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Prosecutor Nisman's filing to be reopened and investigated, Criminal Court rules

Friday, December 30th 2016 - 05:00 UTC
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The Federal Criminal Court of Appeals Thursday ordered the reopening of the case filed by former AMIA Special Prosecutor Alberto Nisman four days before he was found dead against then Argentine President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner for the alleged cover-up of the Iranian nationals suspected of being behind the AMIA bombing in July, 1994. Read full article

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  • Kanye

    Timmerman is implicated,

    http://www.thebubble.com/argentine-court-of-cassation-orders-the-reopening-of-nismans-case-against-cfk/

    “After rejecting the case, Rafecas faced a fierce, unprecedented campaign calling for his impeachment that had the support of journalists, lawmakers and human rights activists.”

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 05:06 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Enrique Massot

    The Macri government apparently believes that piling up legal cases it can deflect public attention, and have a handy tool to prevent Cristina from running in the 2017 election as senator if she becomes too dangerous--according to polls, she would today get a third of the votes in the largest jurisdiction--the Province of Buenos Aires.

    One more lawsuit, more Cristina trips to Comodoro Py (she has dutifully attended every single citation).

    However, this SLAPP suit, twice dismissed, is going nowhere, for several reasons. First, the MOU was never implemented, therefore “crime” wasn't and could not be committed. The MOU sought the interrogation by an Argentine judge of the Iranian suspects of the bombing of the AMIA. The alleged goal of obtaining the cancellation of Interpol's red alert that prevented the Iranian suspects from travelling abroad did not exist. The hypothesis that the MOU was signed to ease future trade of Iranian oil against Argentine wheat and meat was beyond ridiculous.

    Kanye's choosing to quote The Bubble about an alleged “fierce, unprecedented campaign...” is a feeble attempt to make lies appear true. Such campaign did not exist save for pro-Cambiemos journalists and Macrist lawmakers. Human right activists? Come on! What could be next?

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • imoyaro

    “The alleged goal of obtaining the cancellation of Interpol's red alert that prevented the Iranian suspects from travelling abroad did not exist.”

    Really, Kamerad/Komrade Rique? Then why were the Iranians complaining about it?

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/126843/gil-lavedra-agreement-with-iran-isnt-such

    Note the Herald was a Kirchnerite rag. As for your assertion that the oil for food trade was beyond ridiculous, well, just look at the economic basket case your National Socialist backers turned the country into, unable to produce oil, and losing customers for the struggling ag sector (which you rejoiced in of course.) The only thing ridiculous here is you. ;)

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • ElaineB

    @EM

    Is that going to be your post for every thread about CFK? “It is all a Macri conspiracy!!”

    These are not new allegations but were swept under the carpet when CFK was in power. I really hope they do stop her from running because then she would have immunity. (Her only reason for doing so).

    You keep on spouting about 'a third of voters blah, blah….” but that is not a majority.

    If CFK has done nothing wrong then let the judicial process proceed and she will be cleared. An Argentine was murdered and he deserves to have justice or do you think only CFK supporters should have that?

    Personally, I do not think CFK had Nisman murdered. I stand by my assertion from the time of the murder that the Iranians did it - you just have to follow the money trail. But it may be that someone in CFK's administration gave the go ahead for it to happen. If so they should be brought to account. If it transpires that CFK knew about it then she is also culpable. But, I am not convinces she did know based on her reaction and actions immediately after the murder.

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    So, if I understand correctly, Nisman gathers evidence and develops a case against the K-government but the day before he is due to resent his case he is murdered and then the K-government closes the case. It doesn't take a genius to join the dots and come to a likely conclusion here. However, in Reekie-land this doesn't seem at all suspicious and it is all a Macri conspiracy.

    Hopefully the truth will now come out.

    Dec 30th, 2016 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • axel arg

    TRAGEDY AND CIRCUS.
    In a few weeks, it will be the second aniversary of Nisman's death, and although we still don't know whether what happened with him was a suicide or a murder, it's evident that some of the hypocrites, who have never done anything to find the truth about what happened 22 years ago, in fact some of them were denounced by the families of the victims of the AMIA bombing, as they did against prosecutors Moldes and Ple, for obstructing the investigation of the covering up of the bombing, are the same ones who don't have any problem in making a circus of Nisman's death, and of the bombing of 1994, just to accuse the ex president, although justice has already determined in different opportunities that there wasn't any delit in Nisman's denounce.

