MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands' military exercises trigger protests in Buenos Aires against Macri and UK embassy
Extreme left wing organizations protested on Thursday outside Britain's embassy in Buenos Aires against UK military exercises which are being carried out in the disputed Falkland Islands. The groups also slammed the Argentine government's pursuit of closer ties with the United Kingdom. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentines are funny. I've half a mind to set up a distribution company to sell them union flags to burn. It's good business and nobody in the UK would care less.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse +10However if we were to burn an Argentine flag the response would be like the Duracell bunny on an overdose of speed. Come to think of it....let's do that and watch the comedy begin.
The problem is that they believe that they have a legitimate claim to the Falklands. Fact is, they've never legally owned the islands. The rules concerning uti possidetis juris are clear and have been applied consistently throughout the past 150 years:-
Oct 21st, 2016 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse +8The law of the time did not accept inheritance without settlement and stated that 'an unopposed settlement of some years was necessary” before sovereignty was accepted. (The Law of Nations, Vattel, Cpt XI, p337) Vernet had sought acquiescence from the British consul in BUENOS AIRES on two occasions before establishing “his” colonies and the British protested when he was appointed military and political governor by the BA. Authorities. Jewett had no settlement. The concept of uti possidetis juris (inheritance of Spain) is only customary international law, applicable to those who choose to use it. Great Britain, France and Brazil have never opted to use uti possidetis juris and UPJ has “never” be used in “any” court or tribunal without the consent of both parties.
There is ample evidence that this has been the mode of applying / not applying UPJ over the past 150 years:
https://www.academia.edu/28967823/Falklands_Uti_Possidetis_Juris
When they discover the truth they will be most upset.
I was about to post the same idea !!
Oct 21st, 2016 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse +5The flag burning is escalating into a national sport. Pity they had not included it in the Olympics as it would have been a certain gold medal for Argentina. They could have combined it with tyre burning in a dioathelon...I just made up that word !
What a load of toss. These have been going on at this time of year for about the last twenty years. It's just some live firing, hardly a “NATO exercise”. Any excuse to turn on the BA BS machine.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse +5Here we go! Here we go! Here we go!
Oct 21st, 2016 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse +5When are they going to admit they are wrong? As Hepatits says “In 25 years' time”?
So la cretina let the dogs out again. Time to put a collar on her.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse +2There was a really important demonstration in BA the other day...once that was trying to highlight violence against women.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse +9Why can't these Argentines concentrate on something that is actually important? Like reducing sexual and physical violence against women?
Or is it more likely that these idiots demonstrating against something that has nothing to do with them are most likely the instigators on said violence against women?
LEPRecon,
Oct 21st, 2016 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If you look at the numbers of people involved in each demonstration it is evident that “ni una menos” was massive compared to these few delinquents burning the union jack. Yet, looks like all of the posters here just focus on the least important of these demonstrations.
And no, idlehands, you'll be better off investing in peso nominated bonds than selling flags for us, funny Argentines, to burn.
And so ends Argenzuela's much-ballyhooed campaign to “rejoin the world.”
Oct 21st, 2016 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +5I wonder if Macri has any plans to 'neutralise' the effect of 15M Bat-shit Mad Argies before the next election?
Oct 21st, 2016 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Unless, of course, he is already sick and fed up of having to deal with these simple minded idiots making him look an utter prat on the world stage?
@ Marti Llazo
Oct 21st, 2016 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +7“Argenzuela”.......good one..!
As a purely social gesture I like the idea of reciprocal flag burning but in and of itself it is an empty act lacking in true insult.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Perhaps the ceremony should include an NFL style end zone dance where the conflagrationist(s) could abuse the banner and artistically demonstrate their joy at denigrating it.
A more substantive act would be to research, identify and reassert an obscure, long forgotten adverse claim against latam (oh hell - why not the whole western hemisphere) and a more specific one targeting rg or a major portion thereof.
When ever rg trots out the malvina claim the UK/FI could then respond in like kind.
Yaaaaaaaawn… .
Oct 21st, 2016 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeee… these RG Turnips are so boooooring…
C'mon Think - oh he's out flag burning! Or, perhaps worshipping his statue of the Botox Queen, collecting bucketfuls of horseshit? Which is it?
They are winging about missiles are they? The Rapier system is an air defence system. Their Exocet, could be used in defence, but it is primarily an attack system (as we saw in 1982)
Oct 21st, 2016 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Here's another idea:
Oct 21st, 2016 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Since the whole rg/malvina thing is intractable - do a paradigm shift with value added.
Swap rg an approximate equal land mass in the Shetlands for their malvina claim.
That's a three-for-one: You punish the Shetlanders and swindle rg and settle the FI claim.
What do the Shetlanders need punishing for....?
Oct 21st, 2016 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -1...Falklands is also about five times the size of the Shetlands...
The Left Wing must have an exercise now and then.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Only a hundred or so, somewhat less than in CFK’s time.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Also a lot less overall “rhetoric” than previously, where the Argy Gov was doing most of the shouting.
What is a flag? It is a piece of cloth nothing more, it’s what it represents that is important, but that is carried in your heart not the piece of cloth.
Attitudes, like their situation, never was going to change overnight in Argentina.
If so, take the deficit from the Scots proper.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Tarquin Fin
Oct 21st, 2016 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Yet, looks like all of the posters here just focus on the least important of these demonstrations.
Of course we do. The demonstration about the flag burning is a demonstration against the UK
The ni una menos is purely an internal Argentine affair and although we may be sympathetic to it's aims, it's nothing to do with UK/Argentine relations.
Of course Clyde, I totally agree that those grunts burning the flag is an offensive act. The problem I have with most of the posts is that they go ahead and try to generalise this behaviour suggesting that all of us in Argentina are nothing but apes. This is not true and you should probably be aware of that. Unless of course you just get your impressions about Argentina solely out of this forum and the many trolls that lurk in its depths.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Tarquin Fin
Oct 21st, 2016 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +6If you look at the numbers of people involved in each demonstration it is evident that
these few delinquents burning the union jack,
Well, it is offensive to us, when did the brits last burn Argentina flags,
but I suppose it makes a change from them burning their own flag,
even if it is just a minority,
Tarquin Fin
The problem I have with most of the posts is that all of us in Argentina are nothing but apes.
you should not put yourselves down so much,
NO you are not apes, nor do you live in a zoo,
and we don't generally hate the Argentina people,
rather its the fanatics and the government that brainwash its people,
Argentina has no claim what so ever, never has , don't now , or never will,
just my humble opinion.
Not just offensive to you. I find it offensive myself. Burning any flag is disrespect. Most of us would never dare do such a thing. Just a group of idiots trying get attention because the live off politics (cheap, pointless politics).
Oct 21st, 2016 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Briton, I don`t put myself down. I`ve never subscribed to this Brittish hatred that has been poluting this country for generations. Nonsense.
Regarding the claims, I hardly speak about them. I`m mostly interested in getting ahead. We certainly don`t need more territory for that to happen. ( I`m a bit touchy lately. Do recognize that.)
Just some of the comments seem really offensive (like the existence of Arg. being a waste of nuclear tactical weapons, etc ...) I know some posts from this side are as bad or nastier than those. Gee, it`s hard to be in the middle.
Gee, it`s hard to be in the middle.,
Oct 21st, 2016 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +4it certainly is ,
thanks for the reply.
“Extreme left wing.”
Oct 21st, 2016 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -11“Rabidly nationalistic and Marxist.”
Wow. The islanders are in real trouble as the pupils of the very Karl Marx and Vladimir Ilich Lenin have set their sights on Malvinas.
@ Enrique
Oct 21st, 2016 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Was that supposed to be sarcasm? Considering how many countries were taken over by pupils of those two men it's not very funny.
Though actually that's an interesting point. Why was the left wing government more nationalistic in Argentina, but it's right wing ones who are more nationalistic in Spain (and the rest of Europe)?
All I can say to Argentina is “Ahhhh diddums!” (and if Idlehands is supplying the flags, I bags the franchise to sell the silly Argie b&ggers matches and some lighter fuel to get the flags going good and proper)
Oct 21st, 2016 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Mr.DemonTree
Oct 21st, 2016 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -9You ask...:
”Why was the left wing government more nationalistic in Argentina, but it's right wing ones who are more nationalistic in Spain (and the rest of Europe)?”
I say...:
... Maybe because Argentina is not in Europe?
