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Cristina Fernandez demands the immediate start of oral trial proceedings in the dollar futures case

Tuesday, November 15th 2016 - 08:40 UTC
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Argentine ex president Cristina Fernandez has desisted from appealing her prosecution on charges of fraudulent administration in detriment of the Argentine state in the so called “dollar futures” case involving the Central bank sale of US currency and demands an immediate oral trial. Read full article

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  • MerryEnglander

    Good to see the old dear still hasn't lost the habit of “demanding”.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Conqueror

    I didn't know that a criminal could “demand” anything.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    A rather unfortunate picture of K. combined with---“has expressed her willingness of an oral trial ! Probably just my mucky mind.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Marti Llazo

    MercoPiss writers can't seem to do a decent job of translating from the articles that appear in the major media here. The “demand” translation in this piece doesn't seem accurate and may even be deliberately misleading. Even the source article in Clarín used the word “pedir” -- in the context that is probably “request.” ( “Cristina Kirchner pidió ir a juicio oral en la causa dólar futuro....La defensa de la ex presidenta presentó un escrito en el que le pidió al juez Bonadio acelerar el proceso.”) In no reliable local media report do I find a legitimate equivalent indicating “demand.”

    You really can't trust the garbage translations that MercoPiss buys on the cheap. Their writer-wannabe-interns seem to be taking local media stories that are already poorly done, and degrading them further.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • ElaineB

    @ML I think we have had this problem before with translating to 'demand'. It really does change the whole connotation of the text.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    EB- it's like trying to get the chilenos to properly translate “navegar” as “sailing” and not as “navegate.” Their “translators” are so bad they'd be better off using machine translation. That's why we see their publicity for things like “On the first day of our navegation we will....bla bla bla” Frankly the argies in general do a much better job of translation in most of their tourism material. But so much of what is used by MercoPiss is just amateurish.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @ML Some enterprising students could easily work their way around Chile offering to correct the poor translations in return for a meal in a restaurant or a free night in an hotel. On the other hand it would deny me my amusement at some of the mistakes. I have come across it in Argentina but less so. I am guessing that is because tourism in Chile is still in its infancy.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Really, you could not find anything meaningful to say, Conqueror?

    I agree with Clyde--you can see some media's venom even in the choice of pics.

    Nonetheless, here's some food for thought:

    They said Cristina was going to seek an elected position to be protected from prosecution. She didn't. Not only that--she is challenging the judge to go ahead ASAP and demonstrate her guilt through proper trial.

    They said Cristina has money stashed somewhere--they searched her properties with excavators and found nothing--nada, zilt.

    They said Cristina is corrupt--but the only one who was prominently featured in the Panama Papers case was the current president, Mauricio Macri (only one in five presidents worldwide to get the honour). There are not offshore accounts in Cristina's name.

    They said Cristina was going to run away. Instead, she is now defending her name as a simple citizen.

    They said Cristina is hated by the people. Why, she's got 45 per cent positive image.

    In a word, Cristina rocks. And Macri sucks.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Marti Llazo

    I agree that tourism in Chile is in its infancy, just as the concept of “anything worth doing should be done at least halfway decently” is also still very much in a larval stage.

    It's interesting visiting the nicer hotels and restaurants in southernmost Chile. They hire Argentines and Colombians - well trained, experienced, and trilingual - for reception, wait staff, and master chefs. They hire chilenos to wash dishes and change the sheets.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    Enrique,

    It is in the best interest of Argentina that Cristina is either found guilty or innocent through proper trial ASAP.

    Just a word of caution though. The fact that no offshore accounts have been found with her name on it, doesn´t mean much either nor does that fact alone prove her innocent.


    What saddens me the most is that everybody seems to be focusing on Cristina alone but the real problem lies in many ex-officials and oportunistic enterpreneurs. Those are the ones that got the larger part of the dough.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • ElaineB

    @ML Ha!

    I don't entirely agree with the division of staff duties. I have met plenty of bi and trilingual Chileans working in senior positions in the hotel industry. The problem with the South of Chile is that not many Chileans want to work there. It might be reasonably well paid but it is seasonal, remote and boring. Most only seem to go there if they really cannot get anything else or are saving for a one-off high-priced item. There is nothing to do or spend money on off duty. That is the feedback I get.

    I think in general staff in the restaurant/hotel industry is pretty poor in both countries save the large foreign owned hotels where they get some good training. Apparently the best waiters in SoAm are the Colombians. I hear that a lot but haven't experienced it.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Sr. Massot
    Hear.., hear...


    Tarquin Fin...
    You say...:
    What saddens me the most is that everybody seems to be focusing on Cristina alone but the real problem lies in many ex-officials and oportunistic enterpreneurs. Those are the ones that got the larger part of the dough.

