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Russian Task Force passes through Gibraltar Strait; Spain denies refueling at Ceuta
Russia has withdrawn a request to refuel its warships in Ceuta, after Spain became the subject of international criticism, from the NATO secretary general among others. Spain had recently signed statements accusing Russia of war crimes in Syria, where it’s believed the ships are headed. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAnd Spain has the cheek to maintain its Gibraltar sovereignty claim. A worthless claim: Gibraltar - Some Relevant International Law: https://www.academia.edu/10575180/Gibraltar_-_Some_Relevant_Internationa...
Oct 27th, 2016 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse +3Time for Spain to move on...
Here we go again. The BRITISH stocking the “conscience” angle on everyone else as if someone had actually appointed them the moral authorities of Planet Earth.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse -4I would be quite refreshing if one day, just one day, they applied it to themselves.
Syria... direct domino effect from Iraq. Who went into Iraq and blew open the powder cake that is that region?
What a bunch of repugnant hypocrites. I hope the general population of the UK is not as completely blind of the history and facts as their deplorable, outright vomit-inducing political figures who think their sh!t smells better than everyone elses.
Do I detect an embarrassed silence from Madrid ? Russia has let them off the hook this time.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse +4It will be interesting to see Israel's reaction to this fleet swanning about the eastern med.
It could be a recipe for disaster if “provocative ” acts are made by either side.
It's a shame really. They could have slipped in some Redex to clean that old rust bucket up a bit.....or some sand to stop it in its tracks.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse +1Of course, utter silence from the two British commentators above. So I think I may have overestimated the British population being less duplicitous than their representatives.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse -5Is it on the conscience of those that allowed British ships to refuel back in 2003 that they in fact did so? Will this “honorably” dishonorable defense minister ever come out and say that much?
@The Troglol: Curious. I thought it was the Americans that went to Iraq.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +5I wonder whether it's possible to see a difference between allowing ships of a fellow EU member state and NATO “ally” to refuel and doing the same for a non-member and NATO enemy? Perhaps spain needs the money? Perhaps spain has no morals?
What makes me laugh is when Spain want to thwart an EU deal with the UK, when the failure of a deal means no Spanish fishing vessels in UK waters, tariffs being applied to all the Spanish produce exported to the UK, and no more British taxpayers money for the Spanish to sponge off. And they are trying to get Europe on side against the UK and Gibraltar for the last 6 years ,by. wait for it, refuelling Russian ships in one of their Moroccan colonies! And apparently the ban by the Catalonians of the disgracefully archaic and cruel practice of Bullfighting, has been overturned by the Spanish government. Is Spain the most archaic and out of touch country in Europe or the most blatantly stupid??
Oct 27th, 2016 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +4'Pyotr Velikiy' Would this be the same “battlecruiser” that was reported a few years ago by a Russian Admiral as being so badly maintained that it was in danger of blowing up?
Oct 27th, 2016 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +3@ToTAllY_OfFMyTRoLLy_TrolL
Oct 27th, 2016 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +4So what are you saying here Toby, you approve of what the Russians are doing Syria/Aleppo????
That is actually the question here!!!!!
So concentrate hard and try and give us an actual answer to the actual question asked.
What is your position on Russian actions in Syria now, today?
@darragh
One of the escort ships for the carrier is a Tug, goes with it everywhere it breaks down so often.
A tug accompanying the fleet. What other “navy” does this remind you of.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Of-his-trolley
You did read the heading of this column. If so, then your comprehension is at fault.
You immediately deviate into a completely different topic. How typical of the uninformed.
The Syrian people rose up against a brutal dictator who did, as dictators do, savagely turned against his own people.
This has culminated in his bombing his people with poison gas, barrel bombs dropped indiscriminately on civilian population and asking help from the bastion of peace...Russia.
Now the screw has been turned tighter. An UN aid convoy bombed by the Russians, schools and hospitals specifically attacked...see the videos.
Bunker busting bombs dropped on multi story flats. All attempts at a cease fire thwarted.
Are they attacking isis...hardly. That is up to the NATO forces backing the rebel groups.
So, it's all Britain's fault ! For a self proclaimed genius, you do write a lot of drivel passing off personal prejudice as incisive comment and insight.
KepiTroll: “Who went into Iraq and blew open the powder cake that is that region?”
Oct 27th, 2016 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +3It's “powder keg” Kepi. Not cake.
And the lid was blown off the keg long before any recent British intrusions. The region has been unstable for dozens, nay, hundreds of years. If you might wish to point to an event that could be considered to have significantly altered balances and trends in recent decades, that would probably be Iraq's 1990 invasion.
