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“You lot can sod off”, ex Top Gear Clarkson Xmas greeting for Tierra del Fuego

Monday, December 26th 2016 - 04:08 UTC
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Jeremy Clarkson, the ex leading star of one of BBC's most successful programs, Top Gear is back again squabbling with his not so generous hosts in the extreme south of Argentina. A veteran provocateur which feeds into British nationalism, this time in his Christmas greetings he had a special reference to Tierra del Fuego from which he was chased away in late 2014. Read full article

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  • Fidel_CasTroll

    Once again, confirming that English gentlemen has always been the greatest myth ever dispersed. You must hand it to the British, they have been masters of convincing the world that they are what they exactly are the opposite of: if their Empire was the greatest thing to happen for everyone, you can guarantee it was the worst thing to happen. If they say they don't rig finances, you can bet they are the biggest corrupt riggers out there. If they say they are gentlemen, you are guaranteed they are the most uneducated boors out there.

    In the past, with no internet and cell phones, they could get away with it. Today, not so much, and now the whole world has awoken to the massive farce.

    :)

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 04:33 am - Link - Report abuse -12
  • Roger Lorton

    Let's go for broke - Boris Johnson to be Prime Minister and Jeremy Clarkson as Foreign Secretary. May not make us many friends, but we'll be speaking from the heart. :-)

    Fidel - you talk crap

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • gordo1

    Fidel_CasTroll

    Yes, that's why Argentine parents pay the huge fees to send their sons to St George's College in Bs As to learn how to become British gentlemen!

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • downunder

    Good one Jeremy, tell it how it is!

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Marti Llazo

    When Argentina's best send their hooligans to assemble mobs and recklessly endanger visitors with their rock-throwing while the police twiddle their thumbs, Clarkson's reminder is probably charitable.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • DemonTree

    @Fidel
    “You must hand it to the British...”

    Why thank you ;) You know you really shouldn't believe these stereotypes, it's very foolish. All kinds of different people live in every country, and the 'English Gentlemen' were only ever the upper classes anyway.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • ElaineB

    @ TTT


    Where do you get your information from? Of course, you select from the internet anything that feeds your prejudices. I don't know where your inferiority complex came from but why not educate yourself instead of swallowing myths.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • DemonTree

    No, no, he's much funnier the way he is. What if he actually listens to you and becomes boring?

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Fidel_CasTroll

    All I know is I'm 6 under par and on route to another Masters titroll.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -10
  • Marti Llazo

    Well under par in so many ways.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Fidel_CasTroll

    You are being too obvious with your sexual preferences. But back to the article, why would this guy from a tv show that was practically unknown in Argentina prior to 2015 be able to “feed into British Nationalism”? Didn't everyone here insist I was dead wrong and there was no nationalist streak and even hints of national socialist mentality germanating (sic intentional), developing in the UK?

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • DennisA

    which feeds into British nationalism?

    What's that supposed to mean?

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • chronic

    I haven't watched much of the Clarkson content but I've enjoyed that that I have.

    He strikes me as someone that can enjoy his vices.

    Are there anymore personalities like him in the UK?

    He seems larger than real life.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • ChrisR

    I don't particularly care for Clarkson but he is spot on with this, if a little 'gentle' with the choice of rebuke.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Marti Llazo

    Actually Clarkson's Top Gear did have a good bit of an enthusiast following in Argentina.

    That wasn't much known to people who restricted their intake to the pages of Página12.

    Clarkson and company started their trip through Argentina in a way that cast the country in a very favourable light. The criminal camporistas in Tierra del Fuego made certain it would not end up that way, and that the civilised world would take note of the state-protected hooliganism that characterised the CFK regime.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Pete Bog

    After the Clarkson incident I assume every Argentine number plate has been checked to ensure none of them refer to 1982.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • HughJuanCoeurs

    Clarkson is an irritating, plebeian, first class tit. That still puts him way above any Argentine by a long way

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • diefra

    I ´m absolutely disagree about the neanthertal reaction istead of J Clarkson made a provocation or not

    But i never knew if this plate is legal to drive in UK? If the answer were NO may be he would be punished for driving with an illegal plate .

    Its funny but in Argentina there is an argentine car with a plate with this combination and I ve never knew that the owner had been punished

    Otherwise J Clarkson is well known for his procations in the place that he had visited

    In fact J Clarkson visited a lot of place in Argentina and nobody said anything exceptes when a blogger advised this situation at the end of his trip

    Happy new year

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @diafra
    Yes, it's legal in the UK, and a standard plate. The BBC even showed it was on the car when they bought it. However, it is the sort of thing Top Gear have done purposely in the past.