Nota Bene...:
It is advisable..., when trying to comprehend economical, political or social processes and realities around the world... to, at least, make an effort to mitigate ones own ethnocentrism...
El Think...
Tarquin Fin
Oct 21st, 2016 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +8I have only ever met a few Argentinians and they were in the UK. I found them perfectly nice and agreable people. However, my only recourse to what ”Argentinians are like, in the main comes from Mercopress or the BA Herald.
Your last government actively lied about the UK and most of the Argentine posters here are equally anti-British to the nth degree so it becomes a bear pit with insults bouncing back and forward.
I would be surprised if any British poster actually wished real harm to the average Argentinian but it's the name of the game here.
People post things that I hope they would not say to anyone's face.
Being anonymous emboldens people.
To me the only reason I came on this site was because of the rising tidal wave of invective from the K. govt. against the Falklands.
1982 is burned into my psyche.
@ Think
Oct 21st, 2016 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +3I am aware of where Argentina is located, but I don't know whether it's also true of other South American countries.
Anyway it doesn't answer the question; why would right wing governments be more nationalistic in one part of the world and left wing ones in another?
DYOR
Oct 21st, 2016 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -10@ DemonTree
Oct 21st, 2016 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1It would be a mistake to assume that the left-wing in Argentina is nationalist. It's certain that the left-wing Peronists (the Kirchnerists--assuming they will exist for much longer) use nationalist rhetoric in the case of the Falklands and other cases (they have to appeal to Peron's old principals of being “national' and ”popular”) but this rhetoric is simultaneously used with anti-imperialist (which they assume is the same as anti-capitalist) rhetoric which is a common theme amongst the left (and some of the right).
Here's some good evidence that the Kirchnerists aren't nationalist:
1. Gildo Insfrán (allied governor of Formosa) gave pensions to Paraguayans (that live in Paraguay) that illegally voted for him, and he's still in power. A similar situation occurs in Missions.
2. Chilean mining company dumped arsenic and other waste on the Argentine side of the border and San Juan's governor and the Kirchnerists covered it up until a private company began investigating.
3. Patria Grande was made by the Kirchnerists, giving amnesty to various illegal immigrants and essentially leading to an open border program.
4. Kirchnerist intendents in Moreno gave government lands to illegals to vote for them in the elections.
5. Nothing was done to limit healthcare tourism and education tourism whereby foreigners are subsidized and given benefits without any requirement of residency nor payment.
6. The radar system on the border to detect the entry of illegals and narcotrafficking was disabled until Macri came to power.
7. There was no official detention center until Macri came to power.
8. Expansions of the political power of Mercosur, leading to the political Parlasur (where two left wingers were suspended due to being corrupt).
9. Generally robbing the country of its wealth
10. The military is entirely gutted
11. Article 25 of the constitution is hopelessly ignored.
12. And when you criticized any of the prior, the first to call you “xenophobic” were the left.
Hey, if you don't know the answer, you can just say so. ;)
Oct 21st, 2016 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +5What I meant by my comment is that the left-wing in Argentina is not nationalist but against what they would percieve as “the current geopolitical dominance of capitalist countries and its use of neo-imperialism” or some similar psychobabble which is why they show solidarity with Venezuela, Cuba, etc.
Oct 21st, 2016 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The reason why you don't see a right wing party leading the rhetoric is because the Peronists on the right have their reputation tainted by Menem, and the non-Peronist nationalists have been tainted by association with the dirty war, so the only nationalist party is not currently sizeable enough to have weight. If you've noticed the elections since 2003, the right wing have essentially been exterminated with the exception of last year.
In 1982, the government that launched the expedition were right-wing, so it's neither chiefly left-wing, nor are the left-wingers nationalist because their claims are only partially about irredentism, and partially about stoking a dislike of the global system of finance and capitalism which is not inherently nationalist (because then communists would be nationalists).
“.... a group of around 100 people burned two British flags and harshly criticized Argentine President Mauricio Macri's efforts to strengthen ties with Prime Minister Theresa May's administration.”
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse +1Burn a couple of Union Jacks - now that is an original form of protest. It took only one hundred of Argentina's best minds came up with that one!
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse -12Idleheads:
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse -8You are confusing “habituation” with “indignation”.
Most other nationalities may get more indignant about someone burning our flag simply because they are not used to seeing it. Most nations do not or did not go invading and imposing their language and culture on others.
Can you say the same virtue applies to your country?
There is a reason so many British flags are burned around the world, you know. And neither math nor logic are on your side: If there is a classroom full of people and everyone hates on kid, the statistical likelyhood is that the one kid maybe is a bully to all the others, and not a victim of some sort of conspiracy that requires 20 or 30 kids to find agreement upon (never).
Leave it to the developers of a computer game to basically back up EVERYTHING I say about the British:
'Diplomacy has also received a huge shakeup. While the leader screens are packed full of more detail than ever – rumours on your allies and enemies, potential trade deals, options for war and relationship statuses – the moment-to-moment role of playing the diplomat is much better set up thanks to the game’s Agenda system. These agendas are identifiable character traits with two per leader; the first is a historical agenda, determined by a particular facet of that leader’s personality from their time in rule. Philip of Spain hates religions other than his own, for example, while England’s Queen Victoria dislikes civilizations that come from any continent that isn’t her own.”
If it's your trait in a strategy game, it sure must me a nearly UNIVERSAL agreed upon stereotype or notion shared by most of the world. :)
“Most nations do not or did not go invading and imposing their language and culture on others”.
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse +6SO WHY DID THE EUROPEAN, SPANISH AND ITALIAN, INTERLOPERS IN WHAT IS NOW ARGENTINA IMPOSE THEIR LANGUAGES AND CUSTOMS ON THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES WHO INHABITED TIERRA DEL FUEGO AND, NOT ONLY THAT, COMMITTED GROSS ACTS OF GENOOCIDE AGAINST THOSE SAME PEOPLES?
@ Genasaus
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse +5Thank you, that's very interesting. My previous comment was aimed at Think by the way, yours must have appeared while I was writing.
So the left wing is not strictly nationalist, but they do seem to have a sort of pan-nationalist thing going on of Latin America vs the USA/West? Or does it just look like that because they are opposed to the capitalist countries?
And it's sort of a historical accident that the right wing in Argentina is not nationalist? Do you think the same thing applies to the other countries in South America?
@ Capi
“Most nations do not or did not go invading and imposing their language and culture on others.”
Wrong. Until very recently any that could do this did so.
Aside from the obvious fact that you are living in a Spanish speaking country a good long way away from Spain, when the Spanish arrived in the Americas they found several local empires there already; people who had imposed their language and culture on others. When the conquistadors arrived they were easily able to get support from tributaries and rivals of eg the Aztecs.
And I would agree that the Victorians tended to look down on non-European culture and civilisations. But it's not necessarily true of modern day Brits.
You almost never see people of powerfull, wealthy countries burn flags.
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse +5It shows Argies are nothing.
Btw: burn away Argies we dont care
Poor old Hepatia. Again with the old “England will return the Malvinas within 25 years” BS.
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse +6#1 Yes, we have no Malvinas...
#2 England doesn't have the wherewithal to return the FALKLANDS (please learn the difference between “England” and “The United Kingdom of Great Britain”
#3 The United Kingdom of Great Britain won't be returning the Falklands to Argentina without the express wishes and permission of the Falkland Islanders
#4 It ain't going to happen
The world according to Capi. Try joining the REAL world instead of the imaginary one festering in your head. Get a job....meet people...get a life outwith your self indulgent existence.
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +71. the islands are not disputed,you need two ,to have a dispute. If we start firing at you it wont be a few old SAMs ,what about some Tomahawks landing on your airbases ..........
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +2No one has burnt more flags than Americans.
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Enrique Massot
Oct 22nd, 2016 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Lenin have set their sights on Malvinas.
[ Lenin is dead , Malvinas does not exist ]
[ The Falkland's people exist and are alive ]
CapiTrollism_is_back!!
Its not a game...
Try snakes and ladders..lol
How risible, predictable, and ANGLO it is that the BRITISH on this board lambast me on my supposed wild exaggerations or gross generalizations of the British, when the comment section itself is choked full of “argies are garbage”, “argies are losers”, “argies have nothing better to protest”, they THEMSELVES made, based on a protest of 92 people in a city of 14 million in a country of 45 million.
