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MI certifies Trump's win, Stein sticks to recount plans in WI, PA but nothing will change

Tuesday, November 29th 2016 - 09:38 UTC
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Jill Stein was surprisingly successful raising funds to question Donald Trump's victory. George Soros suspected of being the mysterious philantropist  Jill Stein was surprisingly successful raising funds to question Donald Trump's victory. George Soros suspected of being the mysterious philantropist

Electoral officials for the state of Michigan certified Monday that Donald Trump won by 10,704 votes out of nearly 4.8 million to claim all of its 16 electoral votes. Green Party nominnee Jill Stein said she would continue with her petitions for vote recounts in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, although it would have taken a reversal in all three states for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton to reach the presidency.

 Questions raise as to how Stein got so quickly all her new funding, which largely surpasses her total campaign expenditures. There are leads pointing at billionaire George Soros.


Although Donald Trump's victory was ratified Monday by Michigan's Board of State Canvassers and although it would be necessary to overturn results in all three states under scrutiny (Michigan plus Wisconsin and Pennsylvania) to stop the Republican winner from taking office next year, Green Party candidate Jill Stein said she would be filing on Wednesday for a manual vote recount.

Meanwhile, the Wisconsin Election Commission agreed to a ballot recount of nearly 3 million votes in the state’s presidential election but rejected a Green Party request for a hand recount. “It is a matter of looking at the ballot and tabulators agreeing on either a hand count to agree what the vote is or examining the ballot and putting it back into the voting equipment,” Mike Hass, Wisconsin Elections Commission said on Monday.

Hass said before that happens a series of steps have to happen first including reconciling election materials like poll lists and absentee ballot materials. “There are technical and procedural steps they must take to ensure the number of voters that are marked on the poll list as voting matches the numbers of ballots that are being counted.” The recount may begin as early as Thursday. The Wisconsin Election Commission gave counties until noon Monday to submit estimated costs for the efforts so that Green Party candidate Jill Stein could be billed. If she or Independent candidate Rocky De Le Fuente fail to pay the full costs by Tuesday, no recount will be ordered.

Stein is also busy with her Michigan and Pennsylvania plans. ”What the voting technology experts tell us is that you cannot tell unless you're actually counting paper votes,“ she said. ”And I don't think the FBI has done that.“

”(The fundraised money) is all going into a dedicated recount fund that is not accessible to the campaign,“ she said. ”We don't expect there to be money to leftover. If it turns out that there is, we will dispose of it using FEC guidelines.“

The Washingon Post explained that ”Stein's fundraising goal was $2.5 million — and donors blew right past it. At that point, as New York magazine first reported, the goal spiked to $4.5 million, and new language on the donation page admitted that costs could rise higher. 'The costs associated with recounts are a function of state law,' wrote the Stein campaign. 'Attorney's fees are likely to be another $2-3 million, then there are the costs of the statewide recount observers in all three states. The total cost is likely to be $6-7 million.” The Post left no room for interpretation: “It's a lot of money, especially for the Green Party. Stein's 2016 campaign, the party's most electorally potent since 2000, took in $3,509,477 from donors. As of Thursday afternoon, the recount effort had raised $3,875,502. It's the largest donation drive for a third party in history — so what's actually going on?”

The Post also reported that that money was coming from donors, while more skeptical observers again see the hand of billionaire Gorge Soros behind it all. One of the so called experts who raised doubts over the reliability of the voting machines attorney John Bonifaz, whose National Voting Rights Institute is said to be heavily funded by Soros and has been around since 1994.
Stein’s funding is coming from bots and small accounts that are difficult to trace back to George Soros. He is using thousands of smaller accounts to send Stein $160,000 every hour so that the amounts stay low and do not set off any red flags.

The donations come in at a constant rate 24 hours a day, which suggests that a computer program is being used to post the donations as opposed to real people making grassroots donations, as Stein claims. “If real individuals are in fact making the actual donations, the rate of the donations should drop over night when internet traffic is low,” a Republican supporter pointed out.

“In the chart monitoring her donations, we see a sensational spike early in the morning when most people are sleeping; and if donations are in fact coming in from real grassroots supporters, then they should reflect this curve in some manner,” it was noted.

Stein's campaign said she would file a petition Wednesday for a Michigan recount, after which Trump would have seven days to file objections. Trump's margin of victory in the state was a slim 0.22 percent of the total vote.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel said a recount would be “a waste of time and disrespectful to all Michigan voters.”

Chris Thomas, director of the Michigan Bureau of Elections, said the recount would begin as early as Friday to meet a Dec. 13 deadline. Under state policy, the recount will be conducted by hand. He said election officials have heard a lot this year about “so-called fraud ... without any foundation in fact,” and a recount settling that question could provide one “silver lining.”

