Argentina again claimed Falkland Islands' sovereignty and called for bilateral negotiations, as indicated by the UN General Assembly, at the closing 33rd session of the Human Rights Council last Friday in Geneva. Read full article
At the UN Human Rights Council Argentina stated that the Falkland Islanders aren't entitled to 'human rights', because they aren't 'people'!
And they wonder why the world doesn't take them seriously!
Perhaps Argentina should actually start applying human rights to the indigenous peoples that remain in Argentina instead of breaking them, to the point where the UN Human Rights Council has got their beady eye on them.
The Argentine viewpoint is that paragraph 6 of UN Resolution 1514
(‘any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the Charter of the United Nations') cancel's the Falkland Islanders right to claim self-determination.
If this is Macri's idea of how to rejoin the international community and mend bridges with Britain, he is sadly mistaken.
Probably time to conduct an exercise demonstrating how quickly the 1,200 person Falklands garrison can be reinforced and squadrons of combat aircraft can arrive.
I would expect the 8,000 personnel of 16 Air Assault Brigade to have already had a heads up. Same for the RAF and the necessary combat, tanker and transport aircraft. The Navy, if it's not already there, can turn up in its own time.
Just an exercise of course. The Brigade and its equipment, including Apaches and other helicopters, Globemasters, Hercules, Voyagers and Typhoons.
15M Peronistas in denial of the truth HAVE to be told fairy stories to mollify them from pot banging in the streets.
It's the same with their constitution (see below).
@ 6
Strange people indeed:
CONSTITUTION OF THE ARGENTINE NATION (English Version)
FIRST PART
CHAPTER I
DECLARATIONS, RIGHTS AND GUARANTEES
Section 1.- The Argentine Nation adopts the federal republican representative form of government, as this Constitution establishes.
Section 2.- The Federal Government supports the Roman Catholic Apostolic religion.
Argentina again claimed Falkland Islands' sovereignty ,
Seems they are determined to mess up these new deals , talks and friendships that are being offered to them,
time to walk away I think,
you just cant help some who are determined to live in the past.
Well, if your argument is that Human Rights don’t apply in this case, then the UN Human Rights Council is probably the right place to make that argument.
Don’t think it will get much support however.
@3 Brit Bob
Difficult to argue a “Territorial Disruption” over territory which has never legitimately been Argentinian, in fact has been British since long before Argentina ever existed, in any form.
My cat also attended the same conference and demanded yes demanded cat sovereignty over Mousepotamia. Argentina immediately expressed it's support and said it would be sending it's crack army team of mousetrap setters to assist
And if Argentina placed in its fanciful constitution its claims to ownership of Baffin Island, Cueta, and Mongolia, that would make it so.....?
Argentina reminds us often that is is not only an endless band of thieves, but the perpetual laughingstock of the continent, unfit for commerce with the civilised nations, kept among us to provide the entertainment of eternal depravity and a showcase of petulantly juvenile behaviour for the 21st century. Argentina's trending to greater impoverishment and quaintly self-destructive nature mercifully keep it from becoming a threat to its neighbours.
@13 Chronic: Marti, is there anything positive that you can say about rg?
Absolutely.
1. Argentina has provided the best possible model for the North Korean propaganda machine to emulate.
2. Argentina makes Somalia look successful, tidy, and progressive.
3. The little restaurant at the Hotel Americano in Perito Moreno , in northern Sta Cruz province, and the Naos Restaurant in Puerto San Julián, on the coast, both offer surprisingly good food.
4. The monumento al esquilador just outside of Río Mayo is a decent piece of art, as is the Bridasaurio sculpture at one of the roundabouts at Pico Truncado, made from junk/castoff metal pieces from the local petroleum industry. Both pieces remind us of the artistic expertise of Mexican welders in Tijuana, Baja California.
If I think of any other similarly stellar points I'll try to pass those along.
I have met more Argentinos than you could count. You really are the most infantile and ignorant prat on these threads - you should be banned as all your posts are totally meaningless and contribute nothing to the debate.
@22
Let me educate you .
The United Kingdom is made up of 4 countries, namely ENGLAND,SCOTLAND, WALES AND NORTHERN IRELAND and foreign policy is made by the UK NOT and I repeat NOT ENGLAND ALONE, have you got it yet. So your comment in @22 is wrong on 2 counts.
Judging by the disappointment, MP commentators had been led to believe that Mauricio Macri would be able to soften Argentina's position regarding Islas Malvinas.
Not that he didn't tried gestures as a trial ballon--it did not work. No Argentine president will risk his or her political capital on such a thing.
You can keep yapping, but reality is, you will have to live with Argentina's claim for as long as it's unfulfilled.
Without counting that a Jeremy Corbyn may come to power at any time and shake things up.
@27 You can keep yapping, but reality is, you will have to live with Argentina's claim for as long as it's unfulfilled.
@27
If the Malvinas Myth claim is maintained for the next 10,000 years, so what?
What effect has claiming the Falkland Islands had so far?
I'll tell you, None whatsoever.