Now waiting for Kepi's lucid account of how the UK produced the Zika outbreak and suicided Nisman.
Apparently the brits led with the pressure,
Oct 27th, 2016 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +3and the Russians are now refuelling of north Africa,
But can the Spanish really be trusted.
I don't understand the problem. The Russian fleet has a refueling tanker with them.
Oct 27th, 2016 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Was it just a chance to make political capital ?
The Russians passed by England and not fogged?
Oct 28th, 2016 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -4I wonder in fear of the English ...... hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilb2XH-p1PY&index=19&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
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The Russians passed by England and not fogged?
Oct 28th, 2016 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Why Fogged??
I wonder in fear of the English
Why, did the engrish drake come to meet them ? lol
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France ?? I thought you was referring to the Russians and Engrish, lol
Basurero is sooooo very confused.
Oct 28th, 2016 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Reading Brainso’s posts makes you wonder if Zika virus hasn’t been around in Brazil for much longer than was thought.
Oct 29th, 2016 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +1The Russian fleet may well be impressive,
Oct 29th, 2016 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +1but most of it is old and outdated ,
mind you the Elizabeth could do with more firepower.
“Reading Brainso’s posts makes you wonder if Zika virus hasn’t been around in Brazil for much longer than was thought....”
Oct 29th, 2016 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Basurero's comments sound more like the results of tertiary syphilis.
The bottom line is UK government are a bunch of shameless face pus-filled jackals who have no morals and decency, nor any brains or truth behind them, and still they think they have the right to judge everyone else on morality. The best thing to do is to ignore them for the helpless rabid ethnocentrists they are. The EU and Russia should actually tell them if any of their ships stray of their confines they will be followed neck and neck as a proven danger to world peace.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse -4The UK caused the Iraq war, and how typically weasle-ish of the British here to instead of taking responsibility, go and hide like mouses behind the “Americans”. Nope, can't do that, the whole world knows it was you.
In fact the UK has more responsibility and blame for all of this, including what is going on now, because their support of the US granted the whole act of barbaric aggression against the Iraqi People a iota of “legitimacy”. Had the UK not supported the US, with France also against, and Russia and China also opposing it, and Germany and Italy vocally against intervention, the USA would have been completely humiliated.
Troll boy
Oct 30th, 2016 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse +2Come on, don't be shy, tell us what you REALLY think.
“The EU and Russia should actually tell them if any of their ships stray of their confines they will be followed neck and neck as a proven danger to world peace.”
What military organisation IS the EU ? What naval vessels does it command.
Why are the Baltic states and Poland asking for NATO's backing and British troops and aircraft to be based there ?
Your diatribe reminds me of the hackneyed phrases used by the Sino-Sovioet block in the 1950's. Hyenas and running dogs of Capitalism omitted.
“the whole world knows” A hackneyed Argentine synonym for “I know nothing”
At least your posts generate amusement.
Hmmm, so “Prime Minister Theresa May has refused to condemn Spain”, but they've been criticised by the NATO secretary general among others.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2And CapiTroll is complaining about Britain using the conscience angle? Spain have been refuelling Russian vessels for years at their totally-not-a-colony Ceuta, and I don't remember hearing anyone condemn them. Now they have actually signed statements accusing Russia of war crimes in Syria, it would clearly be wrong for them to help Russian ships on the way there.
And Spain also supported the US in the Iraq war to begin with, why not blame them for it Capi?
Kepi's assertion that the UK initiated the Iraq war is truly hilarious. And revealing. Everybody knows that Canada started the war. Blame Canada.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Old Capi just comes up with outrageous statements to try and get a reaction.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Just ignore him and he'll go away and play with his Lego for a while.
Although eventually, when he gets tired of his plastic interlocking blocks, he'll come back as one of his alter egos spouting the same old tired nonsense.
Actually Marti I think you're wrong. It wasn't the Canadians it was the Amish.
I have overwhelming evidence it was the Canadian Mennonites who convinced the Yanks and the pus-filled jackals that they should assemble a mighty coalition to take down Hussein.
Oct 30th, 2016 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +3I read it in Página12. The same place I learned that the Argies had sunk the UK aircraft carrier HMS Invincible in the 1982 Falklands war.
Capi could well be think in disguise, or visa versa.
Oct 31st, 2016 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Mr Briton
Nov 01st, 2016 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse +1Quite easily. He works on the principle of producing sheer volume of anti-English bile.
Do you 'think' the RTV Belittle Britain, star from Dunoon figures in there?
Possibly .he may
Nov 02nd, 2016 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Commenting for this story is now closed.
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