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Argentine private aircraft makes a direct Rio Gallegos flight to the Falklands for a four-day visit
Four Argentines who flew straight across from Rio Gallegos to Stanley airport in a private Beechcraft 55 and spent four days in the Falkland Islands, had only words of praise for the way they were considered and treated during the two months previous paperwork and when they finally reached their goal of visiting battle fields, cemeteries to honor the 1982 combatants who never returned. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFinally the La Nacion piece points out that on leaving and on arrival to Rio Gallegos, there was no migration or customs checks since “they were always in Argentine territory”.
Oct 26th, 2016 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse +3Funny because the Falklands have never legally been owned by Argentina: https://www.academia.edu/17799157/Falklands_-_Some_Relevant_International_Law
“Finally the La Nacion piece points out that on leaving and on arrival to Rio Gallegos, there was no migration or customs checks since “they were always in Argentine territory”.”
Oct 26th, 2016 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse +2Of course dear, of course.
Clearly, the two months of paperwork to enable this flight to take place was just for show then.
Ah, the argies, you can bribe one, but you can't buy one. Apologies to TTSS.
“Ah, the argies, you can bribe one, but you can't buy one”
Oct 26th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +5One of the oldest expressions about Argentina is that the way to make your fortune is to buy an Argentine for what he's really worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth. (....comprar a un argentino por lo que realmente vale, y venderlo por lo que dice que vale. ...)
One has to wonder what sort of treatment might have been involved had an islander wished to fly a similar aircraft into Argentina. On arrival, probably the same neanderthals that worked over the Jeremy Clarkson vehicles with stones.
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“they were always in Argentine territory”.
Of course, in typical MercoPiss fashion, the article failed to cover the formalities involved in which the occupants had to present passports and enter and leave Falkands territory under local jurisdiction and regulations, which were something other than Argentine.
Should have read Argentine and BRITISH not English
Oct 26th, 2016 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +2“two months previous paperwork”
Oct 26th, 2016 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“no migration or customs checks”
Indian Murdering Creole Planter Bastard speak with forked tongue, me thinks.
Either that or we will soon be shooting down swarms of them.
Was it Paul Cedron....
Oct 26th, 2016 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1He did say........
The blokes who were interviewed seem to be a bit confused about where they really went. They claimed to have been to some place called “Puerto Argentino” and of course there is no such place in the Falklands.
Oct 26th, 2016 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +7What a load of bollocks! Condescending remarks by these gauchos!
Oct 27th, 2016 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse +1“had only words of praise for the way they were considered and treated during the two months previous paperwork”
Oct 27th, 2016 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Even though the paperwork would not have mentioned Puerto Argentino on it? Sounds to me like '1833' where Argentines make sweeping statements whilst ignoring the detail.
Marti,
Oct 27th, 2016 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“One has to wonder what sort of treatment might have been involved had an islander wished to fly a similar aircraft into Argentina. On arrival, probably the same neanderthals that worked over the Jeremy Clarkson vehicles with stones.”
If “they were always in Argentine territory” then there'd be no problem at all. ;-)
This could be an interesting loophole for anyone wanting to get into Argentina without a passport check. Of course, the return journey might be a problem... ;-)
Out of interest, was is detected on radar, did the RAF intercept it,
Oct 27th, 2016 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and if it was [ spies ] what was to have stopped them gathering information or any damage.
“...was is detected on radar, did the RAF intercept it,...”
Oct 27th, 2016 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +6-- Yes it was on ATC radar and no reason to intercept since the flight plan was known and the arrival was previously coordinated, permitted, and announced.
Argentine and Chilean nationals can take advantage of the visa waiver programme. However, visiting Argentines must present a valid passport, for obvious reasons. Arriving passengers are liable to pay an embarking fee of the equivalent to about 22 UK pounds (payable in equivalent US dollars but not in Argie pesos). Landing and parking fees are payable in similar hard currency (no pesos).
Peat Cutting Monday is a legal holiday. The Falkland Islands Civil Aviation Department is closed on that day.
The English language is required for communications with Falkland Islands air traffic services, including meteorological services.
The Falkland Islands Civil Aviation Department issues operating permits for overflight and landing within the Falkland Islands and for transiting the Falkland Islands controlled airspace ( “Controlled Traffic Region”). These permits are mandatory and are issued IAW Article 135 of the UK Statutory Instrument 2013 No. 2870. Likewise, flights into the Falkland Islands airspace are conducted in accordance with the same Regulation. The FI makes certain exceptions to ICAO regulations and a unique set of related requirements must be observed.
One does not simply fly into Mordor.
A show of goodwill from both Argentine citizens and Islanders--promptly dismissed by party-pooper Marti, who brings us his usual dosis of bitterness against anything Argentine. Hey, he is so alarmed that both Islanders and Argentines may see each other as human beings, he has already written a small treatise on Argentines-bad in just a couple comments!