    I say...:
    What saddens me the most is that everybody seems to be focusing on Cristina alone but the real problem lies in many officials and oportunistic enterpreneurs. Those are the ones that get the larger part of the dough.

    As we say in multicultural Patagonia...
    Cachaí...?

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Tarquin Fin

    Think,

    Many ex-officials have been recycled by the system. The likes of De Vido & Co. You know what I´m saying, don´t you?

    Others have made their way into the new administration.

    And of course there are other crooks who came into office with the new administration.

    Crooks have no ideals.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Tarqin Fin

    If you mean what you write above..., how is it possible that you focus all your energy, anger and even hate on despicable but, in the grand scheme of things, quite small bottom feeding fish as Lázaro Báez and José Ĺopez..., whilst a biiig white shark as Ángelo Calcaterra swims happily free and uncontrolled, stealing, in one week, double as much as Jose & Lazaro did in twelve years...?

    Show a bit of consistency pebete ...

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Marti Llazo

    A number of Kirchnerists from the CFK regime have gotten themselves into elected offices that provide them with immunity from prosecution while they are in office. It's going to take some time. The list is long; the corruption deep.

    Nov 15th, 2016 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Enrique Massot

    While the larger newspapers, radio and television stations in Argentina do their best to keep the public focused on the alleged corruption of the past government, as Think rightly exemplified with José López and Angelo Calcaterra (President Macri's cousin) as well as Nicolás Caputo, huge dubious operations are closed.
    That is the reason why Cristina Fernández' request that an audit of public works in Argentina be conducted is not going to happen.

    Nov 16th, 2016 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • golfcronie

    Enrique
    Everyone according to you in Argentina is corrupt, and I concur wholeheartedly, I have had first hand experience of it.

    Nov 16th, 2016 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Jack Bauer

    @Clyde15
    Couldn't help but having the same reaction.....

    @Reekie
    “I agree with Clyde--you can see some media's venom even in the choice of pics”

    I may be wrong but I don't think so...you Reekie, misunderstood the subtlety of Clyde15's comments - they weren't intended to defend poor K, more like taking the piss....

    “They said Cristina was going to seek an elected position to be protected from prosecution. She didn't. ”

    Very likely because she wouldn't win....not because she's an honest soul.

    “They said Cristina has money stashed somewhere--they searched her properties with excavators and found nothing--nada, zilt.”

    Do you really think she would bury her loot in her back garden ? how old-fashioned you are.

    “There are not offshore accounts in Cristina's name.”

    Really, did she tell you, personally ? and you believed her ? More likely, “none that they have found - yet”..

    “They said Cristina was going to run away. Instead, she is now defending her name as a simple citizen”

    Where would she run to that she couldn't be brought back by Interpol ? as to defending herself like a 'simple citizen' is quite an understatement ....where is the money coming from to pay for her 'expensive' lawyers, you know, the sort that the common folk hire ?

    Reekie, see that you continue blind and naive as always.

    Nov 16th, 2016 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Enrique Massot

    Clyde:

    Old fashioned?
    Not me but perhaps the judge who ordered the searches using excavators.


    “Where's the money to pay for CFK lawyers.”
    Are you for real?
    Do you suggest a former Argentine president is crooked if she pays lawyers? Was she on minimum wage? Your subtlety amazes me!

    ”They haven't found it (Cristina offshore accounts) yet.”
    Come on. They've been looking everywhere, and Clarin and Jorge Lanata made a lot of noise about the Seychelles--nothing came out of it.
    But have faith--keep hoping. (Said the rabbit).

    Nov 17th, 2016 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Reekie is complaining that the judicial process is taking too long, and would prefer a faster trial so that he could subsequently complain of a kangaroo court.

    Last time I did a count there were 9 federal courts in Argentina with cases pending against Kirchner and the Kirchnerites, involving some 33 criminal cases against them. I think one of the judges has at least 8 of those cases. There have been no reports I am aware of, of any inappropriate denial of judicial appeals, and the investigations and prosecutions appear to be proceeding according to established measures. It is greatly to the credit of the Argentine judiciary that the proceedings are being handled openly and in accordance with those established practices.

    Maybe reekie will leave Argentina in symbolic protest against the judiciary. Hey, wait!

    Nov 17th, 2016 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    @Reekie

    “Do you suggest a former Argentine president is crooked if she pays lawyers? Was she on minimum wage? Your subtlety amazes me!”

    Your 'amazement' confirms your naivety.
    How much d'you think she earned while president ? If Macri earns about US$ 9,000 per month, she must have earned less...considering inflation and all that....so, one month's salary would pay for about 9 hours of a top-notch lawyer...or do you believe La Kretina would settle for less ??....of course not, she's tapping into her (illegal) savings account, wherever it's stashed...

    Nov 19th, 2016 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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