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Malcorra summoned to Senate to explain Falklands' clauses in the joint statement

Saturday, October 1st 2016 - 02:55 UTC
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Foreign minister Susana Malcorra is scheduled to attend the Argentine Senate next Wednesday morning to expand on the recent Argentina/UK joint statement, particularly the South Atlantic chapter which deals with the Falkland Islands and alleged softening of the Argentine sovereignty claim. Read full article

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  • Marti Llazo

    “...“the legitimate and imprescriptible Argentine sovereignty over the Malvinas, ...”

    I had to look up “ imprescriptible.”

    I thought it meant “greatest imaginable extent that a failed third-world backwater can sink to in its unerring quest to become an indisputably legitimate laughingstock .”

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo01

    The left hand doesn't seem to know what the right hand is doing!

    ¡Qué quilombo!

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    They are still working on the usurpation and the numerous UN resolutions theme.

    Poor things.

    https://www.academia.edu/21721198/Falklands_1833_Usurpation_and_UN_Resolutions

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    F**k me, do they never learn, I suppose it is impossible to learn if you are Latam. Mention the Malvinas and all and sundry leap around like headless chickens , they have been indoctrinated since birth. In fact, as they were still in the womb their parents were probably chanting “Malvinas son Argenetinas” poor dears.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    “Malcorra's summons was first requested by opposition Senators loyal to ex president Cristina Fernandez ”

    OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

    You have to admit it's very like 'Alice through the looking glass' without the intellectual bits. :o)

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Miles away: What the hell does Argentina have to do with claims for South Georgia and Sandwich islands.. let alone the Falklands....

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Say nuffink and admit nuffink.
    Its was someone else's fault,lol

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Typical Macri's way of doing things: look the other way, pretend nothing is happening, and deny, deny and keep denying.
    However, this time things may have gone too far.
    Macri's attempt to make friends with the U.K. and softening his stance on Malvinas got to the front thanks to his monumental blunder on PM May's alleged acceptance to negotiate sovereignity.
    Macri's incapacity to grasp the most elemental concepts is only matched by his stolid ministers Prat Gay and Aranguren.
    This time we'll need to cry for Argentina.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    “Cry for Argentina...”? why?

    What did Macri say that was 'wrong' or untrue?

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    ¿Quien putas llora por Argentina? ¡Nadie! ¡Ni ellos mismos!

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @10 “¿Quien putas llora por Argentina? ¡Nadie! ¡Ni ellos mismos!”

    Lágrimas de cocodrilo.... para el eterno hazmerreír del continente

    esnif esnif [sonido de risa sofocada...]

    -----

    Now let us watch as the continued argie legislature infighting and baboon-like chest-pounding demonstrate one more time why no sane investor will come here.

    Oct 01st, 2016 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    @2 Gord

    The hands are doing their own thing mainly because the head is still jammed where the sun don't shine, and I don't mean Birmingham

    Oct 02nd, 2016 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #9 Kanye
    “What Macri say that was 'wrong' or untrue?”
    Come on Kanye. Read MP.
    Macri went to the U.N., bumped into May, talked for a minute, and came out saying May had expressed agreement to begin discussions over Malvinas.
    He was immediately corrected by both Malcorra and the London Foreign Office.
    Of course, cheerleaders such as you just happen not to find out about those things.

    Oct 02nd, 2016 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    According to this Senate, as their constitution says, Argentinian sovereignty is non-negotiable.

    Yet they call for negotiations on sovereignty.

    To be called a “negotiation” more than one outcome must be possible.

    If Argentina cannot, or will not, negotiate its sovereignty claim, it is not in a position to call for “negotiations”, as it has nothing to negotiate with.

    Not to mention that S. Georgia/S. Sandwich Islands, are a completely separate issue, one which the British have always offer to take to the ICJ for judgement.

    Which Argentina has always refused to do, tells you all you need to know really.

    Oct 02nd, 2016 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    13

    EM

    Sounds more like an honest mis-understanding rather than Macri being devious towards the Malvinas Islas and Argentine people.

    You can be sure he would have the full backing of his Foreign Minister if he was trying to pull off a stunt.

    Meanwhile, the political opportunists at home (and abroad) are jumping on him.

    Just some more of your “support” for Argentina's recovery?

    Oct 02nd, 2016 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    14 Pugol-H
    Agreed, very good point.

    Oct 02nd, 2016 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @14 PugolH

    A question that I've often asked Argentines and their supporters on MP and other sites is :

    “What will Argentina bring to the negotiating table”.

    They have all, bar one, either failed to answer or say something like “I can't speak for the Govt. of Argentina”

    The one who did respond suggested that Argentina “might just might” allow the UK to retain sovereignty of South Georgia.

    Oct 03rd, 2016 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 17 darragh
    Ask any salesman, what is the first rule of negotiation???

    You have to have something to negotiate with!!!

    As the Argy claim is overwhelmingly justified and righteous, it is obvious that the Brits just have to come along and give away at the table what they fought a war to keep.

    This will only end for them when Argentina accept the truth about the history of the region, and recognises the full rights of the Islanders.

    Probably not anytime soon then given their ability to believe what they want to, irrespective of any facts to the contrary.

    Oct 03rd, 2016 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Now that there are several billions in already-proven oil reserves within Falkland waters, and more millions to be made from fishery licences, with the islanders standing to become wealthier than 99 percent of the increasingly starving argies, the probability that the islands might be given up in any form to Argentina is indistinguishable from zero.

    A reasonable people might acknowledge the futility of Argentina's pointless aspirations, and endure a civil attempt to make small profits from cooperative efforts. But as we all know, “reasonable people” does not include the bulk of the Argentines.

    Las islas nunca fueron, no son, y jamás serán argentinas.

    Oct 03rd, 2016 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kanye

    Nothing further from M. Enrique Massot.

    He can't really believe what he posts, surely?

    Oct 03rd, 2016 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “A reasonable people might acknowledge the futility of Argentina's pointless aspirations, and endure a civil attempt to make small profits from cooperative efforts. But as we all know, “reasonable people” does not include the bulk of the Argentines”
    Agreed. If Argentina had any sense of realism, they would accept they have no claim, and instead try to make themselves richer, by getting some of the Falkland Islander's money, by Argentines working for them, providing services, selling the Islands goods=getting paid a lot of money.

    Therefore they would be getting 'oil/fisheries money' and benefitting from the Islands resources but in an indirect way.
    However, they prefer the SFA theory which states that if you can't have what doesn't belong to you, instead allow countries like Chile and the UK to benefit from the money the Falkland Islanders make and spend.

    There is a farmer I absolutely detest, but he was willing to pay over the odds for my grass. So I sold it to him. I still hate the ****** but I got money out of him that has benefitted me.

    Oct 05th, 2016 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Oct 06th, 2016 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    England doesn't have any malvinas, Heppie. Nary a one.

    Perhaps if you might someday become sufficiently solvent, the UK may be willing to sell you something very much needed in Argentina, such as vast quantities of Aripiprazol or similar antipsychotic medication.

    Use only as directed.

    Oct 07th, 2016 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    Within 25 years Argentina will be British.

    Oct 07th, 2016 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @24 Not sure even the British could endure the stink.

    I'm thinking that it will be the Chinese who take over substantial sectors of the Argentine economy and thus direct its domestic and foreign affairs.

    Or it might be the Somalians.

    Oct 07th, 2016 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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