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse -8HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
ANGLOS WILL BE, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, ANGLOS.
ps - If only 100 people or less showed up to burn the flag of a country who invaded your country no less than 3 TIMES in 1806, 1807, and 1845 and killed scores of your citizens... they should be canonized.
Compare the number of times a Union Jack, the flag of the United Kingdom, has been burnt by a baying mob of protestors in BA or somewhere else in Argentina with the number of times the same fate has befallen an Argentine flag in the UK.
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse +4There is a large disparity in the numbers. Protests against the UK in Argentina are almost routine, they are a national pastime. But the poor old argies – it is easier to blame somebody else for the state they are in then accept responsibility for their own malaise.
But against the background of all the hostility directed at the UK and the Falkland Islanders, they have the temerity to accuse the UK of ‘acting in bad faith’ when the UK goes about its lawful business of ensuring the security of its territory.
As always different rules apply to Argentina than the rest of the world, in their minds they are ‘special’.
Special hypocrites.
@ CapiTrollism_is_back!!
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse +4“ps - If only 100 people or less showed up to burn the flag of a country who invaded your country no less than 3 TIMES in 1806, 1807, and 1845 and killed scores of your citizens... they should be canonised.”
1) It seems to me that you are not quite accurate with this statement. In 1806 and 1807 Buenos Aires was a SPANISH colonial city - Argentina did NOT exist. The British invasions of the River Plate were a series of unsuccessful British attempts to seize control of areas in the Spanish colonial Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata that were located around the Río de la Plata in South America — in present-day Argentina and Uruguay. The invasions took place between 1806 and 1807, as part of the Napoleonic Wars, when Spain was an ally of Napoleonic France.
2)The Anglo-French BLOCKADE of the Río de la Plata was a five-year-long naval blockade imposed by FRANCE and Britain on the Argentine Confederation ruled by Juan Manuel de Rosas. It was imposed in 1845 to support the Colorado Party in the Uruguayan Civil War and closed Buenos Aires to naval commerce. The Anglo-French navy trespassed into the internal waters of Argentina, in order to sell their products, as Rosas maintained a protectionist policy to improve the weak Argentine economy. Eventually both Britain and France gave in, signing treaties in 1849 (Britain) and 1850 (France) acknowledging the Argentine sovereignty over its rivers.
You should also bear in mind that in 1850 Argentina and Britain signed the Arana Southern Treaty in which, many Argentine historians and others agree, Argentina tacitly agreed the British sovereignty of the Falklands/Malvinas.
Please be accurate in your accusations!
gordo1
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse +3Capi does not want facts...they contradict his deeply embedded prejudices.
He is stuck in a mindset somewhere in the early 19th century.
Why should one forget the past transgressions? And by the way I thought Britain, and France if you want me to add it, respected other's sovereignty, unlike the evil argies... so why did any treaty have to be signed “acknowledging” sovereignty? I think the Europeans tried in Argentina the same BS they did onto the Japanese, Chinese, Indians, etc...
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse -5Why did European go forcing others on threat of war and death to trade with them?
Sounds like it was “an offer you can't refuse”.
And all this time I would have sworn Europeans told me they respected everyone and their self-determination.
And before people start with “it was 150 years ago”, so that means that if a crime was committed as long as you can get away with it there should be a time you no longer are guilty? Says who?
Heck, when it comes to SOVEREIGN DEBT, there is no statute of limitations huh? So why should there be one for actual WAR CRIMES, GENOCIDE, INVASION, CONQUEST, etc? Or is defaulting on some banker's debt a worse crime?
“Oh, but everyone from that time is dead. The people in those countries today should now pay the consequences”. Nope, too bad, they should and in fact they are finally starting too. Europe's refugee crisis, affecting all nations there is an indirect result of your deeds of the past.
And ultimately, the countries should pay for their crimes, because they were committed in the NAME OF THAT NATION. If the people today have to suffer, well tough luck.
@ Capi
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse +4“And all this time I would have sworn Europeans told me they respected everyone and their self-determination.”
What gave you that idea? It's clear that Spain, for one, does not respect everyone's self-determination since they won't let Catalonia have an independence referendum.
As for 150 years ago, how many countries in Europe were even democratic? Even for those that were, not one of them allowed the whole population to vote. Why would you expect any of them to care about self-determination? They only respected others sovereignty if it was convenient or they were forced to.
Which country was any different 150 years ago?
And why should you, CapiTroll, forget past transgressions? Because they have absolutely no effect on your life today. That's not true for everyone in every country, but it is true for you.
How should we go about having all the countries in the world pay for past crimes anyway? What's your solution?
CapiTrollism_is_back!!
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse -1“ so why did any treaty have to be signed “acknowledging” sovereignty?”
Are you unable to understand English? Where did I say that the Arana Southern Treaty was an acknowledgment by the Argentine Federation (Rosas) of British sovereignty of the Falklands/Malvinas.
Perhaps I should explain to your tiny mind? The Arana- Southern Treaty was also known as the Convention of Settlement and described as “ Convención para restablecer las perfectas relaciones de amistad entre la Confederación Argentina y Su Majestad Británica”. NB Las PERFECTAS RELACIONES DE AMISTAD entre la Confederación Argentina y Su Majestad Británica”
Had the Federación Argentina wished to continue or re-establish its claims of sovereignty to the Falklands/Malvinas archipelago this treaty, especially its Art.7, would have been an ideal vehicle. No claim was mentioned thus TACITLY the claim was extinguished.
This is actual history NOT the false data that is fed to you from the cradle - cuentos de hadas, mentiras, mitos, y falsas interpretaciones de la historia factual.
Saludos.
@ gordo1
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse -2I assume he was referring to what you wrote here:
”Eventually both Britain and France gave in, signing treaties in 1849 (Britain) and 1850 (France) acknowledging the Argentine sovereignty over its rivers.”
Presumably then neither Britain nor France recognised Argentina's sovereignty over its internal waters before this. Why do you think that was?
Catalonia's situation is not comparable to say, Scotland. It's more of an in-between Scotland and let's say, London wanting to leave the UK. I don't think the UK gov would allow a referendum on that.
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -6As for forgetting past transgressions, that would diminish us all. Argentina will not forget in 3000 years. Look at our internal politics, we still don't forget and protest things from 60 years ago if they have not been properly resolved.
And treaties are not eternal btw. The British seem to think that any treaty's terms are eternal and perpetually unchanging for the other party, but for the British they are open to renegotiation, and outright withdrawal.
I guess most here don't see the hypocrisy in that, Demon Tree may be the rare exception.
@ToTALLY_OfMyTRoLLY_Troll
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +6So you admit you are an Indian murdering Creole Planter Bastard, responsible for ethnically cleansing S. America, which is still going on today.
“Our self-respect as a virile people obliges us to put down as soon as possible, by reason or by force, this handful of savages who destroy our wealth and prevent us from definitely occupying, in the name of law, progress and our own security, the richest and most fertile lands of the Republic.”
— Julio Argentino Roca.
Prosecution rests Milord.
Oh and don’t forget Toby, when it comes to the S. Atlantic/Antarctica:
“Unlike Atahualpa or the Mapuche, the British have more than just sticks and stones with which to defend their territory.”
Show us an “agreement” that Argentina has ever kept to?
Catalunya's (or rather, the Països Catalans' ) condition is nowhere near the “ like London” that the KepiTroll would have some believe. The Països Catalans comprise a significant piece of territory, culturally distinct from much of Spain, that was hammered into the Spanish empire very much against the will of the residents. Even their regional language remains foreign to Spanish-speakers. Ask for pa amb tomàquet anywhere else in Iberia and the waiter may spit on your table. If we must use the British Isles context then Catalunya would be even more alien to the UK than an Irish Republic. When I lived in Catalunya (during the Franco years) the crossing of the Ebre was for some a palpable measure of leaving or entering enemy territory. The effects of the injustices visited upon the Catalans in the 17th century need to be undone and properly resolved. The Falklanders, the Gibraltarians, and the Catalans all deserve to be left in peace, with their own cultures intact, and subject to their own peaceful self-determination, enjoying the alliances that they independently and freely elect.
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +10CapiTrollism_is_back!!
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +2You say “And treaties are not eternal btw.”. I believe that treaties, such as the Arana Southern Treaty, are eternal until one party revokes or both parties revoke by agreement. This has never happened in the case of the Arana Southern Treaty UNLESS the Argentine illegal invasion of the Falklands archipelago in 1982 can be considered a revocation.
