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Falklands: Two Argentine forensic experts will work with the Red Cross team at Darwin cemetery
Two Argentine forensic experts will be part of the group under the Red Cross that will collect DNA samples from the remains of the Argentine unidentified combatants buried at the Falkland Islands' Darwin cemetery with the purpose of fulfilling the task of identifying the graves which read “Argentine solider, only known unto God”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat is the -sovereignty safeguard clause,
Dec 10th, 2016 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +7was is an argentine initiative ?
South Atlantic conflict - was it not the Falklands war, that Argentina started and thus lost,
I still don't trust them, but that's just my opinion.
The 'sovereignty umbrella' prevents the issue of sovereignty arising in any discussion. This has been the way of talks since 1989. It shuts Argentina up. I hear that Argentina wanted to dominate the forensic team & for examination to take place on the islands. Summer's had other ideas. Never trust them.
Dec 10th, 2016 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +8Argentina will drop their claim over the Falkland Islands and re return their war dead to their land by the end of 2018
Dec 10th, 2016 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +5@Living
Dec 10th, 2016 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +9I wouldn't count on that sort of sanity any time soon. You would need several hundred-thousand tonnes of Valium/Diazepam to calm them down enough to just learn how to spell “Falklands” properly.
It is to be hoped that “the Argentine forensic experts” have greater competence than the idiots who were involved with the Nisman murder.
Dec 10th, 2016 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Speaking of the Nisman murder, it was widely known that the Kirchnerist prosecutor who headed up the Nisman crime scene did her best to pollute the place, and now it looks like there may be some charges brought against that gang.
Dec 10th, 2016 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +7http://www.clarin.com/politica/Denuncian-Berni-Fein-departamento-Nisman_0_1697830232.html
Mr. ML
Dec 10th, 2016 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Good to hear.
There is an eventual cost for complicity with a corrupt dictator
Livingthedream
Dec 10th, 2016 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +5perhaps 2018 is a bit early,
but if you go the Hepatia way ?
then within 25 years is possible...lol
What's the status with the soldiers' families?
Dec 10th, 2016 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Have they all agreed?
Didn't think so.
@Lightning
Dec 11th, 2016 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse +8We discussed this in another thread. I think there was some sort of consensus that a significant number of the unknowns were probably bastards and thus have no family coming forward to offer DNA or any other sort of recognition (this explanation would fit Argentine demographics). If I remember correctly some families of the yet-unknowns have objected to providing DNA. And as noted elsewhere, the Argentine government is turning a deaf ear to the pleading of some families of unknowns to allow repatriation of remains that might be eventually identified.
@Livingthedream. I don't see the reason for the wait. Due to the lack of respect to graves now evinced by some of the animals that get involved in violence, civilised nations have taken to transporting their dead back to the home country. This is a perfect opportunity to pour the remains of argie so-called soldiers into plastic buckets and send them back where they, illegally, came from. If pressed, the buckets could be supplied with lids. And the buckets should, of course, be yellow.
Dec 11th, 2016 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse +3Thanks ML,
Dec 11th, 2016 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse +2Seems it's really not unanimous amongst the families that the bodies should be dug up. They have closure already.
Isn't it true that the bodies were offered to be returned to Argentina after the war ended but there was some bluster from the Argentine government that 'they were already on Argentine soil'. You have to feel for the families that these fallen soldiers have ben used by successive Argentine governments as a political football for decades.
Dec 11th, 2016 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse +5@EB “ Isn't it true that the bodies were offered to be returned to Argentina after the war ended but there was some bluster from the Argentine government....”
Dec 11th, 2016 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +5That is correct. The Argentine governments have apparently all refused to allow repatriation of the remains, despite requests of some of the families, and it's curious that the major media here have largely toed the government line and avoided mention of those repatriation requests. The families have been pressured by and even threatened by the AR government to avoid any public insistence on remains repatriation. The Argentine government is so terrified by the thought of an eventual repatriation of these remains that they made it a matter of a “ bilateral clause” in the recent agreements for the DNA testing, that no repatriation would be considered or discussed.
That said, the remains for the dead treated and buried, however temporarily, by UK forces during the 1982 war deliberately provided for later disinterment and transfer. Whenever possible they were buried in sturdy plastic body bags, with zippers and handles, and I think that the “final” interments at the formal cemeteries all involve those very sturdy bags, which are likely to be still fully intact after 60 years or more in the ground although typically the zippers are quickly jammed up.
@Marti This is true. Both countries are trying to find a way out and save face.The identification precess is only the begining of a larger agreement. This is still not public knowlage and will not be for some time but, there are talks under way.
Dec 11th, 2016 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Livingthedream
Dec 11th, 2016 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +4About what?
Pardon me If I don't take the word of someone seriously...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -4That thinks a pic of a Hardly represents living the dream ...
If your dream is 1950's technology, ingenuity, performance and innovation and big noisy, overpriced ego boosting scooters...
What are your nightmares like...?
“If your dream is 1950's technology, ingenuity, performance and innovation ...”
Dec 11th, 2016 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +5For a moment there I thought Voice was describing contemporary Argentina.
And that…
Dec 11th, 2016 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +4That's what it is...!
Dec 11th, 2016 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -4An Hardly Ableson part...!
Silly me... Thinkin' it was a piece of C-P3O...
I have a less flattering T-Shirt....Mr. Think...
Dec 11th, 2016 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -3“Hardly fcuking moving son”....;-)
ThinkVoice
Dec 11th, 2016 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Off-topic again.
This is not about you.
...and you are on topic...?
Dec 11th, 2016 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Topic, topic,
Dec 11th, 2016 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Tesco's 4 four a pound,
Topic, looks good , tastes good ad cheap at half the price...lolol
Does Argentina possess any experts? Ah..vivenza criola or sumtin…
Dec 11th, 2016 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +3The Hardly comments have pretty much confirmed that voice=think.
Dec 12th, 2016 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse +3LivingtheDream is quite correct. All hush hush so that the peronistas don't start to whinge again - or at least yet. From Geneva to London............ :-)
Dec 12th, 2016 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse +3Marti, Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Question is which is which?
Dec 12th, 2016 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Dec 13th, 2016 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -3H-Hideously
Dec 14th, 2016 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +2E-Especially
P-perverted
A-attitude
T-towards
I-inward-looking
A-agitator
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