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Falklands/Malvinas: Temer administration reiterates support for Argentine legitimate rights

Saturday, October 8th 2016 - 10:29 UTC
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“The president of Brazil reiterated the support of his country to the legitimate rights of the Argentine Republic in the sovereignty dispute with Great Britain relative to the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding maritime spaces”, reads point 45 of the 47-point Argentina-Brazil joint statement from 3 October, following Brazilian president Michel Temer's visit to Buenos Aires. Read full article

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  • Briton

    This crap will roll on and on and on until some stops these stupid fools,

    some say they do this as part of their program to appease the people,

    but it still gives the impression and brainwashes the people into believing that they own and are entitled to something they are not,

    so yes I believe great Britain and the Falkland's should where pos, put a stop to all this bluster

    but we wont, [ P C and all that ]

    just my humble opinion.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Roger Lorton

    And?

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Briton

    but who cares Right.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/three-britons-accused-raping-singaporean-woman-104320349.html

    This is what happens when a nation think it is going back to the “old ways”.

    Expect more of this around the world as the British population is infected with Empirial Island Fever. But they will soon be dunked in an ice-cold bathtub, the EU, Mersosur, China, Russia, USA, Asian Nations will make certain of that.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Skip

    Did Nostrils just put Mercosur on the same level as the EU, China and USA?

    Bahahahahaha

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    Asean and Mersosur and India (which I forgot) are the biggest economies after the other three, so yes.

    And you keep proving your soft racism with your post.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Islander1

    Well- hardly expect him to say anything else - and as others say - totally irrelevant and of no real interest.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • eteega

    Air is free, and in politics hot air is plentiful...Brazil kissing Argie butt to gain a better trade deal or whatever.....you will get this all the time to placate the Peronistas...As they said in Gibraltar...the Spanish flag won't fly over Gibralar not in 4 year nor 4,000 years ...ditto the Falklands and the Argie flag...but the politicians will keep feeding patent pap to the hoi poloi of Argentina and Spain.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    And neither will the British Flag ever fly over Buenos Aires, even though you have tried twice. Nor Patagonia, even though you still want it.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Skip

    ASEAN (its an acronym not a noun) and Mercosur are not integrated economic units and in no way on par with the EU. Aspirations are not reality.

    The UK's nominal GDP is higher than Mercosur and India, on par with ASEAN and double Russia's (which is the same size as Australia).

    Why anyone would ignore an economy that size isn't how people grow economies and make money.

    All I keep proving with my posts are your inherent stupidity, your inability to argue, your powerlessness, your bitterness and the lack of opportunity your country gives you.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Marti Llazo

    @9 “Nor Patagonia, ..”

    Actually, it will be the Chinese that plant their flag on the patagonia.

    Wait...“will” ? They already have. A base in Neuquén. I mean, a colony. The argie apologencia call it a concession. But it's a colony. Staffed in part by Chinese military personnel. Of course they deny that it's for other than, um, space observation. And it gets exemption from IVA (ergo, the local VAT) and customs controls.

    Perhaps Chubut will be the next to be colonised by the Chinese. They may need a couple of cheap cabins. They may end up with a lot of cheap Chubutense cabins .

    ----------
    Argentina is going to need that Chinese currency. The government here is seeing trouble making payments on foreign debt. That US$10 billion or so that Argentina owes to the Paris Club? The Argie government is projecting such serious revenue shortfalls that they're talking about deferring payment. That's the first obvious step in “significant nonpayment events” which in financial argot mean Of Course Argentina Is Going To Default Again Real Soon. But then, Defaultese is the second language here.

    Fire Sale. Argentine Patagonia Provinces, Cheap. Enquire.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    @10

    That will change in 3-5 years and you know it.

    Sorry to break it my pro-Anglo colonialist, but India and Brazil will have much bigger economies than the UK.

    And conversely why would people ignore India AND or Mercosur, or ASEAN? There you go again, saying the UK can't be ignored due to GDP but the others can. Your typical double-standard with a tint of Anglo supremacism at work again.

    Until you proved it again in your closing remark.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • golfcronie

    @12
    Ah but we are superior Capi, live with it.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    @13

    I rest my case, Demon and Elaine.

    The typical foreigner, right here.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    @14 Capi
    LOL, he's trolling you back.