However, I believe that the Argentine military junta and its advisors in 1982 were not even aware of the existence of the Arana Southern Treaty of 1850.
The Treaty of Utrecht, which ended the War of the Spanish Succession, also would have to be revoked by Spain if it wishes to attempt to legitimise its sovereignty of Gibraltar but this would very difficult because then Spain would then, maybe, have to return Minorca to Great Britain. Also, there is a further problem that many of the nations which signed the Treaty of Utrecht no longer exist.
Actually the “peace of Utrecht” contained five separate treaties, one of which was the Anglo Spanish treaty.
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Since then Spain has broken the treaty numerous times, not least a few years later when they attacked again but were pushed further back, having to sign another treaty giving away the isthmus.
The second coming of Jesus Christ will have happened before the Falkland Islands are in the control of Argentina.
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +4@ Capi
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +3What are you still protesting from 60 years ago?
But anyway those two invasions and the blockade were resolved at the time, and in the now-Argentina's favour. Remember them if you want, but protesting about them would be pretty pointless.
And sure, treaties can be renegotiated etc, but withdrawing from a peace treaty would usually mean you're at war again, something most people would find undesirable. What would you hope to gain from it anyway?
@ Pugol-H
Britain long ago broke the part of the treaty relating to Gibraltar too, by allowing Jews and 'Moors' to live and own property there. I imagine this section is superseded by human rights laws though.
CapiTrollism_is_back!!
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Treaties get broken,
but lets not get of Argentina's aggression,
it was Argentina, without provocation and without justice or respect of anyone's rights or peaceful existence,
That deliberately and maliciously invaded an unarmed and peaceful tiny little island
bringing terror aggression and destruction in its wake,
thus directly brining the British military to defend the islands,
knowing full well that death and destruction would follow,
hundreds of British lives were lost in defence of Argentina's unprovoked aggression, plus hundreds more argentine military personnel,
Argentina is guilty , Argentina started it, and the British ended it,
and the British defends the islands to this day,
because of argentine threats abuse and aggression against the islanders,
you have no claim on the islands , never had , and never will do,
All Argentina has done is cause bloodshed and violence, and still harasses them,
and yet Argentina has the Gaul to tell the world that it respects peoples rights,
some believe that you guys will take and use every opportunity to use violence and aggression against them if the British were not there,
Argentina was the aggressor and still is,
and all your so called treaties and agreements wont stop Argentina from using the Falkland's as a distraction to her own problems,
Leave them alone and respected their right to self determination and to live in peace, is this so hard for Argentina in this day and age to understand.
just my humble opinion of course.
I think your British should focus on the people that are really burning the UK flag now.
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Banks.
The 2nd Brexit is vote is officially underway... and in the ultimate irony, this Brexit is to get back into the EU!
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/british-banks-preparing-leave-uk-202341706.html
Your doomsday has officially arrived!
@ Capi
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Unfortunate but not surprising.
Will be interesting to see how the Brexiters try to spin this one.
Here's a British flag burner showing it makes you look just as stupid in every country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQRg7wH_FC0
Some fairly recent Engrish snapshots...:
Oct 23rd, 2016 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -4https://www.yahoo.com/sy/ny/api/res/1.2/OmZ1BVzrW3Eix2FEPJDeFg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/cd734eb8b2f50a61b37bc0378e0bd6481d213acd.jpg
https://www.yahoo.com/sy/ny/api/res/1.2/OmZ1BVzrW3Eix2FEPJDeFg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/cd734eb8b2f50a61b37bc0378e0bd6481d213acd.jpg
https://www.yahoo.com/sy/ny/api/res/1.2/OmZ1BVzrW3Eix2FEPJDeFg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/cd734eb8b2f50a61b37bc0378e0bd6481d213acd.jpg
https://www.yahoo.com/sy/ny/api/res/1.2/OmZ1BVzrW3Eix2FEPJDeFg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/cd734eb8b2f50a61b37bc0378e0bd6481d213acd.jpg
What a bunch of double standarded Engrish Turnips that post in here...
Someone above did suggest that people only burn flags of more powerful, prosperous entities... ;)
Oct 24th, 2016 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse -4For the record though, I don't believe in burning flags. Or anything really. A Troll with truth is far more effective.
And BTW... anyone notice Anglos will be Anglos has struck yet again!
“The effects of the injustices visited upon the Catalans in the 17th century need to be undone and properly resolved. ”
Hahahaha... So here we have it, an Anglo demanding the deeds of 17th century Spain be RESOLVED in the 21st century... but just the other day the same poster was wetting his pants in indignation when I advocated that one should not forget the injustices of the 19th century. Any more two-faced and you would get some sort of fourth dimensional face, where the two faces are talking contradictions on top of the other two faces....whew, must be hard to be a non-Argentine will the hypocrisies stacked up on top of other hypocrisies.
So when can people redress their grievances against England from the 17th century Marti Llazo? Or does that only apply to Spain? Idiot.
Since when is Marti Llazo an Anglo?
Oct 24th, 2016 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse +4Mr Gord
Oct 24th, 2016 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse +3It's hard to know.
Does Capi Nostrils actually live in Argentina, or is he just anti-British?
There are several pro Argie trolls who change their “nicks” according to which side of the bed they arise from!!!! Capi Nostrils is, I believe, one of them - Think is another!
Oct 24th, 2016 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse +1Fresh Flag burnig in the Britsh Isles...:
Oct 24th, 2016 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse -3http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7676214.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Neo-nazi-demo.jpg
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7676214.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Neo-nazi-demo.jpg
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7676214.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Neo-nazi-demo.jpg
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7676214.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Neo-nazi-demo.jpg
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7676214.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Neo-nazi-demo.jpg
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7676214.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Neo-nazi-demo.jpg
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7676214.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Neo-nazi-demo.jpg
Etc..., etc..., etc...
Brainwashed British turnips comentng above..... or what?
Think
Oct 24th, 2016 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse +1One picture repeated 7 times and the other 4 times. So, if I post the Arg. flag burners 27 times that makes me the winner ?
By the way, do you and Nostrils spend all your time trawling through British newspapers ?
For your education below. Orchestrated demonstrations of British flag burning probably approved by Arg. govt. I have omitted the other favourite pass time of tyre burning.
Note that these are ALL anti-British. Can you provide any RECENT examples of British burning of Argentine flags ?
/www.rt.com/uk/363665-argentina-protests-falklands-military/
.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16663452
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9087855/Argentines-burn-tyres-and-Union-Jack-at-anti-British-protest.html
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9326137/Argentine-protesters-burn-British-flag-outside-oil-HQ.html
Argie turnip !
Hmmmmmm....
Oct 24th, 2016 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse -3One of the glitches of the new MercoPress version seems to be to only allow one working link...!
Anyhow...
Just google ...:
“ Burning of EU flag in the UK”...
Choose “Images”...
And enjoy dozens of pictures of Brits..., commoners as local and national politicians..., burning the EU flag....
Brutish Brainwash anybody...?
@ CapiTroll
Oct 24th, 2016 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2”Someone above did suggest that people only burn flags of more powerful, prosperous entities... ;)“
You may actually have a point there...
”For the record though, I don't believe in burning flags. Or anything really. A Troll with truth is far more effective.“
Haha, you probably would be more effective if you actually stuck to the truth. Not believing in anything is kind of sad though.
”whew, must be hard to be a non-Argentine will the hypocrisies stacked up on top of other hypocrisies.”
I dunno. You don't seem to find it hard to slam Brexit when you want to quit the UN and ban all foreigners yourself.
@ Clyde15
Hey, did you already suspect that it was Mercopress that broke the links? I notice you missed the 'www' off all of yours. ;)
@ Think
Which national politicians have burned the EU flag? I couldn't find any.
gordo01
Oct 24th, 2016 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -3“There are several pro Argie trolls who change their “nicks” according to which side of the bed they arise from!!!! Capi Nostrils is, I believe, one of them - Think is another!”
I think you will find that it's the pro Brits trolls that change their “nicks”
As Mr. Think first illuminted the new evidence...
The attached posters image shows in past posts who has been using sock puppets..like “The Voice” who was also “Icepilot” and Lord Lucan who had the cheek to change his identity in the middle of a thread from “no lolly”....just a couple of examples.
Of course the master Sock puppeteers have realised this and will not provide an image because it betrays them...
What you will find... is that neither myself or Mr.Think have ever changed our identity...
