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Falklands/Malvinas: Red Cross hosting talks on identifying Argentine soldiers buried in Darwin
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in an official release announced that on Friday, (9 December), in Geneva, it will be hosting talks with delegations from Argentina and the United Kingdom to discuss next steps relating to the identification of the unidentified Argentine soldiers buried in Darwin cemetery in the Falkland/Malvinas Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTWIMC
Dec 09th, 2016 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse -10All as previously agreed with the Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office...
Lets hope that the FIA doesn't pull one of their usual stunts...
Hows your porridge 'laddie'?
Dec 09th, 2016 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse +9Whereas we already know that Argentina is trying to pull its usual stunts by attempting to link one issue with an unrelated matter. It won't work and Mike Summers can veto anything unacceptable. I wonder if the Red Cross was persuaded to lower that red line on consents which the Arg Gov cannot meet?
Dec 09th, 2016 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse +9Mr. Rger Lorton...
Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse -10Don't worry so much...
As long as Mike S..., that new Kelper junior secretary at the Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office delegation in Genève keeps his peace..., this deal is a done deed...
I'm not worrying at all Think - no skin off my nose if Argentina manages to shoot itself in both feet again. Which seems possible due to the inappropriate linkage that your side are attempting. Almost as though they want to fail.
Dec 09th, 2016 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse +7Works both ways..., lad...
Dec 09th, 2016 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse -9I always want Britain to shoot itself in both feet... Which seems possible today due to the inappropriate linkage that one side of your side is attempting.... Sure as hell “they” want it to fail.
No linkage being attempted by the FIG Think, who are quite happy to deal with Argentina's request in isolation. You don't really know what I'm talking about, but then no change there. FIG have no axe to grind on this issue other than to restrict the number of Argie (supposed) experts. Argentina still has not got the consent issue resolved. Still, the world stops for lunch .... maybe the afternoon will be productive. :-)
Dec 09th, 2016 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse +7Mr. Lorton...
Dec 09th, 2016 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -11Ya mean... Mike has ben made to drop his demand about the Democratic Republic of Falcolandia to be a signatary of the final doument...?
Which “final” document :-)
Dec 09th, 2016 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +8Disgusting troll playing politics with his country's fallen. The families are the important people in this matter.
Dec 09th, 2016 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +7THINK
Dec 09th, 2016 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +5“Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office” - it seems that this organisation only seems to exist in Geneva and in the imaghinations of Argentine idiots!
Think- Probabaly all just a diplomatic procedure in Geneva at the end of the day as nobody has any objections to the principle at stake.
Dec 09th, 2016 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +5But simple fact is - Somebody then will have to apply to Falkland Islands Government Environmental Planning Office for the relevant permits, to the Royal Falkland Islands Police, to the Dept of Health and no doubt others. Theses part of the actual process and works is NOT under control of London.
Difficult I agree for Arg Govt to apply as according to them we do not exist over here. Obvious solution would be for the Arg. Families Association to apply - they did for permissions etc to build the wall and cross in the first place anyway.
Fly on the wall....
Dec 09th, 2016 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -7“OK... we'll call that a wrap, now Mike old boy, be a good chap and make it happen without any hiccups and leave the details to us...”
“Right you are Guv”...doffs his imaginary cap...
Islander1
Dec 09th, 2016 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -6You say...:
“But simple fact is - Somebody then will have to apply to... etc..., etc..., etc...”
I say...:
Correct...
Agreement being that your Central British Government in London will manage all the eventual red tape with its British Overseas Territorial Administration at Puerto Estanley, occupied Malvinas/Falklands so the International Red Cross can do their job...
Mr. Voice...
Right you are Guv...
Mike will doff his imaginary cap... and drive his not so imaginary rented Merc to his not so humble house in Provence for yet another undeserved holiday paid by the FIG(leaf)...
Think- don't think so. Applications for Planning and Building(and digging up)from overseas come direct to FIG Environmental Planning - not to or via UK Gov as it has no authority in this area in the Islands. Last one was direct from the Argentine Families Association. We will see.
