian creation, let alone an Albian singularity....

    http://www.seivane.es/es/nuestras_gaitas/index1.html

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Cowal Games? Too close to Dunoon… Men in skirts! Blowing unhygenic instruments. Foul sounds. Tossing the log. Prefer something more civilised. Are you 'Thinking' of going?

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC
    By the way...
    No need to wear a skirt to play decently...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ioTUmP9qYVI

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Ah...Mr. Think...
    A whole different ballgame...they are totally different from the Great Highland Pipes...
    They are played with the fingertips like a flute and have different and extra hole position...also a lot less pressure more like the Irish pipes that folkies play...
    They look like a cross between the small pipes and the uilleann pipes...
    Only two drones as well a bass and one tenor....
    Nice sound....

    46
    The weather is perfect...I only ever watch the parade through the high street...
    Your guess is as good as mine who will win...as I haven't been following the form Dunoon is teeming and there is a huge cruise liner sat in the Holy Loch...

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (50) Mr. Voice...

    Not sooo diferent sound, lad...
    Just a wee more Celtic Soul and a wee less United Kingdom Militaristic Pomposity... ;-)

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    50, 51,

    Speaking about droning.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    51 Mr. Think
    ...yeah...I can do pompous, you've seen the pic....;-))))

    52....you be foreign chappy.....
    If you weren't...it would be something like.....“Talk about droning...yawn...”

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #51
    The Argentinians do pompous...we do elan.

    The ship is the Saga Saphire with a few more cruise liners due in Greenock shortly NOT greeted by burning tyres.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    More droning

    You mad, 'Bagger?

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    54
    Yeah you are right the name is displayed...
    It was here yesterday and overnight...the tourists were welcome Piped at the Marina Pier in Sandbank and the little boat has been going backwards and forwards all day...
    They've had great weather and a tremendous view of Benmore...probably won't be so happy at Greenock...who would....

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Who cares what Mr. Schultz says or believes ? he's just an idiot.
    By the time the EU and the Mercosul manage to reach an agreement, IF they ever do, the UK will already have signed trade agreements with the countries of South America that matter...

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The unmighty EU will still be talking,
    whilst the brits would have agreed trade by themselves,

    The EU has a lot of work to do, as stated this week, they were only awaiting for us to go , so they could move forwards,

    We will see how far they really get.

    Aug 27th, 2016 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/08/24/a-mercosur-eu-trade-agreement-will-not-include-uk-warns-european-parliament-president#comment447539: And look at the comments which nail the Brits motivation: http://en.mercopress.com/2016/08/24/a-mercosur-eu-trade-agreement-will-not-include-uk-warns-european-parliament-president#comment447539:

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Mr. Clyde,

    I have a friend in Greenock with a business.
    Is that near you?

    He sends quite beautiful photos of the area.

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #60
    It is about 80 km north of me by road and about 8 km east of “Voice” in a straight line. The town grew up as a port for Glasgow in the 18th century and became industrialised in the mid 19th century with ship building and sugar refining as the main industries. The town could not be described as beautiful but it is not far from areas which are.

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Thank you, Mr. Clyde,

    I don't know much about the area.

    He talks of the RN ships that he sees, and there are photos of somewhat more rural settings.

    He has a successful business based in Greenock, however.
    Photography is his hobby, and he likes to travel around for shoots. I would expect that he only shows me the best bits.

    Still, I'm sure it would be interesting to see, one day.

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McGregor

    “I noticed that at the world championships in Glasgow a week ago, that many bandsmen were using foam earplugs”

    Clearly heard themselves play before.... :-)

    Aug 28th, 2016 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/08/24/a-mercosur-eu-trade-agreement-will-not-include-uk-warns-european-parliament-president#comment447757: Fortunately, there are a few sane responses: http://en.mercopress.com/2016/08/24/a-mercosur-eu-trade-agreement-will-not-include-uk-warns-european-parliament-president#comment447757:

    Aug 29th, 2016 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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