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Clashes, traffic blockades and smashed windows by anti Trump protestors
Black-clad activists smashed store windows and blocked traffic in Washington during US President Donald Trump's inauguration on Friday, and fought with police in riot gear who responded with tear gas and stun grenades. About 500 people, some wearing masks, marched through the city's downtown, using hammers to claw up chunks of pavement to smash the windows of a Bank of America branch and a McDonald's outlet, all symbols of the American capitalist system. Read full article
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Jan 21st, 2017 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse -3I thought they were civilised.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More people have attended the Women's March in D.C. than attended Trump's Ignorguration.
Jan 21st, 2017 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what they hoped to achieve? Such actions are more likely to turn people against their cause than anything else. But maybe they were mostly just troublemakers wanting an excuse for violence?
Jan 21st, 2017 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@FC
Interesting:
“employment in manufacturing fell during [Obama's tenure]. This does not mean U.S. manufacturing is in decline: American auto exports by volume broke records three years running through 2014. Rather, production has been automated to boost cost-competitiveness, making fewer workers necessary. Raising employment in the sector is thus at odds with revitalizing business there.”
It agrees with the article that said automation was the bigger problem for manufacturing jobs than outsourcing. And also suggests that if Trump does succeed in forcing US companies to employ more people it will ultimately make them less competitive. Also:
“Instead, the president-elect signaled with a sudden strike on the pharmaceutical industry that more political intervention in the affairs of individual companies could be in order -- a potential deterrent to economic activity underpinned by a set of uniform rules.”
So far, so CFK.
@ElaineB
Comparison of Trump's crowd with Obama's:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-inauguration-crowd-size/index.html
Google it if you don't want to click the link, it's quite striking.
@ DC
Jan 22nd, 2017 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't need to google, thanks, I am already quite aware. I have quite a few family and friends working in D.C. - as do I from time to time - so I keep up on events there.
For those who do not live here, this was the peaceful anti-Obama protesters in 2009.
Jan 23rd, 2017 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.revelist.com/politics/america-responds-obama/5855/yes-this-is-the-ultimate-acceptance-of-a-presidentelect/1
http://www.revelist.com/politics/america-responds-obama/5855/yes-this-is-the-ultimate-acceptance-of-a-presidentelect/1
http://www.revelist.com/politics/america-responds-obama/5855/yes-this-is-the-ultimate-acceptance-of-a-presidentelect/1
All in the name of God no less, South Baptists......the Alt-religion
Funny.....the democraPs are the ones who preach tolerance, yet they don't practise it.....no surprise. And what are these women protesting about ? that Trump has made them into 2nd class citizens ? where is all this crap coming from ? one likely answer, Mr. George Soros, the eternal agitator....and his unsuspecting followers are playing right into his hand....doesn't say much for their intelligence.
Jan 23rd, 2017 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bullshit on you democrap “crap”. And BTW, there are no Democrats nor Republicans in Brazil. I for one am neither, but I've never preached turn the other cheek. A lifetime in service to my country and I will show you how I turn a cheek!
Jan 23rd, 2017 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is it the Trumpeters have a problem with, in this case women, exercising free speech and the right to protest? And, at the end of the day, the opinion of one meaningless Brazilian of my fellow American women, is as relevant as pissing in the ocean.
What do you think Jackie, having a difficult time because no one wanted to reach out and grab your pussy?
If Trump was expecting an easy ride and for the Democrats to be quiet he has entirely misjudged the situation. More people voted for Clinton than Trump so he is going to have to accept a lot of strong opposition. He is already whining about it being demoralising. Too bad because it is going to get tougher. Though given the number of law suits already being filed and the fact that he seems to have lied - used an alternate fact - about transferring his businesses into his son's name, he may not make it to the end of his term.
Jan 23rd, 2017 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@JB
Jan 23rd, 2017 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What, because 500 people held a violent protest? How do you know they are even Democrats?
And as for protests, why is it so hard for you to believe people are honestly opposed to Trump, his policies, and his words and actions? You've seen that plenty of posters on here think he will make a terrible president; many Americans think the same.
Oh, and did you see that CFK has praised Trump for winning the election because 'the people' voted for him despite the opposition of the establishment and media, and because he is embracing the protectionism that she was criticised for and putting the workers and internal market first?
@ DT
Jan 24th, 2017 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Oh, and did you see that CFK has praised Trump”
Coke addicts stick together.
Protest Groups: FINALLY, woke up a bit late, didn't we?
Jan 24th, 2017 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@EB
Jan 24th, 2017 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Really? Current or former?
She seems to think her protectionist policies are vindicated because the US is now heading the same way, and that it proves Macri is taking the country in the wrong direction. But I'm surprised she didn't object more to his blaming immigrants for America's ills.
I don't understand why Trump had his press secretary lie about the size of the crowd, either. Is he really so obsessed with his own popularity?