Dec 09th, 2016 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Good morning all. You still don't get it Think/Voice. The FIG have no objections to the examinations of the remains and the only stumbling blocks are likely to be those thrown around by Argentina. An agreement in principle was achieved and work will probably start the middle of next year. That said, only the Falkland Coroner has the power to order/allow exhumations and he has no political masters under either FIG or British law. An application will have to be made. The FI Coroner will have to sign it. Now we'll wait to see who makes it - most likely the ICRC.
Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Thinks comment from a few weeks ago
Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +6....“At NO POINT in the whole process has the ICRC said, implied or hinted that all three instances will, at any point, sit simultaneusly at the same table.”
Just wishfull thinking from your side, me dear Kelper...
I wonder who is correct, will they sit at the table....we will just have to wait and see.
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -7And now, over to London :-)
Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +6“In April 2012, the ICRC received a request from the government of Argentina to facilitate the identification of the mortal remains of the unidentified Argentine soldiers buried in Darwin cemetery.”
Dec 10th, 2016 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse +7The very fact that the Argy government chose to take this to the ICRC instead of following the decent, sensible course of action of simply asking the FIG for permission, demonstrates that they are desperate to try and play politics with this issue.
They couldn't give a toss about the relatives - they are an absolute disgrace.
To put things in perspective, the Islanders were defenceless against a military regime that had already imprisoned and tortured their own civilians, and murdered thousands more.
Dec 10th, 2016 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse +4The Argentine occupying authorities openly discussed eradicating the population as the“ best solution”.
https://youtu.be/7pBJviHDA5E
TWIMC
Dec 10th, 2016 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse -7As I posted some 17 hours ago...
1) All as previously agreed with the Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office...
2) The FIA didn't pull any of their usual stunts...
3) Mike S. doffed his cap and drove to his not so cheap hotel in Genève and will tomorrow drive his rented Merc to his not so humble house in Provence for yet another undeserved holiday paid by the FIG(leaf)...
https://www.mrecic.gov.ar/reunion-en-ginebra
Still full of crap there Think. There was nothing to sign ...... not yet at least. Argentina withdrew its obstacles and some ground was made, but no - there is no final deal as yet. It's in the word 'provisional'.
Dec 10th, 2016 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse +6And he's off to London for part 2 :-)
Poor old Think. Anyone reading your BS would think that FIG was against the ID work and that we were forced into submission. We've always wanted the project to go ahead but we just didn't want them dirty little Argie officials to make a charade out of it.
Dec 10th, 2016 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse +5Poor old Think. Desperately trying to make some news out of nothing. You said nobody from FIG would be in the meeting with ICRC and that turned out, as we all knew it would, to be wrong. Clutching straws.
Silly old fool.
Mr. Jo Bloggs
Dec 10th, 2016 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse -6You say that i said that...:
“”“ Nobody from FIG would be in the meeting with ICRC ”“”
Nope... What I actualy said in an earlier post was..:
“”“You Kelpers can send Mike..., a sheep or a Thinking chimp to Geneva...
He will still be part of HMG delegation in a BILATERAL meeting with us Argies...”“””
http://en.mercopress.com/2016/11/18/falklands-to-meet-red-cross-in-geneva-on-dna-identification-of-argentine-combatants-buried-in-darwin/comments#comment454861
- As we all know now........., what I said was..., as usual..., correct...
(Sending a sheep would have been cheaper, though... ;-)
A nice weekend to you too..., laddie.
El Think
More indigestion laddie? Take a Tums…
Dec 10th, 2016 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse +1As Summers had the veto, that'll be trilateral .... Laddie :-)
Dec 10th, 2016 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Any progress on Argentina acquiring permission from ALL the families of the soldiers to meet the requirements of the Red Cross?
Dec 10th, 2016 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +3It's not going to happen, after all the callous emotional manipulation by the Argentines.
I notice that even Mr. Enrique M. must be secretly ashamed. He has disappeared to hide his embarrassment.
Poor old Hepatia. Again with the old “England will return the Malvinas within 25 years” BS. For a couple of entries you actually said “UK” instead of “England” however as I have said before:
Dec 10th, 2016 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +3#1 Yes, we have no Malvinas...
#2 England doesn't have the wherewithal to return the FALKLANDS (please learn the difference between “England” and “The United Kingdom of Great Britain”
#3 The United Kingdom of Great Britain won't be returning the Falklands to Argentina without the express wishes and permission of the Falkland Islanders
#4 It ain't going to happen
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