    Dec 31st, 2016 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Enrique Massot

    @EB
    The recently re-opened legal action is not about Niaman's death.
    It is to determine whether his denunciation of the Argentina-Iran MOU was criminal.
    It's not coincidence tha judge Rafecas (not a Kirchneris judge in case you are wondering) summarily dismissed it and an appeal chamber confirmed his ruling.
    I read top to bottom Nisman's denunciation and it's got no basis even for a lay person.
    One of Nisman's assertions in his clearly hurriedly assembled denunciation was that Argentina was going to request the cancellation of Interpol red alerts on the Iranian suspects. However, Robert Noble, who had been Interpol director at the time said Argentina, much to the contrary, had specifically requested the alerts be kept in place at all times.
    Another claim by Nisman was that following the agreement, Argentina was going to exchange Iranian oil against food grains and meat. It turns out the Iranian oil is too heavy and can't be processed in Argentina refineries.
    Finally, the MOU was endorsed by Congress, which would make legislators accomplices--but they aren't because their actions were done in exercise of their role.
    Additionally, the MOU never came to fruition because the Iranian Parliament rejected it. As a result, there was no action possible, criminal or otherwise--and you may know that in Argentina there is no prosecution if there was no crime.
    All of this should have come up in Nisman's scheduled presentation before a Legislative Commission on Monday but was thwarted by his untimely death.
    It was found there had been numerous telephone communications between Nisman and then opposition legislator Laura Alonso hours before his death. The topics discussed may come up some day.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Troy Tempest

    Enrique,

    “I read top to bottom Nisman's denunciation and it's got no basis even for a lay person.”

    Don't know where you got that from.

    Regardless, your own unqualified assessment can only be biased.
    You are a retired bricklayer and amateur newsletter contributor.

    Not to mention, it's likely been 40 years since you fled Argentina.

    What's wrong with him talking to an opposition politician?

    Are you condemning him as complicit in yet another conspiracy to punish the poor, or some such?

    Yawn

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Kanye

    It's interesting that both Mr Massot and Mr. Arg argue that the Suspicious Death investigation of Nisman, and the Corruption and Embezzlement charges against Sala should be disregarded as they are purely politically motivated.

    They both wish us to ignore the actual criminal acts, motivated by the politics of K's

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    @Kanye
    To be fair, I don't think axel arg said the charges against Sala should be ignored. He just wants her to be set free until the trial as the UN, OAS, and others including the Prime Minister of Canada have asked for.

    Jan 01st, 2017 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Kanye

    DT

    Considering that is implicated or charged with other wrongdoings, and is a political activist, what do you think of that ?

    I wonder what is the precedent?


    It seems that the government has been very lenient with Evita K (CFK) given the breadth of crimes she is charged with.
    Especially as it I is quite possible that she has a hand in orchestrating the political demonstrations against the current government policies and the labour union assault on the President himself.

    Perhaps we don't know the whole story, and Axel and Enrique are known for perpetuating the populists' fraud.

    The Ultra K's are playing the “political prisoner” card for all it's worth.

    Provoking a reaction from the government to ignite criticism is not beyond them.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • axel arg

    KENYE.
    Unfortunatelly you didn't understand anything of what i said, firstly, i have expressed in many opportunities that i don't put my hands on fire to defend the honesty of a politician, because actually we don't know whether they are guilty or inocent, and in the case of C.F.K., what i will always defend, are the achievements that workers could get along the 12 years and a half of kirchnerism, unfortunatelly, some of those achievements are in danger since the cambiemos alliance is in office, in fact, a lot of people are losing their jobs because of the policies of the actual government. Anyway, although i don't defend C.F.K.'s honesty, it doesn't mean that i'll be too ingenous to ignore that in some cases there is a true persecution against her, like with Nisman's ridiculous denounce, which was already rejected by justice in different opportunities, or with the cause of future dollar, or with the denounce for the public works from Santa Cruz, where only the works made in that province were investigated, however, nothing was said about all the rest of the country, beside, only the former president was called to declare, and not the former chieves of cabinet, the governors and the intendants, it's well known that public works are executed by the nation, the provinces and the intendances, however, if only Cristina was called to declare, it shows that there is a desperate politic decision of accusing her, with the purpose of diverting people's mind from the actual pathetic economic moment that we are living.
    On the other hand, when we say that Milagro Sala is a politic prisoner, it isn't just the relate of the ''ultra k's'', it's also the relate of the U. N., the A.S.O. and the H.R.I.C.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Salas has already been found guilty of one offence and it is logical to keep her incarcerated as you and I know that in Argentina the judges can be bought or intimidated and I have had first hand experience of this so I know.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Kanye

    Mr Arg

    Regardless of whether ALL potential crooks are charged, there is a case for charging CFK with Criminal Corruption, and Sala with Embezzling and other crimes, ideology aside, they are seen as abusing the public trust for their own monetary gain and political power.

    CFK's corruption includes illegal influence in awarding contracts, in collusion with loyal local officials who also sought to profit by their relationship.

    Let them stand trial.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • DemonTree

    @Kanye
    I don't think organising demonstrations is illegal, even in Argentina. And people are not usually locked up before their trial in the UK, unless it is for something as serious as murder.

    But I do think there is a problem in Argentina; how often are allies of the current government ever tried for corruption? It only seems to happen once an opposing party gets in.

