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Falklands/Malvinas: Red Cross hosting talks on identifying Argentine soldiers buried in Darwin

Friday, December 9th 2016 - 04:41 UTC
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The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in an official release announced that on Friday, (9 December), in Geneva, it will be hosting talks with delegations from Argentina and the United Kingdom to discuss next steps relating to the identification of the unidentified Argentine soldiers buried in Darwin cemetery in the Falkland/Malvinas Islands. Read full article

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  • Think

    TWIMC

    All as previously agreed with the Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office...
    Lets hope that the FIA doesn't pull one of their usual stunts...

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse -10
  • The Voice

    Hows your porridge 'laddie'?

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse +9
  • Roger Lorton

    Whereas we already know that Argentina is trying to pull its usual stunts by attempting to link one issue with an unrelated matter. It won't work and Mike Summers can veto anything unacceptable. I wonder if the Red Cross was persuaded to lower that red line on consents which the Arg Gov cannot meet?

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse +9
  • Think

    Mr. Rger Lorton...
    Don't worry so much...
    As long as Mike S..., that new Kelper junior secretary at the Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office delegation in Genève keeps his peace..., this deal is a done deed...

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse -10
  • Roger Lorton

    I'm not worrying at all Think - no skin off my nose if Argentina manages to shoot itself in both feet again. Which seems possible due to the inappropriate linkage that your side are attempting. Almost as though they want to fail.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Works both ways..., lad...
    I always want Britain to shoot itself in both feet... Which seems possible today due to the inappropriate linkage that one side of your side is attempting.... Sure as hell “they” want it to fail.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Roger Lorton

    No linkage being attempted by the FIG Think, who are quite happy to deal with Argentina's request in isolation. You don't really know what I'm talking about, but then no change there. FIG have no axe to grind on this issue other than to restrict the number of Argie (supposed) experts. Argentina still has not got the consent issue resolved. Still, the world stops for lunch .... maybe the afternoon will be productive. :-)

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Mr. Lorton...

    Ya mean... Mike has ben made to drop his demand about the Democratic Republic of Falcolandia to be a signatary of the final doument...?

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -11
  • Roger Lorton

    Which “final” document :-)

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Zaphod

    Disgusting troll playing politics with his country's fallen. The families are the important people in this matter.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • gordo01

    THINK

    “Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office” - it seems that this organisation only seems to exist in Geneva and in the imaghinations of Argentine idiots!

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Islander1

    Think- Probabaly all just a diplomatic procedure in Geneva at the end of the day as nobody has any objections to the principle at stake.
    But simple fact is - Somebody then will have to apply to Falkland Islands Government Environmental Planning Office for the relevant permits, to the Royal Falkland Islands Police, to the Dept of Health and no doubt others. Theses part of the actual process and works is NOT under control of London.
    Difficult I agree for Arg Govt to apply as according to them we do not exist over here. Obvious solution would be for the Arg. Families Association to apply - they did for permissions etc to build the wall and cross in the first place anyway.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Voice

    Fly on the wall....

    “OK... we'll call that a wrap, now Mike old boy, be a good chap and make it happen without any hiccups and leave the details to us...”

    “Right you are Guv”...doffs his imaginary cap...

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Think

    Islander1
    You say...:
    “But simple fact is - Somebody then will have to apply to... etc..., etc..., etc...”
    I say...:
    Correct...
    Agreement being that your Central British Government in London will manage all the eventual red tape with its British Overseas Territorial Administration at Puerto Estanley, occupied Malvinas/Falklands so the International Red Cross can do their job...

    Mr. Voice...
    Right you are Guv...
    Mike will doff his imaginary cap... and drive his not so imaginary rented Merc to his not so humble house in Provence for yet another undeserved holiday paid by the FIG(leaf)...

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Islander1

    Think- don't think so. Applications for Planning and Building(and digging up)from overseas come direct to FIG Environmental Planning - not to or via UK Gov as it has no authority in this area in the Islands. Last one was direct from the Argentine Families Association. We will see.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Roger Lorton

    Good morning all. You still don't get it Think/Voice. The FIG have no objections to the examinations of the remains and the only stumbling blocks are likely to be those thrown around by Argentina. An agreement in principle was achieved and work will probably start the middle of next year. That said, only the Falkland Coroner has the power to order/allow exhumations and he has no political masters under either FIG or British law. An application will have to be made. The FI Coroner will have to sign it. Now we'll wait to see who makes it - most likely the ICRC.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • James Marshall

    Thinks comment from a few weeks ago

    ....“At NO POINT in the whole process has the ICRC said, implied or hinted that all three instances will, at any point, sit simultaneusly at the same table.”