The proof is out there....just look for it...
Now, come on Trolls display an image...if you dare...;-)))))
Mr. Voice...
Oct 24th, 2016 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Good job, my dear Watson...
Your good expat in Portugal friend Mr. James Marshall, was also using the “Mr.Greener Grass” nick...
(Or was it Mr. Greengrass... ? http://s1.dmcdn.net/LFfP9/1280x720-rn0.jpg ;-)
Clyde,
Oct 24th, 2016 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +4“the name of the game here.
People post things that I hope they would not say to anyone's face.”
Right on the spot. The name of the game here.
Speaking for myself. I have always interacted and worked with some brittish people. Some of them living here, some other through remote contacts. I even had two brittish girlfriends.
Maybe it's just a thing of my generation (40ish) but I found all these brittish I came to know to be amongst the most open minded people I have ever shared conversations with.
That`s why I feel your words are exactly right. This forum starts to look like an anger management group session.
Think
Oct 24th, 2016 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +4The difference bring that there is no country called the EU. The “flag burning ”is directed to a Quasi “state” - not against a particular country. So the burning of the EU flag is a reaction
against being dragged into an amorphous state to which we never agreed to be a constituant part.
In Argentina's state, it is the expression of a hatred of the UK - even you must see the difference, although our malevolent Troll will be unable to grasp this point.
Demon tree
No, it was just carelessness on my part.
Lowlander just above....
Oct 24th, 2016 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -3In Alba's state..., it is the expression of a hatred of the UK - even you must see the difference...”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yFXeiWnt7WU/U3dY9ojkLXI/AAAAAAAAH30/PkZPTVoWZFs/s1600/burningapron.jpg
Think
Oct 24th, 2016 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Alba? Who apart from you would call Scotland that ! I don't know anyone here who would call it that. A shower of twats in fancy dress living in a twilight world
Yes, it is probably a dislike of the Union but NOT of the constituent peoples.
In Argentina's case it is a hatred of the British people. Just look at Troll boys posts.
“Alba” is also one of the words in Spanish for “dawn” although “el amanacer” is more widely used. “Alba” is more poetic.
Oct 24th, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lowlander, second post above...
Oct 24th, 2016 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -3You ask...:
“Alba? Who apart from you would call Scotland that !”
I say...:
Them Scots?
http://www.open.edu/openlearn/ocw/pluginfile.php/772947/mod_resource/content/0/gaelic_1_cover_image_1.jpg
Clyde15
Oct 24th, 2016 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2he only Thinks he is more cleverer,
but like most argis he likes to change the subject to suit ,
Mind you, if the Falkland's claimed Patagonia Mr think could well find himself British...lol
just a thought.
One doesn't say..: “More Cleverer”, laddie
Oct 24th, 2016 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -2On says...: “Clevererer”
Chuckler, chucklerer,chucklererer...
Think
Oct 24th, 2016 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Our resident expert on all things Scottish...or so he would like to think.
“I say...:
Them Scots?”
So, approx 1.7 % of the “Scottish” population woud say Alba whereas 98% would call it Scotland.
It may be news to you that the most used language in Scotland from time immemorial was a version of Welsh/Briton..God knows what the Picts spoke.
Your Highland romantecism is a product of Sir Walter Scot furthered by Queen Victoria.
My maternal grandfather was a gaelic speaker as was one of my uncles. They referred to Scotland ..not ALBA.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/dec/11/ian-jack-saddened-by-scotland-going-gaelic
Anyway the subject was the Argie habit of burning the UK flag at any pretext
Lowlander just above...
Oct 24th, 2016 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Your maternal grandfather may surely have referred to Alba as Scotland... yesteryear...
The Scottish Tourist Board does surely refer to Scotland as Alba... today...
https://hollija.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/dsc_7193_002.jpg
The Island of Great Britain was known as ALBION by the Romans and ALBA is derived from this. Think may well be happy that Britain has been described as “perfidious Albion” as Wikipedia tells us ”Perfidious Albion is an anglophobic pejorative phrase used within the context of international relations and diplomacy to refer to alleged acts of diplomatic sleights, duplicity, treachery and hence infidelity (with respect to perceived promises made to or alliances formed with other nation states) by monarchs or governments of Britain (or England) in their pursuit of self-interest and the requirements of Realpolitik.
Oct 25th, 2016 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse +1Perfidious signifies one who does not keep his faith or word (from the Latin word “perfidia”), while Albion is derived from an ancient Celtic name for Britain.”
Lowlander, second post above...
Oct 25th, 2016 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse -3You asked...:
“Alba? Who apart from you would call Scotland that !”
I say...:
The BBC?
http://www.bbc.com/alba
Yes. A minority channel. See my reference at :-
Oct 25th, 2016 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse +2https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/dec/11/ian-jack-saddened-by-scotland-going-gaelic
There has been a backlash from Joe public about getting Gaelic pushed down our throats by the “nationalists” trying to use this as a Scottish identity which it is not.
I am all for the preservation of the gaelic tongue but is fatuous to pretend that it has any real relevance in day-to-day commercial conversations.
Why not give equal status to doric ? It is still the main tongue in many parts of Scotland.
Our national poet wrote and spoke it and if I move some miles inland from where I live, I still hear it spoken and in daily use.
Anyway, Argies still burn flags as a national sport.
So basically, anyone speaking Gaelic would be correct to call Scotland Alba? But someone speaking English like Think would not be. And the name Scotland is just as native as Alba right?
Oct 25th, 2016 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse +3Sassenachized lowlander two posts above...
Oct 25th, 2016 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse -4As a humble dweller from Patagonia..., may I call bonnie Alba Caledonia...?
Free Patagonia.
Oct 25th, 2016 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Arm the Mapuche.
*Shoot the Planter*
*One Planter, one bullet*
*Shoot the Planter*
THINK - nobody else will understand you but you are welcome to use the phrase “bonnie Alba Caledonia”. I am a citizen and resident of Albion!
Oct 25th, 2016 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +1DemonTree
Oct 25th, 2016 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So basically, anyone speaking Gaelic would be correct to call Scotland Alba? But someone speaking English like Think would not be. And the name Scotland is just as native as Alba right?”
Not really...
Alba was generally to refer to the area of the Picts....
Dalriada was the kingdom of the Scots...Argyll where I am...
The Picts were not Gaelic speakers...I think, because there is nothing left of their language..
The Scots (Gaelic speakers) amalgamated with the Picts under Kenneth MacAlipine they reckon he married a Pictish queen...
So Alba...pronounced Allabuh....is not really Gaelic....
Scottish Gaelic
Oct 25th, 2016 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +2the truth.
https://www.uni-due.de/DI/Scottish_Gaelic.htm
chuckle.
@ Voice
Oct 25th, 2016 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +2But it's used in modern Gaelic as the name of Scotland. Even if it was borrowed from Pictish or didn't originally mean Scotland, it's Gaelic now. You may as well say 'Germany' isn't English because it comes from the Latin Germania.
@ Think
Any name but the one the locals actually use, eh? Why does that seem familiar?
Think
Oct 25th, 2016 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If you wish to appear as a pretentious prat, please feel free.
However, if you wish to know what a large percentage of the Scottish population speak, in addition to English, try these sites.
http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/knowledgeoflanguage/scots/introducingscots/history/index.asp
http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/knowledgeoflanguage/scots/introducingscots/history/index.asp
http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/knowledgeoflanguage/scots/introducingscots/history/index.asp
That should keep you occupied in your howf fur a wheen o'days
Argies STILL burn flags as a national passtime.
DemonTree
Oct 25th, 2016 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -1...you may as well say Albion is Gaelic and not English then...
When in actual fact it would be best described as Brythonic or Brittonic...
The same as Alba...same derivative...
Just because Gaelic speakers use it...doesn't mean it's Gaelic...
...and it certainly never ...ever... referred to the whole of Scotland..it never included Argyll it never included Strathclyde or the lowlands or Edinburgh and Lothian down to Northumbria...
The Gaelic speakers amount to less than 1% of the population so what do they know...and who cares...
Mr Think/Voice has effectively diverted conversation away from the the uncomfortable discussion of 'his' people, the moaning Malvinistas and the impotent pouting Argie 'victims' burning flags - becuz they can't do nothin' else.
Oct 25th, 2016 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Pathetic
The more argie flag-burners make the news, the fewer the foreigners from developed countries interested in investing more than a weekend in the country.