Oct 28th, 2016 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse -2This is only to answer the previous comments of Marti Llazo. In the hypotetical case of a British private plane (coming from the Falklands) wishing to land in an argentine airport, I am not quite sure that our reaction would have been as he imagines. And regarding Jeremy Clarkson, his liscence plate FKL82 was clearly offensive for us. Nevertheless I am one of the many argentines who think that friendship and goodwill are the way to follow in order to reach to an understanding in this long standing issue. With my very best rergards
Oct 28th, 2016 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse +3I would be very very careful about allowing any more flights from anywhere in Argentina to land in the Falklands . and going a little further , I would never have allowed the words Malvinas to be used on the Argentinian war memorial either.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse -1“And regarding Jeremy Clarkson, his liscence plate FKL82 was clearly offensive for us.”
Oct 28th, 2016 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse +3So being offended by a *license plate* justifies attacking him and his crew to the extent that crazed mob did?
I know there's a Malvinista element that doesn't like *anything* that either refers to the liberation of the British Falklands or the fact that they are British, but come on!
So if I see an argie licence plate which coincidentally includes the number 666 and I happen to belong to some strange cult, according to argie logic I am afforded the right to pulverise with stones the offending vehicle because I perceive an offense?
Oct 28th, 2016 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2How very Argentine.
Small wonder that the world perceives them having bones in their noses, eating grubs, and living in thatched chozas.
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Marti....you write a lot of crap.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -3argentolands,
Oct 28th, 2016 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Some of the subtlety can be difficult to comprehend at first. Keep trying.
Marti Llazo
Oct 28th, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[ was is detected on radar, did the RAF intercept it
thanks for the reply.
Aircraft approaching the Falkland Islands are observed by several overlapping radars. Depending on the altitude of the aircraft, the nominal detection range is generally at least 200 nautical miles for the air-traffic control systems. The tactical radars and related early warning systems have other capabilities and I think there are three or four remote (tactical - air defence) radar sites around the islands and you definitely don't want to be illuminated in track mode by any of them. And remember, even if your aircraft is not squawking as it should, there is always at least one imaging radar that can tell who you are, right down to the model of your little aeroplane.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Approaching aircraft are obligated to begin initiating radio contact with the FI air-space control at not less than 250 nautical miles using either the 131.500 or 132.500 MHz frequencies specified for contacting “Island Radar” and then there are additional freqs for the Mt Pleasant approach and tower. The 250 nm announcement is thought to be so that an approaching aircraft presents no surprises when it comes up on the radar. ATC and Air Defence really don't like surprises.
Marti..he's right...you do write a lot of crap....
Oct 28th, 2016 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -1If I drove around your town with a licence plate that coincidentally read...
URA SPIC
That would be OK...?
If you display something that people find offensive...don't be surprised when trouble finds you...
I can't think of many countries where the content of a number plate drives the natives to Stone Age frenzies. In fact, Argentistan is the only one that comes to mind, and the characteristic speaks volumes about the exceedingly thin veneer of civilisation credited to the populace.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse +2Indeed. Compare it to the time Top Gear competed against their German counterparts, D Motor.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The team arrived in Spitfires, made comments about the Italian made cars “switching sides”, and a hell of a lot more references to WW2. At no point, IIRC, did the D motor team or their supporters take offense or act violently.
Mind you, Germany doesn't have any kind of popular movement claiming they have the rights to Poland or any of the other national territories invaded and occupied by Germany in WW2, nor do they teach their children anything of the sort.
Argentina on the other hand has the Malvinas Lie, and all of the issues that entails.
Luis Enrique
Oct 31st, 2016 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +1If Clarkson et al had wanted to be offensive then surely the number plate would have been MAL982 after all you call the Falkland Islands the 'M' word don't you?
This was clearly a manufactured 'offense' by the Argentines.
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer, and imitator extraordinaire
Nov 01st, 2016 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“If you display something that people find offensive...don't be surprised when trouble finds you…” Another 'argument of ignorance.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
“Well the number-plate is the old sequence : H982 FKL
H is the old year code, H meaning the car was first registered in 1991
FKL - Is the area code, FKL is maidstone in Kent.
982 - Is the sequence, so this is the 982nd car to be registered in the maidstone area in 1991”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Luis Enrique
Nov 01st, 2016 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“And regarding Jeremy Clarkson, his liscence plate FKL82 was clearly offensive for us”
Why? You use a mickeymouse name derived from Welsh to name the Falkland Islands.
So, how could the prefix FKL offend you when you prefer to call the islands 'Sour Grapes/Bad Vines? Your fantasy name for the Falklands begins with the Letter M, not the letter F.
If I were a frenchie and saw an American wearing a t-shirt that read “Grand Tetons” -- should I be mortally offended and thus justified in throwing rocks? Or an Israeli visitor should be violently enraged upon learning that Barcelona's Montjuïc means “Jews Hill” ? Probably not. Most of the world is more civilised than Argentina.
Nov 01st, 2016 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1There are at least three areas in which the argies can be reliably expected to behave like enraged gutter animals: driving, football, and the Falklands. The dangerous entertainment derived from observing them is priceless.
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