    But anyway, why is golfcronie more typical than Elaine or me? And there must be tourists and foreign workers in Mendoza, don't you ever talk to them?

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Jack Bauer

    Looks like Temer agreed to have point 45 included in the joint-statement only to avoid any useless confrontation, which might upset the Macri Govt. The fact is, that with respect to this particular issue, Brazil will never put its money where its mouth is.
    Was just to keep the Argies happy.

    @12 Trolley
    “Sorry to break it my pro-Anglo colonialist, but India and Brazil will have much bigger economies than the UK.”

    Eventually India maybe, but Brazil ? while they have the potential, they haven't a clue as how to use it. The backward mentality of a large portion of the Brazilian population is against real progress and productivity....seems all they want to do is to steal or to lead a cushy life at someone else's expense. It's a cultural problem, not an economic one.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    India and Brazil will have much bigger economies than the UK.

    But Argentina wont,
    thus your point falls,

    you guys will never advance whilst you live in the past with unlawful claims,

    why don't you leave the Falkland's along, and get on with running your own country,
    or is this to difficult for you argies.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Skip

    Nostrils

    As is usual, you misrepresent.

    “....why would people ignore India AND or Mercosur, or ASEAN? ”

    Didn't say that.
    Didn't even allude to it.
    Indeed, I was saying the opposite. But with your limited education & stunted intelligence it is hardly surprising that you so easily get confused. It is probably why you lie so much.

    No one is ignoring India.
    No one is ignoring ASEAN.
    And the only reason that countries ignore Mercosur is because its inward looking & not outward. For a contrast, look at the free trade agreements being signed by Pacific Alliance members. Dozens upon dozens.

    Indeed, why is Mercosur ignoring India and ASEAN? And the USA? And China?

    Mercosur has FTAs with Israel, Egypt, Palestine & Lebanon - combined their economies are smaller than Florida.

    As for comparative economic size, of course India will have a larger economy than the UK as their population is 21x larger.

    Population size is not a perfect indication of economic size or any other measure such hard/soft power or potential. So Brazil is no guarantee in the long run.

    You're the one that is on this whole new Brexit meme, so you really need to do your research when making claims.

    You think that Brexit is way to bash the UK and somehow deflate its sense of place in the world. For someone who harks on about sovereignty & not conforming to the norm, its funny that you now take the opposite position to describe the UK doing exactly that.

    The UK has decided that its economic future lies outside the EU. Its people have decided that they no longer wish to cede sovereignty to an external organisation that they feel does not represent their beliefs & their place in the world.

    If Argentina was doing this, you'd be shouting how powerful it was for doing what they wanted & not what others wished for or decided was best for them.

    But because it is the UK, you go against your beliefs purely to attack.

    It is why you argue so badly, because not even you believe your own sh!t!

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Jo Bloggs

    I also support Argentina and its legitimate rights.

    18
    I think Nostrils must have some sort of fetish. Why else would he keep setting himself up to be knocked down and shown up the way you do to him on a regular basis.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Briton

    No doubt he will ridicule all and blame the brits,

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marti Llazo

    More bad news for the failing and flailing argentine economy and its failing and flailing government.

    China has virtually halted all soy bean oil imports from Argenzuela. China is now favouring soy from Ukraine (nearly 20 percent of Chinese soy imports) and Brazil (nearly 60 percent). Argenzuela had earlier bet the mortgage on the value-added measure of converting its soy crops to soy oil, and this supported considerable employment. Now China itself is processing imported beans into oil, which makes Reekie happy because of his oft-expressed hatred for the agro export sector and the fact that China cut into Argentina's employment numbers during Macri's government.

    Soy bean oil is one of Argenzuela's few currently important exports. It's what pays the bills here these days as other sectors of the economy sink. The loss of this market and stiff competition from other suppliers in other markets places Argentina's economy further in jeopardy this year.

    Default? Only a matter of time. Tic - toc.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Skip

    Joe

    A victim mentality requires being put down. Nostrils remembers the put downs but conveniently forgets how he sets himself up each time. He has learnt this from his government both past and present.

    So in his mind, he is entirely innocent and constantly being attacked and put down for no reason. Which feeds his desire for revenge.

    Which is why we get to continually watch him set himself up.... again and again and again.

    He gets perverse pleasure in being bested continually.

    Indeed, you could say that he is the ultimate example of revenge porn!