    But even if it was deliberate it doesn't justify a mob throwing rocks at them.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • Marti Llazo

    @diefra

    ““El equipo de producción de Top Gear compró los tres autos para un programa; sugerir que el coche fue elegido por su matrícula, o que la matricula original fue sustituida por otra, es completamente falso”, dijo en un comunicado Andy Wilman, productor ejecutivo de una de las emisiones más populares de la BBC. ”

    --

    Wilman said at the time: “Top Gear production purchased three cars for a forthcoming programme; to suggest that this car was either chosen for its number plate, or that an alternative number plate was substituted for the original is completely untrue.”

    -----
    Anyone with reasonable intelligence can contact the UK's DVLA ( Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) and observe that the so called offensive plate was the one that was assigned to the vehicle many years earlier.

    The whole episode makes the Fuegian argies out to be not just fools but dangerously violent fools sporting half the intelligence of an average feral paramecium.

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Heisenbergcontext

    Some people just don't now how to leave well enough alone...and yeah, Tobias, Clarkson is't a gentleman. Which he would likely be the first to acknowledge. And there are insufferable pricks like him everywhere, in all walks of life, in every country on Earth. Which you know perfectly well...

    Dec 26th, 2016 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Jo Bloggs

    Oh dear Nostrils. Who on earth ever suggested Jeremy Clarkson was a gentleman? Nobody from the UK would have. Stopping letting your preconceived hatred for the UK control your decision-making processes. It makes you look like a twat.

    Dec 27th, 2016 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • GALlamosa

    I don't like Clarkson either, but he was simply indulging in a very quiet bit of freedom of expression. Apparently not tolerated in TDF.

    Dec 27th, 2016 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Englander

    Coincidence or not the Argies only cottoned on right at the end. Their reaction was atrocious and hopelessly over the top. Still it certainly improved what was turning out to be one of the less interesting Top Gear road trips. East Africa and Vietnam were hugely entertaining.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Konrad Kurse

    I agree that what Clarkson posted isn't really polite or the actions of a civilized gentleman.

    However, neither is stirring up trouble by spreading lies about a license plate, throwing rocks and attempting to harass and assault innocent people - all of which were perpetrated against the Top Gear team by people in Tierra del Fuego.

    Rather than arrest and charge the perpetrators, the Argentinian officials went along with the lie about the license plate - blaming the victims.

    Until those wrongs are acknowledged and made right, I think Clarkson's entitled to show a little hostility.

    I'll point out again - the Top Gear team intentionally made far more overt references to WW2 during their episode with their German rivals, and were never attacked or assaulted for it.

    What justifies the people of Argentina taking actions over a far lesser - and undeniably imaginary - slight?

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Marti Llazo

    @KK “What justifies the people of Argentina taking actions over a far lesser - and undeniably imaginary - slight?”

    You have stumbled upon that primordial, lower-primate animal trait that is the essence of argentinicity: a self-destructive narcissistic imagination that is as vast as it is counterproductive.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    It isn't just Clarkson who gets stones thrown at him in Argentina. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38454136

    What was the number plate on Macri's car? ;-)

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • El Diego

    Why doesn't this raving racist buffoon go and jump of a high cliff into some shark infested waters and do us all a favor. A boring hasbeen thats not worth the media attention.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Englander

    He'll be delighted he's annoyed you El Diego.
    Almost as much as receiving that huge Amazon cheque.
    Don't think it would even cross his mind to do you or anybody like you a favour.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marti Llazo

    @dieguito

    So just what is “racist” about Clarkson? Something about his having revealed the truth about the fueginos and their gorilla-like behaviour?

    It's getting to look as though the argies are throwing the “racism” accusation as much as the American democrats. And with just about as much veracity.

    Here in Argentina the media are covering Clarkson's revelations splendidly, and the clever ones are drawing comparisons between the rock-throwing camporistas in Tierra del Fracaso, as the members of the federal employees syndicate getting together for throwing rocks at the president's car.

    El País Tirapiedras.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • golfcronie

    Gents, I am at the moment watching the Patagonian episode of “ Top Gear ” on channel 111 Dave in the Uk. They had the number plate from the beginning. “ H 982 FKL ”

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    “They had the number plate from the beginning. “ H 982 FKL ” ”

    Same plate that was issued for the car years earlier.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El Diego

    Clarkson has been in court many times for racist behavior. He is a classic crass Englishman, totally lacking culture, manners, intelligence and a generally inferior human being compared to an Argentinian. The Argentine culture and character is just so superior to the neanderthal British cultural view you generally find on this forum and beyond.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • DemonTree

    @El Diego
    Yeah, the stone throwing mob has completely convinced me of that. Really demonstrated your superior culture, manners, and intelligence.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    don diego, the only culture you will find in argentina is that fuzzy stuff growing on old food in the back of your refrigerator.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • downunder

    EL Diego
    The Argentine culture and character is just so superior to the neanderthal British cultural view you generally find on this forum and beyond.

    Since the subject reminds us of Patagonian rock throwers, the figure of speech “Argentine culture” is an oxymoron.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Besides, Clarkson's reference to that fellow being a “lazy Irish c***” was not a case of racism, as was alleged.

    It was a documentary.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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