Britain's Supreme Court said Tuesday it has set aside four days starting on December 5 to hear the government's appeal against a landmark ruling that it must seek parliament's approval to start the Brexit process. All 11 Supreme Court judges will hear the case, which could delay Britain's withdrawal from the European Union, and will deliver their judgment probably in the New Year, a court statement said. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHe repeated the government's refusal to set out its strategy to MPs in advance, saying it would “wreck the negotiation”.
Nov 09th, 2016 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“We won't achieve a good negotiation outcome if this is a negotiation being run by 650 people in this House of Commons or nearly 900 in the Lords,” he said.
“No negotiation in history has been run that way. Indeed, if parliament insists on setting out a detailed minimum negotiating position, that will quickly become the maximum possible offer from the negotiating partners.”
Now somebody needs to go explain this in words of one syllable to dear Nicola.
And the overblown 'model' who brought the action for her own and her husbands reasons.
Nov 09th, 2016 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Labour has now stated that they will not vote against article 50,
Nov 10th, 2016 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then stated they will, they wont , they will, they wont , they will, they wont,
cant trust them.
No-one is saying they will vote against Article 50. That's not the reason for this case.
Nov 10th, 2016 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The case established that Parliament is the sovereign body of the UK. It cannot be circumvented by a small clique of ministers in order to pursue their own agenda regarding Brexit and what path the successor negotiations are likely to take.
Davis and Fox don't have that authority. Why he is blustering about 'playing your poker hand' is clear to see - he has some idea what he's going to do, knows it is harmful and doesn't want to have to explain it or justify it to Parliament. He prefers to do dodgy little secret deals with Nissan etc. and then hide it behind his bullshit.
Brexit is a vote for the sovereignty of Parliament , you cried.
Judges uphold the sovereignty of Parliament.
Treason! Enemies of the people you cry.
So what was it all about? Why does Carlos Ghosn know more about it than your elected representatives are allowed to hear? Is that the new post-truth democracy? Bit of a sham, isn't it?
The reason for this case is to force a vote in parliament, to obstruct/put conditions on Brexit, nothing else.
Nov 10th, 2016 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Parliament passed the legislation to hold the referendum on the issue in the first place. The Government are now putting into effect the decision, no one is circumventing anything.
The mistake was not making the referendum result binding in law, when the legislation for the referendum was drawn up and passed, then this couldn’t happen. As the Scottish indyref1 referendum was, no calls for a vote in Parliament to sanctify that result, was there.
And if the result of that referendum had been different then both governments would have gone into closed negations, no questions asked, interest groups lobbying of course.
Frustrating though it is, this is the only way to get a good result from a negotiation. Negotiations are about give and take, the art is to give something of low value to yourself to get something of high value in return.
If anything is even said about minimum requirements then they know exactly what their maximum offer is, and you’re fucked, proper fucked.
If you don’t trust your elected representatives to do the job then change them, don’t send them in there with their hands tied behind their backs to get scalped, or if you do then don’t complain about the result.
It would be completely irresponsible for the government to say anything about anything just now. You will note there are no such calls for upfront debate in Europe, they are not saying anything.
A lesson in that.
Parliament is the sovereign body of the UK.
Nov 10th, 2016 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0S where was this parliament and sovereignty when it sat back and let all that power be transferred to the EU,
or is parliament only interested when it suits them.
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