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Argentine congress opens Malvinas Observatory; Malcorra will not be attending

Wednesday, December 28th 2016 - 06:51 UTC
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Argentine foreign minister Susana Malcorra will not be going this Wednesday to the Lower House where she was first summoned, and later invited for the formal constitution and opening of the Malvinas Observatory. Lawmaker Elisa Carrió, a close ally of president Mauricio Macri, and chair of the Lower House Foreign Affairs committee originally summoned the minister. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    Malcorra - Transplanted population MercoPress 10 Nov 2016 Malcorra said that historically the Argentine position was not to acknowledge for this case in particular the “self determination of peoples”, because 'kelpers' (Falkland Islanders) are a transplanted population, not aborigine.

    Hm. Let's see: Falklands – Implanted Population:
    https://www.academia.edu/30505159/Falklands_Implanted_Population

    Ho ho ho

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • ChrisR

    Another bunch of bat-shit mad argies wasting their time over something they have never owned but want it anyway.

    Macri has a LONG way to go with this country to bring it kicking and screaming into the present.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marti Llazo

    Isn't the Malvinas Observatory a rickety wooden platform in Buenos Aires province that allows the visitors to look into the bedrooms of the neighbouring municipality of Los Polvorines?

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    “... with the purpose of studying, debating, collecting information and promoting all kind of academic activities related to the South Atlantic Islands dispute.”

    So what happens if the studying, debating and collecting information leads to the logical conclusion that the Falklands do not belong to Argentina and never did? Could be a clever move of Macri's to get an independent group to reveal what he knows already. He couldn't say it himself of course, but give someone else the tools to lead them to the same conclusion and there is a path to progress...

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    @ Zaphod Beeblebrox
    “So what happens if the studying, debating and collecting information leads to the logical conclusion that the Falklands do not belong to Argentina and never did?”

    The same thing that happened in the UK when the chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs suggested drugs should be classified according to the actual harm they cause: they'll be fired from the committee and ordered to apologise to all the veterans and their families. Then the government will ignore what they said and continue with the same policies as before.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Marti Llazo

    The real purpose of the Malvinas Observatory is to debate the number of angels that fit on the head of a pin.

    Dec 28th, 2016 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Roger Lorton

    The problem with a full measure of studying, debating and collecting information Zaphod, is that you end up with my Timeline and the unavoidable conclusion that Argentina's sole argument rests upon a fantasy inheritance. :-)

    https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/chapter-pdfs/

    Dec 29th, 2016 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • downunder

    “The Malvinas Observatory to be inaugurated on Wednesday is made up of seven lawmakers and seven academics with the purpose of studying, debating, collecting information and promoting all kind of academic activities related to the South Atlantic Islands dispute.”

    This is hardly news. Argentina has been doing this for years.

    From the 1880s onwards, every document which might support their case has been collated and published in “white and blue books” (the national colours), historians have written vast tomes and politicians have whipped up mass hysteria.

    So, what has changed? Nothing, the Malvinas Observatory is just a fresh lick of lipstick on a very old pig.

    Dec 29th, 2016 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    There must have been half a dozen of these Observatory's by now. They don't seem to last very long.

    Dec 29th, 2016 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • GALlamosa

    Never confuse activity with achievement. We all know which this represents, have a nice time.

    Dec 29th, 2016 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Pete Bog

    I trust Brit Bob and Roger Lorton that you will send some evidence hotfoot to B. A. to assist the 'Observatory' in their task.

    Observatory, what a joke! Observatory conjures up the concept of visual exploration, seeking to find something new.

    Pahhh! Whenever Argentines are presented with facts about Falklands history, they shut their eyes,stick their fingers in their ears, and repeat a la la mantra, thinking that is academically acceptable.

    “Isn't the Malvinas Observatory a rickety wooden platform in Buenos Aires”
    even
    What? So they haven't thought of siting it in Tierra Del Fuego?

    (Even though a telescope might still not not spot the coastline from that distance).

    Dec 29th, 2016 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • golfcronie

    Sorry Mercopress, but Observatory must have been lost in translation, for us who speak and write English an Observatory is a place for observing ( looking at, as in looking at the moon for example ) it is not a debating forum although they occasionally do speak to each other

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    Mercopress does crap for translation, meaning that they buy a lot of material from really bad translators who are not effective native speakers of the target language and who basically take existing articles from the regional media and do mediocre re-writing. Observatorio/observatory is one of those classic false-cognates that first-year translation students are warned about. Depending on the context - and context is everything here -- we usually translate it as “agency” or “organisation” or “committee” or “team” or whatever really fits the specific purpose and makeup of the group. But “observatory” here is just crap translation.

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pete Bog

    Thanks for the info Marti. But if the observatory is an 'organisation' perhaps they need another word. 'P up' and 'brewery' come to mind re: their 'organisation', like the failure to organise a presentation for the ICJ.

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • MagnusMaster

    Zaphod, to say in Argentina that the Malvinas belong to the UK, is like saying 2+2+5. Unless you can disprove Math then you will never convince anyone in Argentina otherwise, even if you are right. We believe that we are right, and die for our truth.

    Dec 31st, 2016 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “to say in Argentina that the Malvinas belong to the UK, is like saying 2+2+5. Unless you can disprove Math ”

    Hmmm, that pretty well says everything about Argentina's claim - it is just as wrong as your sums!

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    Oops I meant 2 + 2 = 5

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @MagnusMaster
    It's easy to use Excel to show that sometimes, 2 + 2 = 5:

    https://exceliseasy.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/p12_15.png?w=551

    But of course people already died for your 'truth', and British soldiers died for ours too. I hope no more people die over this when there are much bigger problems in the world.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    Client: “How much is 2 + 2 ?”

    Kirchnerist accountant: “ five: two for you and two for me and one to pay for fixing the baches.”

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pete Bog

    Magnusmaster

    “We believe that we are right, and die for our truth.”

    I'm glad your boys did surrender in 1982, no sense for them to fight on for something that has never been theirs, but if they all believed the Falklands was really theirs and like you said 'die for our truth' why didn't they follow Galteiri's instructions and fight to the last man?

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • The Voice

    Oh, got it!

    Malvinas Observatory - its the place Argies go to search for the Pie in the Sky!!

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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