Argentina have no more chance of turning that claim into a Nazi style occupation, than they have for over 100 years, with the exception of 1982, when Argentina got what they wanted, for THREE months!
Just claiming the Falklands without having accurate and supporting history, or being able to overturn UN principles, more of which support the Falkland Islands than do not, is completely ineffective.
I for one am quite content to yap, because every part of the Argentine claim can be overturned by referring to historical events or using the rights of the Falkland Islanders.
I am quite happy, that every time a Malvanista gives a reason why the Falkland Islands should be Argentine, a poster on here is able to counter the claim, and the ONLY Malvanista response to a battering by referenced material is to say it's ours because it's in our country's heart or devoid of evidence, because we say so/were indoctrinated as schoolchildren.
I for one am happy to live with a claim that is completely ineffectual for as long as it is maintained.
Can I point out the blindingly obvious? It is Argentina that is not getting what it wants, not the Falkland Islanders.
@27 Enrique Massot
The status que suits Britain and the Islanders, Argentina is free to continue it “claim” as we are free to proceed with our plans for development unhindered.
Indeed Argentina is not in a position to “hinder” anything, much as it might like to.
If there is to be any change in this, then Argentina is going to have to come up with something, it’s a dead issue as far as the Brits are concerned.
My view, is that this will only end for you when Argentina accept the truth about the history of the region, and recognises the full rights of the Islanders.
Like I said, for the Brits, it’s already a dead issue.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesRight gobby tart, do they not know when they are beaten,they live in LaLa land
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let me get this straight.
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the UN Human Rights Council Argentina stated that the Falkland Islanders aren't entitled to 'human rights', because they aren't 'people'!
And they wonder why the world doesn't take them seriously!
Perhaps Argentina should actually start applying human rights to the indigenous peoples that remain in Argentina instead of breaking them, to the point where the UN Human Rights Council has got their beady eye on them.
The Argentine viewpoint is that paragraph 6 of UN Resolution 1514
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0(‘any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the Charter of the United Nations') cancel's the Falkland Islanders right to claim self-determination.
This viewpoint is pathetically weak: https://www.academia.edu/10906570/Falklands_-_Territorial_Integrity_and_Argentinean_Stance
If this is Macri's idea of how to rejoin the international community and mend bridges with Britain, he is sadly mistaken.
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Probably time to conduct an exercise demonstrating how quickly the 1,200 person Falklands garrison can be reinforced and squadrons of combat aircraft can arrive.
I would expect the 8,000 personnel of 16 Air Assault Brigade to have already had a heads up. Same for the RAF and the necessary combat, tanker and transport aircraft. The Navy, if it's not already there, can turn up in its own time.
Just an exercise of course. The Brigade and its equipment, including Apaches and other helicopters, Globemasters, Hercules, Voyagers and Typhoons.
Did anyone notice?
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Back to the shenanigans of la Kretina!
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of strange people they are.
15M Peronistas in denial of the truth HAVE to be told fairy stories to mollify them from pot banging in the streets.
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the same with their constitution (see below).
@ 6
Strange people indeed:
CONSTITUTION OF THE ARGENTINE NATION (English Version)
FIRST PART
CHAPTER I
DECLARATIONS, RIGHTS AND GUARANTEES
Section 1.- The Argentine Nation adopts the federal republican representative form of government, as this Constitution establishes.
Section 2.- The Federal Government supports the Roman Catholic Apostolic religion.
You must feel so at home.
Argentina again claimed Falkland Islands' sovereignty ,
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems they are determined to mess up these new deals , talks and friendships that are being offered to them,
time to walk away I think,
you just cant help some who are determined to live in the past.
Well, if your argument is that Human Rights don’t apply in this case, then the UN Human Rights Council is probably the right place to make that argument.
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don’t think it will get much support however.
@3 Brit Bob
Difficult to argue a “Territorial Disruption” over territory which has never legitimately been Argentinian, in fact has been British since long before Argentina ever existed, in any form.
Perhaps the rules going to the ICJ should be amended,
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the flatlands and Britain should force Argentina to attend,
or a judgement to be made in their absents,
just a thought.
My cat also attended the same conference and demanded yes demanded cat sovereignty over Mousepotamia. Argentina immediately expressed it's support and said it would be sending it's crack army team of mousetrap setters to assist
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if Argentina placed in its fanciful constitution its claims to ownership of Baffin Island, Cueta, and Mongolia, that would make it so.....?
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina reminds us often that is is not only an endless band of thieves, but the perpetual laughingstock of the continent, unfit for commerce with the civilised nations, kept among us to provide the entertainment of eternal depravity and a showcase of petulantly juvenile behaviour for the 21st century. Argentina's trending to greater impoverishment and quaintly self-destructive nature mercifully keep it from becoming a threat to its neighbours.
Marti, is there anything positive that you can say about rg?
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anything?
@7 Andy Kapp
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you are just showing yourself up as the idiot you are.
Just why should I feel comfortable with an idiotic quote from the Argentine nonsensical constitution? I abhor Argentina and most Argentinians!
@ 14 gordo01
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But they are your fellow fairy believers after all!