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Jo Bloggs

    22
    Skip

    You call it a victim mentality, I call it a fetish. I used to respect the guy 4 or 5 years ago. He used to talk a lot of sense and make very constructive points.

    How's Melbourne? My friends over there are all excited about Bathurst. One guy I know is there with his son.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    #4
    Khong Tam Thanh, 21, Le Michael, 23, and Vu Thai Son,. Yes well known British surnames ! Anglos as well, are they ?

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Skip

    Joe

    Yeah he has gone downhill markedly in the last few years. I don't think this site is good for his mental health. I tried once to help him but that would have meant he had to admit that not every person on here the racist argie hating caricature that he needs to feed his psychosis.

    I'm currently not in Melbourne. I moved to Canada in early August to attend McGill in Montréal for a year as an exchange student. It is currently a cold and wet day here and instead of studying for mid-terms I am wasting my time on here. Heading home sometime after May depending on how much money I have left.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • LEPRecon

    Hey Tobias

    And in Argentina rapes never happen...oh wait...

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/argentina-teenager-gang-raped-had-eyes-gouged-by-sister-gruesome-exorcism-1516557

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/argentina-teenager-gang-raped-had-eyes-gouged-by-sister-gruesome-exorcism-1516557

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/argentina-teenager-gang-raped-had-eyes-gouged-by-sister-gruesome-exorcism-1516557

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/argentina-teenager-gang-raped-had-eyes-gouged-by-sister-gruesome-exorcism-1516557

    The one thing you ALWAYS forget, Tobias, is that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    And for Argentina's current government...it's just doing what all previous governments have done, and they are still no nearer to gaining sovereignty over the Falklands than they were in 1965.

    What is the definition of insanity? Performing the same actions over and over in the hopes of getting a different result.

    Not going too well for Argentina is it?

    Are you embarrassed? Is that why you're desperately trying (and failing) to divert the thread with your nasty little racist rants?

    Poor Tobias. A failure from a failed never-was country, with no future, no hope and no friends.

    Oct 08th, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Clyde15

    #27
    Y-A-W-N.

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • lsolde

    Hey, Temer.
    Argentina doesn't have any “legitimate rights” in the Falklands.
    Butt out, Temer, & clean up your own corrupt, dysfunctional country before kissing Argentine ass & making stupid comments about things that you know nothing.
    ldiota!

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Brasileiro

    The Temer administration is a failure. The head of Temer is going to jail, and soon he will also.

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    @26

    Because your country is a beacon of light for the globe, the cynosure for the aspirations of all nations.. NOT!

    “The UK Home Secretary Amber Rudd's proposed restrictions on foreign students and the stigmatization of British companies hiring too many overseas workers and professionals go exactly in such direction. It also represents an evident legitimization of xenophobia.”

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/05/news/uk-foreign-workers-brexit/

    So, government officials on the record advocating full-on racial filters on jobs, education, and hospitals. “Lists” of foreign workers, black-listing companies, hospitals doing “drug” screenings based on social strata for service, migration quotas...Sounds like a decent society developing on that isle (not).

    But then again I have said for years here that the 4th Reich was coming and I don't see how anyone here can read news stories like this and all the other proposals coming out of that place about foreigners and argue I was not right.

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    @31 CapiTroll:
    Wants to ban all foreigners from entering Argentina.
    Claims Britain is becoming the 4th Reich for trying to lower immigration.

    Mmmmm, yeah. The smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • CapiTrollism_is_back!!

    There is a slight difference, I'm afraid.

    I don't go around saying Argentina is a great country today. Notice the difference, I blast all other countries, but not by saying mine is better.

    More importantly, my country's government does not go lecturing to everyone on these issues and then doing something completely different at home.

    The UK is the one always claiming to be this open, tolerant society.

    When I read of “foreign worker lists”, “universities with too many foreign students”, “attacks on Jews up 500% in one year”, “hospital treatment based on stealth drug screenings on lower classes”, “migration quotas”, “Britannia”, forgive me for coming to the conclusion that it looks exactly like Germany around 1935.

    And in fact all throughout the 1930s most Germans were just in denial that it could happen in their country. Guess what the attitude and vibe coming from the British is of late...

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    @33 Capi
    So, you're saying Britain is not living up to its rhetoric?

