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EU sigh of relief: Austria votes for independent, rejects anti migrant candidate
Independent candidate Alexander Van der Bellen, a pro-EU left wing who preached moderation, has won Austria's presidential election on Sunday over right-wing populist Norbert Hofer. A former leading member of the Green Party, Van der Bellen was the hope of Austrians who wanted to stop Hofer, a leader of the anti migrant and anti EU Freedom Party. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBut Italy have done the opposite!
Dec 05th, 2016 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse -2Ha, ha, ha.
Well done to them.
Italy voted on whether or not to reform their constitution. A completely different set of circumstances.
Dec 05th, 2016 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0EB
Dec 05th, 2016 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -2If you know the Italians like you claim to, this result will be the start of Italy leaving the EU.
Italy is still made up of disparate sections, most notably the 'industrial' north and the 'semi-industrial' south (due to political tampering to get any form of industry there).
I have limited experience of the north (all high end photo-optronic and associated hardware) the majority being almost four years around Naples and Caserta plus further afield for CNC manufacturing. Again all to feed into photo-optronic amplifiers and switching nodes for country-wide telecoms and the associated fibre transmission systems in India.
The people who assembled the systems were mainly women, the men being reserved for line validation.
They are lovely people who love life, not work and it showed with the number of strikes we had to put up with.
During my time there the Lira was replaced by the Euro. The strikes increased because of the reduction in the buying power for exactly the same amount of work time.
Perhaps the north may hold the EU line, but I strongly doubt it.
Renzi will be gone and perhaps a new party will emerge as everybody seems to think and then we will soon see.
@ChrisR
Dec 05th, 2016 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I do know some Italians and I don't agree with your assertion.
This was not a vote to leave the EU but a vote against changing the constitution. It was a vote against change. I explained the reasons in my post in the thread about the Italian vote.
Renzi didn't have to leave but has chosen to do so. It doesn't automatically trigger a new election. It may, but then again it may not. Blair stepping down didn't trigger an election. Cameron stepping down didn't trigger an election.
“perhaps a new party will emerge as everybody seems to think”
Perhaps but it is no means certain or that they will be voted into power. You love your hyperbole but 'everybody' doesn't think like you at all.
Perhaps, just perhaps the words getting louder and louder to the EU leaders will be,
Dec 05th, 2016 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -3[ let our peoples go ]
They say its collapsing, but when will it happen, if at all.
ElaineB...
Dec 05th, 2016 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Why can't you analyse the former Argentinean administration as soberly as you do with other stuff..., me dear lass...
Why do you have to always analise it instead...???
@ EB
Dec 05th, 2016 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -2“Perhaps but it is no means certain or that they will be voted into power. You love your hyperbole but 'everybody' doesn't think like you at all.”
Well, we will see won't we? It will be a race to see which comes first - the demise of the EU or Italy voting to leave.
The Germans in particular won't let the EU disintegrate but they will have to abandon their rigid ideas to keep what remains of it in one piece. It was principally them that caused Brexit refusing to compromise on freedom of movement. The tide of resentment against the EU is unstoppable in many places other than Britain.
Dec 05th, 2016 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ The Voice
Dec 05th, 2016 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1You have a point and none more so than France. I just think the media are leading people to believe this vote was about the EU when it was, in fact, a vote of reforming the constitution in Italy. But that doesn't play as well with the excitable readership.
@ ChrisR
Be careful what you wish for because both will have an impact on pension values and the devaluing pound.
The euro has trapped poor countries like Italy in a failed experiment. It must give them an exit – or collapse
Dec 05th, 2016 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Elaine - 40% youth unemployment in Italy and worse still in Greece and Spain. The Euro has stolen many young peoples dreams. As stratospheric house prices here caused partially by a population growing to quickly and a badly regulated housing market not fit for purpose.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/05/euro-has-trapped-poor-countries-like-italy-failed-experiment/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_androidshare_AnBKs36LQR09
@The Voice
Dec 05th, 2016 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Italy is in the top ten strongest economies in the world, even with the Euro. I agree that with three decades of stagnant growth and being allowed to devalue their own current they would probably be higher in the ranking. We could debate the pros and cons of Italy being part of the EU all day but that is not what the vote was about.
The vote was about whether or not they wanted to reform their constitution. They voted against change.
TWIMC
Dec 05th, 2016 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Poor Countries like Italy”... tells the brainwashing Anglo press their avidly gullible Anglo readers...
And they swallow it whole...
Turnips
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
El Think...
Ligurian overwintering Argie...
@ Think
Dec 05th, 2016 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I already made that point.
Think has obviously never been to Southern Italy. A horsemeat farmers salary wouldnt allow it. And… if they dared call in all the bad loans the ensueing bank and business collapse would be Argememnon.
