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Air link to Falklands requested by an Argentine charter airline from Neuquén
A private charter airline planning to operate as a low cost option, based in Neuquén and San Fernando, Buenos Aires has requested the Argentine government for domestic and regional routes including one to the Falkland Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAvianca, from Colombia and El Salvador, should be selected.
Dec 28th, 2016 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse +4An Argentine airline would appear to have little chance of being selected
Dec 28th, 2016 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse +4American Jet can ask all the Argentine government all they like, but the final say must be with the Falkland Islands government.
Dec 28th, 2016 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +4@Konrad Kurse
Dec 28th, 2016 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -7Argentina gets nothing, but absolutely nothing, with a “second flight”....
Why do you think the FI Government will have the “final say” if the ones that “desperately” need a second flight are the Islanders?
@pgerman “Why do you think the FI Government will have the “final say” if the ones that “desperately” need a second flight are the Islanders?”
Dec 28th, 2016 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +6-- Your lack of reasoning is disturbing.
@Marti Llazo
Dec 28th, 2016 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -9It's my lack of reasoning? or yours?
Who need the “second flight”? The one who needs it must accept the conditions of the ones who doesn't need...a basic free market law.
If the FIG is willing to accept the flights as part of a comprehensive plan it would be interesting to see rg get his passport stamped.
Dec 28th, 2016 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pgerman, your understanding of the issue is a bit argentine. The proposed service to the islanders must be acceptable to the customers. Why is this so hard to understand?
Dec 28th, 2016 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Though I think the revelations of pgermanismo help to explain why the islanders might be reluctant to consider any services originating in Argentistan.
Mr pee-german
Dec 28th, 2016 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +2As opposed to a Socialist state, in a free market economy, competition is encouraged.
The customer has a variety of offerings that compete to provide the best service for a customers requirements and preferences, in a cost efficient way.
Argentina doesn't seem to get that. Neither do you, obviously.
Why is it so hard to understand that a flight between two countries can only happen if both governments agree to it? Neither has the 'final say' as both could veto any plans they don't like.
Dec 28th, 2016 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Also, I understood that the proposed second flight to the Falklands would be a regular scheduled one, but the article says this is a small charter airline. So would the route they are asking for be in addition to the planned extra flight? And if so is either side likely to agree to it?
“Low cost flights opportunities in Argentina are incredible”
Dec 28th, 2016 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +3I'm sure they are. Any airline that doesn't have to pay a chunk of money to La Campora et al must have a real competitive advantage.
How about setting up Ascension as an air hub with flights to the USA? Then the Islanders wouldn't have to talk to Argentina at all :-)
Dec 29th, 2016 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse +3“has requested the Argentine government for domestic and regional routes including one to the Falkland Islands.”
Dec 29th, 2016 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse +3An airoute from Argentina to the Falklands would be an International route and as such it would require the agreement of both countries. The operator would need to hold a Regular Public Transport (RPT) authorization, not a Charter authorization.
If they think that the Argentine Government can, on it own, deliver this for them, this crowd have got off to a very bad start. In any case, an RPT service from Argentina to the Falklands is probably politically unacceptable to the FIG.
The FIG will have the final say in which ever airline/route is selected. It will be an agreement between the FIG, the airline, and the authorities of whoever's airspace the routed goes through. It will have to be an international route agreement one in which local politics has no sway or power to intervene.
Dec 29th, 2016 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse +2pgerman
Dec 29th, 2016 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse +4“Why do you think the FI Government will have the “final say” if the ones that “desperately” need a second flight are the Islanders?”
American jet (according to the article) want to operate a service to the Falklands with a 20-seater aircraft.
I wasn't aware that the Islanders 'desperately' needed a service from a 20 seater?
“Who need the “second flight”? The one who needs it must accept the conditions of the ones who doesn't need...a basic free market law.”
So if a service is offered from an airline other than American jet, possibly with aircraft that can carry in freight, free market law will mean that the Islanders are not going to prefer an aircraft that can't carry much freight i.e. what use to the islanders is an aircraft that can only carry 20 passengers and little freight?
Are you aware that the Islanders already have a service from Chile with jet airliners, that carry more than the small aircraft offered in the article?
Next you will be suggesting that if an Argentine airline wants to operate a Cessna 172 service to the islands, taking two passengers and hand luggage plus a Pingu video and a bag of brussels sprouts, that because it may be a 'second' flight, that the Islanders should welcome it with open arms?
The Argentine logic displayed here is that if the Islanders have a good service, the Argentines want to replace it with an inferior service, i.e. the previous administration offered a service with Tu 154s, rather than Voyageur and Airbus aircraft already flying in.
I'm not suggesting the Islanders would accept any Argentine airline in, but is it beyond the capabilities of Argentine imagination or logic, to suggest an air service to the Falkland Islands that is BETTER than they receive now? (i.e. cheaper, efficient with large freight aircraft=your market forces Pgerman).
One thing to remember that this iniciative is being sold to the Malcontents as a step towards eventual Argentine sovereignty of the islands. If this air route ever became seen as essential then you can bet your last dollar the Argentine will use it as a bargaining chip or indeed as ransom. As they have done in the past.
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