    Why do you dislike the K's so much anyway? If you don't live in Argentina then you can't be affected.

    @axel arg
    If Christina is convicted of corruption, will you believe that she is really guilty? Even though you liked her government?

    By the way, you should say 'current government' in English, not 'actual government'. It's confusing.

    @golfcronie
    I'm not sure I see the point, since she is the leader of an organisation who could well do the bribing and intimidation for her, supposing they were willing to do that sort of thing.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Kanye

    DT

    Why do you write on here?

    Are you personally affected?

    Please tell me what you think I need to do to comment on this forum.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Post as yourself Troy...

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    @Kanye
    No, I am not affected, and I only know what I read in the news, which is why I'm going to wait and see what comes out at CFK's trial.

    You have a perfect right to comment on here, I'm just curious why you are so sure they are guilty.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    KANYE.-GOLFCRONIE-DEMON TREE.
    I have been perfectly clear respecting what i think about the corruption cases that involve C.F.K's government, i already said the reasons why i think that some of the denounces against her are absolutely ridiculous, anyway, it doesn't mean that perhaps in the future there is a serious cause, investigated by a serious judge, who can determine with solid prooves that she commited a delit, in that case, i'll just keep on defending untill the last day of my life, all the achievements that workers could get with her two administrations, but i won't consider in absolute that she's a politic prisoner, like Milagro Sala.
    I can understand that perhaps most of you don't like Sala, but the truth is that even if she was guilty of all the accusations against her, she must wait for her trial in freedom, becuse there are international pacts of human rights that Argentina signed, which were included in our constitution, which are being violated by Macri and Morales, that's the main reason why the U.N., the A.S.O, and the H.R.I.C. say that she's a politic prisoner.
    Respecting the trial where she was sentenced for making and escrache, i just can say that i'm 35 years old, and it's the first time in my life i see that somebody is taken to a court for making an escrache, beside, she didn't participate of that protest, on the other hand, the only one witness who accuses her of instigation, is an employ of governor Morales, so, he is absolutely partial.
    There is something that is usually repeated, each time that Macri's government goes through a bad moment, there is a new denounce or a new charge against Cristina.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Kanye

    DT

    That's big of you.

    I just go by what I have read on here, the Bubble, respected international news sites, and their past dishonesty and fabrications to implicate the Falklanders, the UK, and their own people.

    Good enough for you?

    When you distill down the so-called impartial message of Axel it reads: “I can't vouch for CFK's/Sala's honesty, but they should not be charged. It is too complicated for you to understand”

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    @Kanye

    “It's interesting that both Mr Massot and Mr. Arg argue that the Suspicious Death investigation of Nisman, and the Corruption and Embezzlement charges against Sala should be disregarded as they are purely politically motivated.”

    Nisman's case was the object of dismissals at various levels of the justice system--however, it was now refloated after much forum shopping. It will go nowhere, as it has no basis, but is a tool for the government to stop CFK if she becomes too close to win an election later this year.

    As for Milagro Sala, I do not object to her being investigated but I do object to her being kept in prison for over a year now, when she should be waiting her trial at home, especially after the OAS and the UN have told so the Macri government.

    Jan 02nd, 2017 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Voice

    Hey Kanye...
    Let me translate what DT was too polite to say...
    WTF has it got to do with you Canadian...?
    Not British
    Not a British tax payer
    Not an Argentine
    Just a nosey Canadian....

    Is that good enough for you...?

    Jan 03rd, 2017 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    @Kanye
    It's fine, I only started reading here after Macri's election, so I missed all the craziness of the K years. I expect it produced more of an impression on those who were watching it happen. We'll find out more eventually anyway. I have to say I don't find the dollar futures case very convincing, but the guy hiding money in a nunnery was certainly suspicious (and ridiculous) enough. Has CFK actually been charged with anything else?

    @axel arg
    It's perfectly possible that CFK was stealing money for herself and friends even while trying to help the workers. There's really no doubt that this was happening next door in Brazil, after all.

    Anyway, apparently the UN group on arbitrary detention are going to visit Jujuy to look into Sala's imprisonment, but not until next May.

    Jan 03rd, 2017 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice

    DemonTree
    The Kanye ID appeared after you...so I guess he missed all the craziness of the K years too...
     
                                           NOT...
                                           what craziness...?
                                            ;-)))))

    Jan 03rd, 2017 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Kanye

    DT

    Think/Voice obliges us by very clearly demonstrating the abuse and bullying the Trolls heap on other posters to discreditb them in order to derail or divert discussion about the subject at hand.

    Jan 03rd, 2017 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Voice
    Not at all, I don't see anything wrong with anyone from any country posting here. And I certainly can't criticise other posters for being nosy!

    Jan 03rd, 2017 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Kanye

    DT

    Cheers, and thank you.

    Kanye

    Jan 03rd, 2017 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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