As for abhorring most Argentines just how many have you actually met, NONE?
There are plenty of Argentines who fled TMBOA living over here and I count many as friends.
None of them are RCC prisoners though, they all have brains.
I am glad you think of me as an idiot, it's way above an RCC imbecile.
@13 Chronic: Marti, is there anything positive that you can say about rg?
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely.
1. Argentina has provided the best possible model for the North Korean propaganda machine to emulate.
2. Argentina makes Somalia look successful, tidy, and progressive.
3. The little restaurant at the Hotel Americano in Perito Moreno , in northern Sta Cruz province, and the Naos Restaurant in Puerto San Julián, on the coast, both offer surprisingly good food.
4. The monumento al esquilador just outside of Río Mayo is a decent piece of art, as is the Bridasaurio sculpture at one of the roundabouts at Pico Truncado, made from junk/castoff metal pieces from the local petroleum industry. Both pieces remind us of the artistic expertise of Mexican welders in Tijuana, Baja California.
If I think of any other similarly stellar points I'll try to pass those along.
@16 Marti Llazo
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot La Brigada and Cabrera in BA, as well as the wine.....and the women, if they weren't so stuck up and neurotic.
Perhaps the rules going to the ICJ should be amended,
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the flatlands and Britain should force Argentina to attend,
[ Falklands ] Sorry.
@15 Andy Kapp
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have met more Argentinos than you could count. You really are the most infantile and ignorant prat on these threads - you should be banned as all your posts are totally meaningless and contribute nothing to the debate.
Argentina - lol
Oct 03rd, 2016 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 019. Not by a mile.
Oct 04th, 2016 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've got sock puppets, Reeeeeeeemie, Monkeys, Teri, Scipi . . . . . .
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Oct 04th, 2016 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Oct 04th, 2016 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wasn't it 20 years nearly 4-years ago? That would be 16-years now, not 25.
Do keep up.
Anyway England can't and won't, not in 16-years, not in 25-years, not ever. It's up to the Falkland Islanders and no-one else.
HEPATITIS!
Oct 04th, 2016 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong again! and again! and again!
@22
Oct 04th, 2016 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let me educate you .
The United Kingdom is made up of 4 countries, namely ENGLAND,SCOTLAND, WALES AND NORTHERN IRELAND and foreign policy is made by the UK NOT and I repeat NOT ENGLAND ALONE, have you got it yet. So your comment in @22 is wrong on 2 counts.
Although not mentioned above, Gobbi did rabbit on about UN 2065 XX
Oct 04th, 2016 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0R.I.P. :-https://www.academia.edu/10573354/UNGA_2065_XX_Question_of_The_Falkland_Islands_16_Dec_1965
Judging by the disappointment, MP commentators had been led to believe that Mauricio Macri would be able to soften Argentina's position regarding Islas Malvinas.
Oct 05th, 2016 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not that he didn't tried gestures as a trial ballon--it did not work. No Argentine president will risk his or her political capital on such a thing.
You can keep yapping, but reality is, you will have to live with Argentina's claim for as long as it's unfulfilled.
Without counting that a Jeremy Corbyn may come to power at any time and shake things up.
@27 You can keep yapping, but reality is, you will have to live with Argentina's claim for as long as it's unfulfilled.
Oct 05th, 2016 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27
If the Malvinas Myth claim is maintained for the next 10,000 years, so what?
What effect has claiming the Falkland Islands had so far?
I'll tell you, None whatsoever.
Argentina have no more chance of turning that claim into a Nazi style occupation, than they have for over 100 years, with the exception of 1982, when Argentina got what they wanted, for THREE months!
Just claiming the Falklands without having accurate and supporting history, or being able to overturn UN principles, more of which support the Falkland Islands than do not, is completely ineffective.
I for one am quite content to yap, because every part of the Argentine claim can be overturned by referring to historical events or using the rights of the Falkland Islanders.
I am quite happy, that every time a Malvanista gives a reason why the Falkland Islands should be Argentine, a poster on here is able to counter the claim, and the ONLY Malvanista response to a battering by referenced material is to say it's ours because it's in our country's heart or devoid of evidence, because we say so/were indoctrinated as schoolchildren.
I for one am happy to live with a claim that is completely ineffectual for as long as it is maintained.
Can I point out the blindingly obvious? It is Argentina that is not getting what it wants, not the Falkland Islanders.
@27 Enrique Massot
Oct 05th, 2016 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The status que suits Britain and the Islanders, Argentina is free to continue it “claim” as we are free to proceed with our plans for development unhindered.
Indeed Argentina is not in a position to “hinder” anything, much as it might like to.
If there is to be any change in this, then Argentina is going to have to come up with something, it’s a dead issue as far as the Brits are concerned.
My view, is that this will only end for you when Argentina accept the truth about the history of the region, and recognises the full rights of the Islanders.
Like I said, for the Brits, it’s already a dead issue.
It's really rather simple. Argentina maintains its Falklands claim in order to look silly and to avoid beneficial trade.
Oct 05th, 2016 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's working.
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