Oct 25th, 2016 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +3@ Voice
Oct 25th, 2016 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Once you borrow a word, it's yours and becomes part of your language. If uber and guerrilla and bungalow are English words, why can't Alba be Gaelic?
And it refers to the whole of Scotland now; it's on signs. Words change meaning over time, and the Gaelic speakers get to decide what words mean in their own language, however few they are.
@ Kanye
They're just a few idiots anyway, Tarquin Fin is right. At least the current government isn't encouraging them.
D.T.
Oct 25th, 2016 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Partly true BUT the word is not in common usage among the bulk of the population.
Crossing the border from England the sign used to read, welcome to Scotland, now a nationalistic government is trying to use Alba as a definition of the country by alluding to some ancient past which they want to resurrect.
I don't see an Alba football team or Rugby team.
The unofficial anthem is Flower of Scotland NOT flower of ALBA.
Surely this subject is now dead in the water !
DemonTree
Oct 25th, 2016 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Refereed by the Scottish Govt...with their own agenda...
No one refers to it as Alba...because Scotland has never been Alba...
Mr. Think...knows quite well it is more of a Highland thing..and just likes to wind Clyde up...
By the way Bungalow is not an English word it is used in the English language, there's a difference...
The signs are a joke...
A lot of them..ie, place names like Dunoon (Gaelic (Dùn Omhain)) for instance is nonsense it is total invention...
There was never a gaelic name for Dunoon...
It's happened all over Scotland ...invented Gaelic names.
I know this because I know the Gaelic speaker that invented them...he was a teacher and he consults for the Govt on all things Gaelic...
They simply don't have equivalent words...
Especially when you consider that all of the Lowland place names are either Anglian or Brittonic...
In fact there are only 18 letters in the alphabet...it's a dead language non progressive and should be buried...
Alba indeed...it's a case of the tail wagging the dog....
Teem a poe 'n yirsail min.
Oct 26th, 2016 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse -1But what a beautiful tail..., Mr. Voice....
Oct 26th, 2016 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse -3https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MgSkOPDqYmc
So if it’s Gaelic Alba, those people from Ireland arriving on the west coast Caledonia in the 6th century, would now be called Gaels, NOT Scots.
Oct 26th, 2016 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Correct????
Scottish Gaels would be more accurate...
Oct 26th, 2016 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Like most tribes of that period the name Scoti was used by the Romans to describe the hordes that raided the West Coast during that period... just like the Picts which was a description of the people....
Lots of suggestions as to the etymology of the word, but no conclusive evidence...certainly not Latin like Picti....
Hold your horses, lads...
Oct 26th, 2016 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -3No more talk about our beloved bonnie Alba...
This thread is about protestors burning flags, tyes, religious symbols etc..., etc..., etc...
I must admit that them Argentinean flag burning demostrants are just aspiring abecedarian apprentices compared with those brute bigoted barbarian flag burning UK loyalists on Eleventh Night...
https://councillorpadraigmcshane.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dundarave_bonfire_bushmills_2013.jpg
Nb...:
Looking for nice bonfires pictures, I fell over this one...
British Brainwash starts at a very early age..., it seems...
https://councillorpadraigmcshane.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dundarave_bonfire_bushmills_2013.jpg
One sided as usual laddie. I am sure that you could find pictures of the Union flag being burned by the IRA supporters but that would negate your point.
Oct 26th, 2016 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Anyway, the subject is about Argentinians and their national sport of burning the British flag. Why ? Are they just sore losers ?
TWIMC
Oct 26th, 2016 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Looking for nice bonfires pictures, I fell over this one...
British Brainwash starts at a very early age......, it seems...
https://ansionnachfionn.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/belfast-fianna-fc3a1il-wish-all-members-of-the-grand-orange-lodge-of-ireland-a-happy-12th-of-july-2013.jpg?w=942&h=608
Speaking of all of this burning shite, we see that the new government in Argenzuela is attempting to outlaw the practice of burning tyres, even though it is this country's third-most-popular activity (after robbery and yerba-mate intoxication). It seems that some tens of thousands of used tyres are burned every year in the streets here in attempts to contaminate the local atmosphere and/or to protest some self-inflicted calamity. Read all about it:
Oct 27th, 2016 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse +3http://www.losandes.com.ar/article/quieren-prohibir-por-ley-la-quema-de-neumaticos
BTW, if you happen to pick up fruit such as peaches grown in Argentina that smell like burnt tyres, chances are that the stinking toxic slime covering the fruit is a sort of Argentine Antifreeze.
Ohh..., yes...
Oct 27th, 2016 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse -2Burning tyres...
I must admit that them Argentinean tyre burning demonstrators are just aspiring abecedarian apprentices compared with those brute bigoted barbarian tyre burning UK loyalists on Eleventh Night...
https://councillorpadraigmcshane.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dundarave_bonfire_bushmills.jpg
(And don't get me started about them brutes burning religious symbols...)
I see that you have omitted to show the Hibernian order marches with as much brain washing as the reference you have shown.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse +2I am surprised that you have not commented that this is NOT a British problem but a sectarian divide between two equally bigoted groups in N.Ireland with an overspill to central Scotland and a few cities in the UK who have a large Irish immigrant background.
The rest of the UK find this incomprehensible. So don't pretend in your usual twisted fashion that this is normal practice in the UK.
Can you show us any current demonstrations against Argentina and the burning of your flag in the UK. Current examples please and not related to the Falkland's war in 1982.
The British speak English,
Oct 27th, 2016 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +2the argies utter whatever they feel like,
and Mr Think is still fishing,
And the military exercise will carry on,
this year , next year, and every year until you argies grow up,
.
Having lived in several Latin American countries it would have been nigh on impossible to obtain a Union flag - no demand! So how or where does Quebracho obtain their supply for their frequent antics at the British Embassy in BA?
Oct 28th, 2016 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse +1Who would import Union flags just for Quebracho?
Flaco, in both Stgo and Bs As there are companies that supply foreign flags, including the Union Jack, for their respective ministerios de relaciones exteriores. Since there are so many argies who secretly wish to be British, intelligent, and successful there is actually a small but thriving market here in Union Jacks.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2But of course this is Argentina and home of ultra-nationalist Kirchnerist madness, which still lurks in the gutters and shadows. So it was no surprise that at one time, rather recently, one of the ultra-K legislators (Jorge Rivas) sponsored a bill which received a lot of KuKa support, which would have required business owners to offer clothing with the Argentine flag if that business even so much as showed an article with a foreign flag in a window. And Kirchnerismo, Stalinist to the end, included penalties with heavy fines and closure of the shop for suspected noncompliance.
No doubt if Kirchnerismo had continued, there might have been similar legislation requiring for every remera with Hello Kitty, an obligatory offering of a Che Guevarra or Mafalda t-shirt.
Kirchnerism was just fascism with Botox.
Geeeeeeeeeeeeee.....
Oct 28th, 2016 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Them Anglo turnip above...!!!
The one says...:
“Having lived in several Latin American countries it would have been nigh on impossible to obtain a Union flag...”
The other says...:
“ in both Stgo and Bs As there are companies that supply foreign flags, including the Union Jack, for their respective ministerios de relaciones exteriores.”
One wonders if those “world travelled” Turnips ever heard about them “Yellow Pages”?
Just in the Buenos Aires City, they are 34 places where one can buy flags from every Country in the World...
http://www.paginasamarillas.com.ar/buscar/ciudad-de-buenos-aires/q/banderas/
What a couple of Turnips...
What Turnip Tink failed to notice is that only a handful of those “yellowed pages” businesses deal in *foreign* flags. Of all those shops I only know of one that actually stocks Union Jacks. In our province there are zero sellers of a range of foreign flags except for those used in commercial shipping.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Now who's the turnip?
Geeeeeeeeeeeee.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -3The Anglo Turnip above complains that...: “In ”his“ province there are zero sellers of a range of foreign flags except for those used in commercial shipping.”
Well... he could try buying through internet..., I say...
http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar
What a Turnip...!!!
So there is a ready trade of Arg. internet purchasers of the Union flag to keep there sport alive. Thanks for that info.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Can these flag burners actually read ?
Think - do you actually transmit thoughts to your delicate fingers when you type your nonsense?