Stein's Wisconsin recount request included an affidavit from University of Michigan computer scientist J. Alex Halderman stating that a hand recount is the only way to determine whether there could have been a cyberattack that affected the results. He argued that records stored in electronic voting equipment could have been manipulated in an attack.

The AP on Monday updated its election night vote count in Wisconsin to correct the totals for both candidates in three separate counties. The updates dropped Trump's margin over Clinton from 27,257 votes to 22,460 votes, or 0.8 percent of the total vote. The corrections were made during the regular post-election canvass of the election-night vote.

In Pennsylvania, where Trump edged Clinton by about 71,000 votes, or about 1 percent of the vote, Stein filed a lawsuit seeking a statewide recount but it wasn't clear if the courts had the authority to order one.

Democratic Secretary of State Pedro Cortes said there was no evidence of voting irregularities or cyberattacks on Pennsylvania's voting machines, 96 percent of which record votes electronically and leave no paper trail.


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  • Jack Bauer

    Clinton jumped on the bandwagon once Jill Stein took the initiative - which she (JS) had every right to do - a synergy has been created that will probably have to run its course if people are to finally accept the results.
    To agree or not with the 2013 shutdown, all depends what side you're on...both sides will usually find plausible reasons to defend their views. After Ted Cruz’s filibuster, trying to block Ob’care, Harry Reid, backed by a Dem controlled Senate, managed to change the rule, requiring only a simple vote to block them ; more recently, envisioning the Dems regaining the Senate and HRC in the WH, he said that if Republicans tried to block any of HRC’s nominees, specifically for the Supreme Court, they’d change the rules 2013, Republicans warned him it would come back to bite him in the ass, and now it has.
    It is known that minorities are usually the more vocal in most societies, and it's also quite obvious that the silent majority are those who are content to allow things to continue as they are. In Brazil it's no different. All the protests against Dilma, since mid 2013, have attracted hundreds times more people than those defending her, even with cash payments and baloney sandwiches....the elections held end October gave the PT such a whipping, it's clear that the majority were fed up, this time including a good portion of the lower middle class and the poor - usually PT supporters - who were the ones hardest hit by Dilma's failed policies. They woke up when the crisis reached their pockets.

    Temer will have to reduce Government expenses drastically, not so much investments. He'll have to convince Congress to reform the social security system whih produces enormous deficits, the rules that govern workers contracts and other benefits, a tax reform, a political reform in order to eliminate absurd the 60's Brazil was totally different, the problems becoming evident only after the civilians took over.

    Dec 03rd, 2016 - 10:39 pm +5
  • Jack Bauer

    Oh, you mean the protesters? I thought you were talking about the politicians.”

    When I mentioned “I hoped the Democrats would back down”, I was thinking of the politicians - those leading the recount efforts - but I suppose it applies to the protestors as well ; when will they realize they are pissing against the wind ?

    I remember the was the only option the republicans had to fight BO and the democrat Senate...besides not agreeing to raise the debt ceiling they refused to fund any resolution which did not defund Ob'care. If they were later considered irresponsible, what to say of the stubborness on the other side for not wanting to reach a compromise ? It's politics. As to the democrats today, they are minority in both the House of Reps and the Senate, so they are hardly in a position to put up any real resistance. It will come down to the more moderate republicans to see that things don't fly off the handle.

    Temer, despite his 'impopularity' - as usual the protests from the rowdy minority seem to deafen the silent majority which realizes things MUST change - is doing what HAS to be done ; to be honest, many of the current problems originated decades ago, due to ongoing political accomodation and /or the refusal to address such issues (such as austerity measures, and deep reforms in many government areas), because they're seen as highly impopular, Brazil has reached a crossroad...either they do their homework, or we are screwed. If a populist government wins the elections end 2018, and by then Temer hasn't managed to conclude these essential reforms, things are going to get worse...
    The problems have existed for decades, and have been ignored, but the PT's corruption and populism really pushed us over the edge...on the other hand, in 2002 Lula promised - if elected - he would push these reforms through, and he could have too, due to his popularity, but he also chose to ignore them. His goal was quite different .

    Dec 02nd, 2016 - 08:53 pm +4
  • Jack Bauer

    “How do you mean, will the Democrats back down? What do you want them to do or not do? I think there may be more protests in the future, but that will depend on what Trump actually does once he is President.”

    I mean, after the result (of the election) has been shown to be correct, will they keep on protesting the simple fact that he won ? That won't change anything.
    But, if Trump implements or gets any law passed that they disagree with, sure protesting (without violence) is valid...but, here you've got to be able to discern whether the protests are due to legitimate grievances, or just protesting in order to try to make the Trump administration fail ? That is what is happening in Brazil....the PT and their allies are trying to disrupt the Temer government in every possible way they can, going against every measure he proposes, even if essential to pull Brazil out of the hole...

    Nov 30th, 2016 - 10:00 pm +3
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