Dec 05th, 2016 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -2@ ElaineB
Dec 05th, 2016 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Not good enough..., cara mia...
the brainwashing Anglo press their avidly gullible Anglo readers...
Dec 06th, 2016 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you referring to ALL the “Anglo” press or just your version ?
A somewhat condescending statement but typical of your attitudes to “Anglos”
What makes you “think” that joe public actually believes what he/she reads in the more scurrilous daily rags ?
Of course brainwashing NEVER takes place in Argentina. For decades you have been promoting the great Malvinas myth even in your schools. That is real brainwashing...no dissent is permitted.
Hear, Hear.
Dec 06th, 2016 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Britain will be the fastest growing in the G7 ,
many companies are now investing, unemployment down,
we aint doing to bad considering we were all abt to by invaded , attacked by aliens , crash dived into recession , tornadoes , and the rest of the things all those experts and Newspapers said would happen
But look on the bright side,
the day we end up looking and feeling like Argentina, then you can start to worry.
Think
Dec 06th, 2016 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Personal message off -subject. Rummaging about in my garage I came across a box of “junk” for chucking out. On closer examination I found a stone quart whisky jar which I had packed away some 45 years ago. It was full of whisky. I then remembered that this had been filled in 1963 with 12 year old, 10° over proof - 57% alcohol Benromach malt..
Thinking back I remember that it was a cask that was almost empty due to damage so we divided the contents to interested parties and I wrote the cask off the official records.
As I am not a whisky drinker, it had been put aside for some purpose I had long since forgot. My wife says it could make some interesting whisky truffles or be used in some culinary manner. No doubt someone will have other ideas come New Year.
If it had been bottled with a label, at 65 years old it could have been worth something.
On this morning's TV they were at a knitwear factory in Derbyshire who said that since Brexit, they had been flooded with enquiries and orders from USA, China for knitwear.
The selling point being a Made in Britain label. Customers are willing to pay a premium for this as it denotes style and quality.
I thought for a moment Clyde was going to offer the whisky to Mr Think...
Dec 06th, 2016 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1How mean to tell him about it....
Next he'll be telling him about old fishing reels in the attic...;-)
Clyde, if you lived in Dunoon you could have tempted Think with one of those battered deep fried Pizzas from Lorenzo's or possibly a dead fly bun from Sheila's…
Dec 06th, 2016 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Up that direction next month for Celtic Connections. Looking forward to.it.
Lowlander...
Dec 06th, 2016 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I would say such an old jar Speyside could fetch £150-200 from someone interested in rarity, not taste...
Feel free to contact me though... if you happen to find something like these...:
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/pjpeg/0eb16348fd22ea820b91f68f7ff1be7a6e7614fe.pjpg ... in between your Sassenach chucking out junk...;-)
Yes. Two late Victorian Hardy fly reels and one Sharps 16 foot salmon cane rod amongst a couple of Abu spinning reels, fly tying equipment and feathers, and a Hardy spinning rod and a light fly rod:also a light bass fishing beachcaster and an Abu 6500 multiplier.. There is also a small metal clasp knife with the gear which I inherited from my Father-in law. Some of the gear must be Edwardian as he bought them second hand in about 1930.
Dec 06th, 2016 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I first took up fishing in 1971, our local fishing tackle shops were full of old cane rods and brass reels which no one wanted. Fibreglass was the new miracle material.
Up to then sea fishers were using greenheart rods which weighed a ton.
I have always meant to go to some of the gigs at Celtic connections but the return train service was always too early and the thought of crossing the Fenwick moor in January on the way home is not a happy prospect.
I can remember Christmas 1971 returning with the family from a visit to my Mother. The police had closed the A77at Newton Mearns due to black ice and our diversion was either via Dumfries -160 miles or via Gourock-about 80 miles. It took almost three hours via the coast road.
Clyde
Dec 06th, 2016 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I remembered about you mentioning the reels quite some time ago...
The Voice
How interesting...
Lowlander...
Dec 06th, 2016 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhhhh.... them good auld days....
Still remember, in the mid seventies, one could walk into any of Genève's watchpushers and buy an IWC Mk Xl..., a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms...or a JLC Memovox... for under 1,000 Sfr...
But everybody, including me, just wanted them new fancy Seiko Quartzes...
Turnips...!
Clyde, the weather is often a problem but I am treating myself to a nice central hotel for some of the gigs this time.
Dec 07th, 2016 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -1A pal has a Titanium Casio Waveceptor identical to mine. Sometimes we look at them side by side, the second hands are always precisely in step and spot on. Beats my Audemars and Piguet on timekeeping.
“Audemars and Piguet”?
Dec 08th, 2016 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like your “Patek and Philipe”?
Chronic...
Dec 08th, 2016 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +1You are a trolling turnip but..., at least you know a bit about watches...
The Voice and his Audemars “and” Piguet....ROFL...
What will be his next...?