Oct 28th, 2016 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +1It is not the fact that Union flags seem to be readily available in Argentina to all and sundry - it is WHY they should be available so easily in Argentina? I am pretty sure that the Anglo British community certainly do not advertise their presence in Argenzuela(oops! Sorry, Argentina) - just in case! So I suppose that idiots like Quebracho and La Cámpora are the purchasers!
Lowlandish Sassenach just above
Oct 28th, 2016 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You still have the Chutzpah to comment here after saying that “Ireland is NOT a British problem but a sectarian divide between two equally bigoted groups” ???
Which one of those bonnie brown shirted brainwased boys below is you..., lad?
https://ansionnachfionn.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/belfast-fianna-fc3a1il-wish-all-members-of-the-grand-orange-lodge-of-ireland-a-happy-12th-of-july-2013.jpg?w=942&h=608
Maybe they're not so easily available, these ones appear to be homemade:
Oct 28th, 2016 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +1http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02245/argentina-falkland_2245917b.jpg
The protesters are bravely hiding their faces in this one, too.
TWIMC
Oct 28th, 2016 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -3With some 300,000 Anglo Argentineans living down here...and more than 50 expensive private Engrish schools just in the city of Buenos Aires (whOSE monthly tuition exceeds an average wage of AR$ 8000 - U$D 500)
http://www.colegiosenbuenosaires.com/colegios-privados-bilingues-ingleses-en-buenos-aires/
....., I do Think there is a market for them flags...
Tink has unwittingly validated the earlier observation that there are a large number of argentos who secretly (or otherwise) wish to be British, intelligent, educated, and successful.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Nope...
Oct 28th, 2016 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Think has unwittingly validated the logical observation that there are a large number of Ibero, Italo, German, Anglo, Franco, Moishe, Slavic, Lusitan, Scandinavian et al - Argentinean parents that are willing to pay dearly for a percieved better private school education for their offspring...
No more...
No less...
El Think
Ex alumno del Colegio (Público) Nacional de Buenos Aires...
Think
Oct 28th, 2016 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +4“this is NOT a British problem but a sectarian divide between two equally bigoted groups in N.Ireland with an overspill to central Scotland and a few cities in the UK who have a large Irish immigrant background.”
Read what I said, laddie, and don't put words in my mouth.
The sectarian division in N.Ireland is a bit of a mystery to the bulk of the population in England.
I did not say the the“Irish ” problem is also not a British problem I said the burning of flags is mainly a N.Ireland problem and anti-Roman Catholic.
If you cannae unerstaun guid English then ye are a muckle gowk.
I notice you used the expression..
No more talk about our beloved bonnie Alba...
You are not entitled to use the personal pronoun unless you dwell in the country or are an ex-pat. You are conferring on yourself a title to which you have no right to claim.
Off to watch the TV now and enjoy my sassenach Glaswegian Still Game program.
You would learn about the REAL Scotland if you watched it.
.
But he cannot understand us brutish or engrish, so he says.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Lowlandish Sassenach second post above
Oct 28th, 2016 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -4The sectarian division in N.Ireland is a bit of a mystery to the bulk of the population in England.“... you say...
Bit of a mystery,...??? I say...
Try Thinking about the Engrish invasion of Airlann some 800 years ago...
Try Thinking about the imposed Engrish yoke over Airlann for over 800 years...
Try Thinking about the Engrish imposition on Airlann of an alien religion based on Henry VIII family values...
Try Thinking about the Engrish provoked great famine in Airlann some 180 years ago...
Try Thinking about them many bloody Sundays...
Try Thinking...
Still a ”bit of a mistery” for you..., lad?
”Ex alumno del Colegio (Público) Nacional de Buenos Aires...”
Oct 28th, 2016 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +3That explains a lot!
Ha, ha, ha.
Tink: ”....willing to pay dearly for a percieved [sic] better private school education for their offspring...
Oct 28th, 2016 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +4--- Which is why they attend the private British schools. Where they learn to spell.
@ ChrisR
Oct 28th, 2016 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“it provides a free education that includes classical languages such as Latin and Greek. The school is one of the most prestigious in Argentina.”
Yes, it does explain a lot. Now I know who Think reminds me of...
@ Think
None of those things actually explain the sectarian divisions though, do they? And it was the Normans who invaded Ireland 800 years ago.
Besides, it's perfectly true that it's a bit of a mystery to the bulk of the population.
Geeeeee...
Oct 28th, 2016 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Still a bit of a mystery,...??? You say...
Let's put it in a “Non Anglo” perspective then...
Try Thinking about the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans some 500 years ago...
Try Thinking about the imposed Ottoman yoke over the Balkans for over 400 years...
Try Thinking about the Ottoman imposition on the Balkans of an alien religion based on Muḥammad ibn ʿAbdullāh ibn Abdul-Muttalib ibn Hashim's family values...
Try Thinking about the fraticidal Croatian / Serbian / Bosnian / Kosovo / Montenegro war..
Try Thinking...
Still a ”bit of a mistery” for you..., lads?
Think, you're wasting your time. The bulk of the population do not read Mercopress, and no one posting here has said it's a mystery to them.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Besides, you missed out the Plantation of Ulster from your list, which would be kind of necessary for understanding the current problems.
Ya mean.... you boyos don't consider you belong to the bulk of the Engrish population?
Oct 28th, 2016 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Are you better or lesser than them...?
Better in what way? I think I'm better informed on certain topics than the majority of people in England, yes.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +3In any case, there ain't no 'Engrish' population to belong to.
THINK
Oct 28th, 2016 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Pointless trying to discuss this with someone who does not want to understand. You and Troll boy make a perfect team.
Have you actually lived in either N.Ireland, England, Scotland or the Republic for any length of time and discussed the “politics” with both sides,
I think Darragh, if he is still posting here could put you right.
As to your obsession with the “highland” Scots, they are no different from the rest of the country. There are probably more “highlanders” living in Glasgow than in the Highlands, which are now full of English and some Dutch.
......“and some Dutch.”
Oct 28th, 2016 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Wrong again, laddie...
Helmersen, Skouboe and Houch Povlsen ain't Dutch.... they are Danes...
Helmersen is an outstanding fly angling gentleman...
Skouboe is just a fanatical hunter...
Povlsen owns more land in Alba than HM Lizzy...
Tink: “Try Thinking about the fraticidal Croatian / Serbian / Bosnian / Kosovo / Montenegro war..”
Oct 29th, 2016 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse +5First, the term is “fratricidal.”
And fratricide and its roots in “brother-killing”, refers to killing of one's own, within one's own alliances, while the conflicts you alluded to involved distinctly opposing groups historically at one another's throats, and no more fratricidal than the Franco-Prussian War. Argentina's Dirty War and the murders and disappearances of perhaps 30,000 or so of its own in quite recent times -- we might extend the definition a bit and call that a sort of fratricide, though few serious writers would.
Someone needs to go back to that old colegio.
Two examples of Argentine atrocities:
Oct 29th, 2016 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse +3https://www.hmh.org/la_Genocide_Argentina.shtml
https://www.hmh.org/la_Genocide_Argentina.shtml
Wrong again laddie. I have met plenty of Dutch people who have moved into the Highland regions not as large land owners but either to retire there or continue in employment.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse +3Several of them moved because of being based at Lossiemouth and Kinloss RAF stations. They loved the country so much that they moved with their families when they left the Klu.
You quote 3 monied DANES...that certainly puts me in my place !
But again, what do I know about my own country, I only live here.
You have set yourself up as the expert in all things Scottish...and Irish also it would appear.
So, in you lowlandish logic..., it is ok for Engrish, Dutch or Danish people, monied or not, to luuuv the bonnie highlands of Alba.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse -3Why then is it not ok for this northern lights genetically predisposed humble Patagonian to do the same...?
@ DemonTree
Oct 29th, 2016 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse +3“it provides a free education that includes classical languages such as Latin and Greek. The school is one of the most prestigious in Argentina.”
But we must remember the that anything written by an argy official is stretching the truth, if not a downright lie.
My next door neighbours sent their three lads to the British Schools and not only can they speak and write very good English they never supported Peron or the K's unlike The Lunatic of Chew Butt.
@ ChrisR
Oct 29th, 2016 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse +3I'd say Think shows all the signs of having received a 'classical' education. Besides, I expect they teach English there now, but who knows what they were teaching in the 1850's when he was a pupil.
@ Think
It's okay for you to 'luuuv' the Highlands, as long as you don't mind sounding like a 12 year old girl...