    So what. That doesn't affect whether isolationism is objectively good or bad. If your plan would not make Argentina into the 4th Reich, how would the much lesser things suggested do that to Britain?

    1935 was when the Nuremberg laws were introduced in Germany, stripping all German Jews of their citizenship, and banning them from having sexual relations with people of 'German blood'. There's really no comparison between that and asking companies to disclose how many foreign workers they have, a plan that has just been canned anyway due to the backlash.

    Do you not realise how ridiculous you sound comparing Brexit to actual Nazism?

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Brasileiro

    The war against the Malvinas Cancer's is coming close.

    https://br.sputniknews.com/europa/20161009/6521148/atiradores-de-elite-americanos-donbass.html

    Go on in Donbass, Go on in Falklands!

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Marti Llazo

    Maybe La Cámpora will give them a ride in a leaky boat.

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    #33
    “When you read”...So you believe everything you read in the press ONLY if it fits your preconceptions. Wise up sonny.

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Briton

    Great Britain gives more aid, in money and goods than any other country on the planet behind the United States,

    Including Argentina,

    Never grateful, always the victim..

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Jack Bauer

    @30 & 35 BRasshole (cuzão)

    Forget to take your medz ?
    Parou de tomar seus medicamentos ?

    Oct 09th, 2016 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Clyde15

    Basically I would support Argentina's “Legitimate rights”....the qualifying word being LEGITIMATE !

    Oct 10th, 2016 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Orbit

    Well it was point 45 out of 47 in their statement. To put this into context, point 44 referred to the need for two types of biscuits (rather than one) at the next meeting, point 46 was a blatant attempt to win at bullshit bingo as “herding cats” and “singing from the same hymn sheet” were used in spurious form. Lastly point 47 simply read “Hello Mum”.

    Oct 10th, 2016 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • chronic

    1935, Huh?

    Germany is quite the financial and industrial powerhouse now.

    NATO is so benign as to be virtually nonexistant.

    Japan is just interested in developing a line of robotic diaper changers for its geriatrics.

    The bear is growling.

    The League of Nations is still a joke.

    The alien threat - whether ak or vest - is real instead of rhetorical.

    1935? No, but these definitely are weird times.

    A Nasir era airbase for the Russians in Egypt?

    Weirder and weirder . . . .

    Oct 10th, 2016 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Briton

    The alien threat ??

    Well NASA reckons that Alien are on their way from somewhere to here,

    I suppose we will all have to watch the skies. lol

    Oct 10th, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    Looks like MercoPiss screwed up again with their new interface. Can't tell who is making which comment.

    Oct 10th, 2016 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Yes, it's remarkably inconvenient.

    Does this help?

    Oct 10th, 2016 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    All the countries in the world, including the UK, should support Argentinaøs legitimate rights in the sovereignty dispute with Great Britain relative to the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding maritime spaces as Argentina has no legitimate rights in that dispute. Let's hear a loud “I support the non-existent right!”

    All the countries in the world should also support the Invisible Pink Unicorn while they are at it.

    Oct 11th, 2016 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Briton

    Argentina should grow up.

    Oct 11th, 2016 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    The lack of an identifying number and name of the poster is not user-friendly at all.

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Icepilot

    Juuup! Who's who?

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • John III (Pope)

    Great Britain should grow up.

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    No, Who's on second.

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “The lack of an identifying number and name of the poster is not user-friendly at all.”

    It is pretty annoying, this has got to be one of the worst sites to make people anonymous on.

    You should get yourself an icon; would this be suitable?

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111163466/4723892-0581054328-24-ki.jpg

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Pffffffffft....
    Those spoiled Anglo brats...
    They forget they are commenting on a South American site...
    Just relax and ejoy the ride... It can only get worse... Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jack Bauer

    Thanks DT. Comfortably appropriate...

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Jack Bauer
    Happy to help. :)

    @Think
    Are you trying to imply South American sites are all poorly designed and poorly implemented?

    But it's already worse, I tried the new design on my phone and it's a disaster; a mess that looks like the style sheets just completely failed to load, fixed width text that makes you scroll sideways, comments all jumbled up and icons hovering on top of text. Not exactly a design for the future.

    Oct 12th, 2016 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Briton

    Already some are trying to impersonate people,
    but as there real name crops up like, [ John III (Pope) ]
    very bad people.

    What a load of Marmite.

    Oct 13th, 2016 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +2

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