His Om and Ega...?
His Rol and Ex...?
He is such a fake Mr. Think...
Dec 08th, 2016 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like his Ru and dge......;-)))
:-)
Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse -1In the irony of ironies category:
Dec 10th, 2016 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -3The democratically elected government of austria has seized possession of the birthplace of hitler over the protests of its private owner.
Apparently the government has no particular respect for the rights of its private citizens and has developed a pronounced fear if ideas.
Geeeeeeeee...
Dec 10th, 2016 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2The fasci(st)nation this little boy exerts over them Anglo right-wing Turnips is just flabbergasting...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1989-0322-506%2C_Adolf_Hitler%2C_Kinderbild.jpg
Sieg Heil(ige) Maria...
I got rid of that Ru dge years ago along with a Rudge 250. The watch is in a drawer along with some Rolex's, Tag Heuers etc which only get worn once or twice a year at black tie do's. Time from the Casio is spot on. Think/Voice are so obviously pathetic little possession worshiping turnips needing baubles to boost their personal shortcomings - horsemeat farmer and back bedroom architect…
Dec 11th, 2016 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 022nd May 2016...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“Yes, I was dragged up, pedant spelling isnt important. My Rudge Ulster trumps your 50s junk. That was the era when the nips started to bite. Owned the Rudge since the 60s.”
Anyone seeing a past tense in that...?
He can't remember his own lies...;-)
Is the smell of kebabs affecting your senses…
Dec 11th, 2016 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do fat people always have to mention food...?
Dec 11th, 2016 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Well, what is it then, Wonder Woman, Dunoon, envy. As for the Rudge, the pictures are on my web site. ;-)
Dec 11th, 2016 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your website...?
Dec 11th, 2016 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure they are not on the Revival website...?
only...
September 24th 2016
“The Voice
Photos are on the Revival website. What year??”
Keep digging...the only way is down...
And my website ;-)
Dec 11th, 2016 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Knowing who you are...if you had a website...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would know about it...
Links...links...links...think about that...
You don't though..
Dec 11th, 2016 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You...yer just a cockney....
Dec 11th, 2016 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear oh dear.......;-)))))))))
And you, A_… , no doubt reeking of kebab ;-)))))))
Dec 11th, 2016 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you spotted my articles in Building Design yet - oh dear ;
Oh dear me...did you not realise...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm one of your followers....albeit...incognito....;-)))))
I'm sorry folks you have no idea what I'm talking about...but he does...
A blind man could follow his trail...
Be my guest! Hope you are enjoying the pics there including some property you are familiar with!
Dec 11th, 2016 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What like...that crappy semi you own...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fake dreamer....
My garage isn't much smaller...
You should have slunk off whilst you were behind...
You obviously need to go to Specsavers ;-) Average house price here £1 m. Dunoon?
Dec 11th, 2016 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would fit twice inside mine and your garden at least ten...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You stick to your camping....tents are much better than hotels....NOT...;-))))
...the jet setter....oh dear...
The suburbia wannabe....
Its reassuring to know you know so little and get it sooo wrong. Last time I camped, at least 3 years ago I Think, but I might go again next year. At least my office isnt over a kebab shop. Lol!
Dec 11th, 2016 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nowhere near the mark as usual...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would I have an office it's common knowledge on here that I haven't needed to work for years...
There may be houses in your area that are a million, but your average suburbs semi isn't one of them....
Maybe that's why you can afford all the Rolex's etc....;-))))
Give it up you guttersnipe...
I just looked your property up, I could sell mine buy yours,twice over and buy something on the South Coast. Fail! Its not a semi.
Dec 11th, 2016 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Liar...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Does anyone seriously believe you have any idea where I live...
A moment ago you thought I had an office...
Unless you have a fence going down the middle of your garden...it's a semi alright...;-)))
Mr. Voice...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1What luxury car do you Think Mr. The Voice drives?
A Mercedes and Benz...?
A Rolls and Royce...?
Or a Reliant and Robin...?
You are the liar. Also the fool because your taunting won't reveal anything. A semi around here is 400 to 600 grand whereas the most expensive property in your nick of the woods is less than that. As for your location and assets we have chapter and verse laddie, the lot…
Dec 11th, 2016 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Psssssst.., Mr Voice...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you speaking about that little semi just outside Reading? ;-)
Think did you enjoy watching your cousins. Little tea leafs all of them. I note Brook Street has failed too. :-))) Good place for well known and influential people.
Dec 11th, 2016 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for those cars not my scene, a Ford is inexpensive and reliable.
I can hardly believe it. https://youtu.be/4ruwmeWFqyc
You couldnt have chosen a worse spot
Mr. Think
Dec 11th, 2016 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reading...good one...
The Voice always bites off more than he can chew...;-)))
I'll lay off him now...don't want him fretting too much...
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