Mr. DemonTree
Oct 29th, 2016 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Luuuuuuuuuvely..., thanks
I will continue luuuuuving bonnie Alba gu bràth in me juvenile girlish style then...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGamXGi6F3Q
Nobody said you can't but you cannot say O-U-R unless you are a native.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Also the people in the “Highlands” are even different from each other by region.
Pitlochry to Inverness are now becoming cosmopolitan and probably are slightly different from those in Caithness and Easter Ross and Cromarty.
About the only place where the culture has not changed markedly are the Outer Hebrides. Lewis people are different from S.Uist and Barra mainly because of religion
Lewis is about 95% Wee Free Protestant and the southern end of the island chain are almost all Roman Catholics. Not a N.Ireland situation but still the cause of friction.
So the only constant is the geographical landscape.
.... ...... ........ ............. ..... ...... ............. ............. and their warines of sassenachs...
Oct 29th, 2016 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -3The ThinkVoice troll is a “wannabe” Scotsman,
Oct 29th, 2016 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +3His other purpose is to be divisive.
Ahhhhh...
Oct 29th, 2016 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Mr. Troy Tempest...
I notice you haven't chosen a picture of yourself yet...
What are you afraid laddie? That we can see your supermarionation control wires?
Or that we can see in Mercopress archive how many other “posters” suddenly use the same picture?
Chuckle chuckle...
Think
Oct 29th, 2016 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Well laddie, by your comments, you include me ?
Lowlander just above...
Oct 29th, 2016 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Nope..., I don't include you...
Firstly..., because I don't Think you use any the names to post in here at MercoPress...
Secondly..., becase even if you are much younger than me..., you belong to a generation that is somehow challened by them “new technologies”...
In other words...
I Think you can't find out how to add a pretty picture to your profile ;-)
Hmmm, but most of the presumably younger posters like ElaineB, Kanye and TrollBoy haven't bothered to add one either.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Picture only gives you away if you have been changing the name of the same account.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If you have another account however!
Oct 29th, 2016 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If I am younger than you, you must be Methusala..how can you still walk.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Correct, I do not know how to post an avatar on this forum although I have managed on several others.
I see no need for an iphone and my mobile phone is permanently in my car ..for emergency use only. I have perfectly good home phone with an answering machine.
I am not a technophobe but do not follow fashion. If I have a use for gadgets I will use them.
I have a powerful PC with a 500Gb. SSD , two 2TB hard drives and another 10Tb in auxilliary hard drives.
Most of the time I am either taking pictures with my Nikon 610 camera and various lenses up to 500mm. Aircraft, ships, plants and landscapes being my main interest.
As Voice suggested, for an avatar I could use one of my collection of Clyde steamers or something like that OR show a picture of Brad Pitt.
Back to my photo processing now...I have a couple of Seafires to clean up, sort the colour balance and print.
By the way, looking at your avatar it reads as “thick”. A freudian slip ?
Nope... No Methusala... Just sweet, humble Think.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Still going, riding, trekking, scrambling and packrafting strong...
Must be the mate con tortas fritas...
And still jealousy sneaks in,
Oct 29th, 2016 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +3All these centuries that has been quoted,
and the Falklands are still British
and military exercises will still continue.
@ Clyde15
Oct 30th, 2016 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse +3In the top right, it should say “Hi, Clyde15”. If you hover your mouse on that, you get a menu with the option “Edit account”. If you click on that, it takes you to a screen where you can load an image.
I dunno how you cope without a smartphone though. When I am old, I plan to horrify young people by explaining how we used to navigate with maps on paper, and there were no live updates of traffic either! And if you wanted to meet a friend, you had to specify a place and time in advance.
D.T.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse +3Followed instructions and successfully posted the WRONG picture as I was trying to see which would look best. However, it seems I am stuck with this picture of a ship in the harbour unloading phosphates instead of a picture of Dunoon pier circa 1959.
Attempts to rectify same have failed !
With a satnav in my car I don't need a smartphone. I don't switch on the directions but just glance at the map occasionally to see where I am. Traffic updates come on the radio.
One thing you might find when you are old--70 plus-is that your vision is not to hot looking at small print. I would have to take off my distance specs. and put on reading specs. to see the pictures and print. Batteries also always seem to fail when you need them. It's also another thing to carry around and lose !
Any social life I have is conducted by regular club meetings or emails/telephone calls.
I prefer sitting in front of my 32” 4K monitor where I can see in detail rather than look at something the size of a postage stamp.
@ Clyde15
Oct 30th, 2016 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse +3I just tried changing my picture and it worked. You should be able to go to the same screen and click the 'Change image' button. Then once you have loaded a new picture, you need to scroll down and click 'Save changes'.
That's a good point about vision, I'm sure I have bifocals in my future. Hopefully they will have found some other way to display information by the time I am 70. It is so useful though being able to look up train times when I'm in town or find a shop I want if I'm visiting a different city.
It doesn't work for me. I have gone through the procedure umpteen times and when I click save changes it tells me I have been successful and the same picture is there !
Oct 30th, 2016 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Lowlander, six posts above...
Oct 30th, 2016 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -3You said to me...:
“By the way..., looking at your avatar it reads as “thick”. A freudian slip ?”
I say...:
Nope..., just a 70 plus Engrish reader that forgets to take off his distance specs and put on the reading ones...;-)
By the way...
Thanks for clarifying your choice of picture
For a minute I thought that you had lost your esthetic sense as well ;-)
@ Clyde15
Oct 30th, 2016 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Weird. It's probably another Mercopress bug. Does it show the new picture after you have selected it but before you click Save changes?
@ Think
Clyde is English now? You're getting forgetful in your old age.
Mr. DemonTree
Oct 30th, 2016 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Jupppp....
As i wrote above...
Sassenach Clyde15 is an “Engrish reader”...
An auld wrong “Engrish reader” wrongly reading me Engrish nick...: “Think”...
He would be an auld “Gaelic reader” if me nick was...: “Saoil” and he misread it too...
Very clever, Engrish writer Think. He's not a Sassenach either though.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Lowlander's bird watching cousins across the pond like to say about ducks, communists and other stuff...
Oct 30th, 2016 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -4”When I see a bird that votes like a Sassenach... writes like a Sassenach... and thinks like a Sassenach,...I call that bird a Sassenach.
(Free after JWR)
I have no idea what think is havering about. If you look at his avatar it is sliced horizontally through the middle. The letter n can be easily taken for a c.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +3As to changing my avatar I followed this procedure.
Edit account --change image--choose picture--double click--goes back to edit screen--picture does not appear--click on save changes--green bar with ”information successfully updated appears--old picture still there.
How does a sassenach think from a Scot --please tell and how would a Spanish speaking ARGENTIAN know. Your knowledge of Scots seems to be based on monied foreigners who have bought up our land
Clyde
Oct 30th, 2016 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“How does a sassenach think from a Scot --please tell and how would a Spanish speaking ARGENTIAN know. Your knowledge of Scots seems to be based on monied foreigners who have bought up our land”
Think and his “Scots” knowledge and personas are from outdated stereotypes, caricatures, wikidemia, and Bing's top ten findings.
Scratch a little deeper. You'll find a jealous bitter Commie underneath - the Obsolete Man.
Lowlander just above...
Oct 30th, 2016 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Good thing you can't change you atavar to that picture of Dunoon pier circa 1959....
Knowing you, it would surely include that Campbell (buitseach, buitseach, buitseach) lass statue...
You say...:
“Your knowledge of Scots seems to be based on monied foreigners who have bought up our land”
I say...:
More like some monied foreigners knowledge of Scotland could well be based on Think...
I used to fish them highland with the Kirk patriarch... before they bought your land...
This is very off-topic.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +1If I remember correctly, the story is about the
Land-Stealing *Argentines*
The Land-Stealing Argentines are philosophically related to the Thread-Stealing Argentines.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2@ Clyde15
Oct 30th, 2016 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +2I followed what you did and got a broken link as my picture. It does seem to be a bug. Instead of double clicking to select your picture, try clicking on it once and then clicking Open. Or if that doesn't work, try picking a different image. It was refusing to load one specific picture for me just now, very weird.
It should show the new picture after you load it, before you click Save changes.
@ Think
I suppose you mean that he doesn't vote the way you would like, or think the way you would like, or write what you would like, so you accuse him of not being a true Scotsman.
In reality people from every country disagree with each other and often think quite differently. It doesn't make them any less patriotic.
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