    Just wishfull thinking from your side, me dear Kelper...

    I wonder who is correct, will they sit at the table....we will just have to wait and see.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Roger Lorton

    And now, over to London :-)

    Dec 09th, 2016 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • downunder

    “In April 2012, the ICRC received a request from the government of Argentina to facilitate the identification of the mortal remains of the unidentified Argentine soldiers buried in Darwin cemetery.”

    The very fact that the Argy government chose to take this to the ICRC instead of following the decent, sensible course of action of simply asking the FIG for permission, demonstrates that they are desperate to try and play politics with this issue.

    They couldn't give a toss about the relatives - they are an absolute disgrace.

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Troy Tempest

    To put things in perspective, the Islanders were defenceless against a military regime that had already imprisoned and tortured their own civilians, and murdered thousands more.

    The Argentine occupying authorities openly discussed eradicating the population as the“ best solution”.

    https://youtu.be/7pBJviHDA5E

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    TWIMC

    As I posted some 17 hours ago...

    1) All as previously agreed with the Engrish Foreign and Colonial Office...

    2) The FIA didn't pull any of their usual stunts...

    3) Mike S. doffed his cap and drove to his not so cheap hotel in Genève and will tomorrow drive his rented Merc to his not so humble house in Provence for yet another undeserved holiday paid by the FIG(leaf)...

    https://www.mrecic.gov.ar/reunion-en-ginebra

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Roger Lorton

    Still full of crap there Think. There was nothing to sign ...... not yet at least. Argentina withdrew its obstacles and some ground was made, but no - there is no final deal as yet. It's in the word 'provisional'.

    And he's off to London for part 2 :-)

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Jo Bloggs

    Poor old Think. Anyone reading your BS would think that FIG was against the ID work and that we were forced into submission. We've always wanted the project to go ahead but we just didn't want them dirty little Argie officials to make a charade out of it.

    Poor old Think. Desperately trying to make some news out of nothing. You said nobody from FIG would be in the meeting with ICRC and that turned out, as we all knew it would, to be wrong. Clutching straws.

    Silly old fool.

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Mr. Jo Bloggs

    You say that i said that...:
    “”“ Nobody from FIG would be in the meeting with ICRC ”“”

    Nope... What I actualy said in an earlier post was..:
    “”“You Kelpers can send Mike..., a sheep or a Thinking chimp to Geneva...
    He will still be part of HMG delegation in a BILATERAL meeting with us Argies...”“””
    http://en.mercopress.com/2016/11/18/falklands-to-meet-red-cross-in-geneva-on-dna-identification-of-argentine-combatants-buried-in-darwin/comments#comment454861

    - As we all know now........., what I said was..., as usual..., correct...
    (Sending a sheep would have been cheaper, though... ;-)

    A nice weekend to you too..., laddie.
    El Think

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • The Voice

    More indigestion laddie? Take a Tums…

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    As Summers had the veto, that'll be trilateral .... Laddie :-)

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Lightning

    Any progress on Argentina acquiring permission from ALL the families of the soldiers to meet the requirements of the Red Cross?

    It's not going to happen, after all the callous emotional manipulation by the Argentines.

    I notice that even Mr. Enrique M. must be secretly ashamed. He has disappeared to hide his embarrassment.

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    Poor old Hepatia. Again with the old “England will return the Malvinas within 25 years” BS. For a couple of entries you actually said “UK” instead of “England” however as I have said before:
    #1 Yes, we have no Malvinas...
    #2 England doesn't have the wherewithal to return the FALKLANDS (please learn the difference between “England” and “The United Kingdom of Great Britain”
    #3 The United Kingdom of Great Britain won't be returning the Falklands to Argentina without the express wishes and permission of the Falkland Islanders
    #4 It ain't going to happen

    Dec 10th, 2016 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +3

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