@ DT
Jan 24th, 2017 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is an undocumented truth. He displays all the traits to support it.
There are many that think that is what will catch him out - someone will come forward with the proof. I disagree. I think he will break the laws of office and that will be his downfall. He never wanted the job anyway. Just the attention.
Sean Spicer's first press conference was like a hostage video. Don't you think he was made to lie? Of course he was. He was bullied into it by another of Trump's meltdowns. We can be sure of more alternate facts and whining about being demoralised. Trump has a huge ego and a very thin skin - another thing he has in common with CFK.
@Capt Poopy
Jan 25th, 2017 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just what the hell are talking about ? makes no sense....anyway, I think I have to ask you, “are you sure you're feeling OK ?”
Besides, I have no problem with “your” women protesting...but it IS a bit late, isn't it ?
@DT
How do I know they are even democrats ? well, I don't “KNOW”, but how likely is for Trump supporters to be protesting against him ? the pre-election polls also predicted very few women would vote for Trump....how accurate were they ?
As to being opposed to Trump, I have no difficulty in believing they are “honestly opposed to him” - am just questioning the point in protesting now...the election is over...they should get over it.
Sure I've seen that many posters on here think he'll be a terrible president...and I'm sure many Americans agree. In the way I'm sure many Americans think the opposite.
Just to be clear, I have never said he will be a great president - I only think it's a bit premature to jump to conclusions...I'd rather wait to see....if he turns out to be lousy, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
As far as CFK is concerned, she is full of bs....she's just trying to play politics...If it was in her interest to criticize him, she would too.
Premature.......maybe, however his daily press conference's are Baghdad Bob on a daily basis. His first one was to tell the press Trump had more people than Obama's inauguration.....PERIOD! 2nd......to inform the press of ”alternative facts.....3rd was to tell the press that Trump won the popular vote....and that there was 3.5 million fraudulent votes
Jan 26th, 2017 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trump is a pathological liar. The most inferior man, leader and president I have ever seen in my 58 years on this planet. He is the the creator of chaos. I am happy that I live in Massachusetts because the weaker states will become another Oklahoma...or Louisiana, Kansas. The things he wants to get rid of are scary, he is a threat to humanity and sensible people.
I live under him, you do not, I have to give him NO time. I am thankful I no longer serve in the military.
@JB
Jan 26th, 2017 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You asked where all this crap was coming from, and suggested George Soros. That's why I was pointing out that many Americans do feel strongly about Trump, so there is no need to blame shady figures working behind the scenes. Also just because the US only has two parties, it doesn't mean everyone actually supports one or the other. In fact that's probably a major reason why 49% of Americans did not even bother voting in the last election. So I think that people who oppose Trump are not necessarily Democrats.
And apparently Captain Poppy neither practices nor preaches tolerance; I hope you found his comments refreshing, heh.
About CFK, I'm sure she could have criticised him if she had wanted - there are plenty of differences as well as some strong similarities - but it's interesting that she considers his victory has vindicated her in some way. I do think his refusal to completely give up his business interests is a very bad sign too.
@Captain Poppy
Didn't Trump say he would order the military to carry out waterboarding and other torture methods on terrorism suspects? I can't imagine this will actually happen though.
@Capt Poppy
Jan 26th, 2017 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have the right to your opinion, and time might even prove you right...to get emotional about it is your choice, as is mine to hate Lula, the PT and all that the SOB represents.
But true, you have to live under him...not me.
@DT
it's not a matter of blaming shady figures behind the scenes...it's no secret that Soros is behind a good part of instigating and funding these protests...they are not spontaneous reactions. Ok, the US has two main parties, and you don't need to support one, or the other...but the choice DOES come down to one or the other. Have no figures regarding people who decided not to vote, but by what I remember, the numbers in this election were not all that different to previous ones.
Regarding Capt Poppy, I've had productive exchanges with him in the past, and found him to be level-headed - reason why I was slightly surprised by his childish manner, flying off the handle and suggesting I was “having a difficult time because no one wanted to reach out and grab your pussy?”......idiotic.
Going back to CFK, she will grasp at anything she can to try to vindicate her disastrous policies, so as far as I'm concerned, she is irrelevant. Just like Dilma, recently in Spain at some commie congress...she'll say anything to try to convince people she had Brazil on the right track....she too, is now irrelevant.
Right, Trump did announce he is in favour of waterboarding etc....not necessarily my view, however, “just to provoke a discussion” , how to you think the Islamic terrorists and others (not 'mere' suspects), who chop off heads and blow up innocent bystanders, should be treated after they are caught ?
@JB
Jan 26th, 2017 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have any evidence that Soros is behind these marches? From what I have read about the organisers, they seem strikingly unprofessional; you'd think if a shady billionaire was behind it all he could do a better job.
And yes, the number of nonvoters is only a little higher in this election than previous ones. That is why I think people may be disillusioned by only having two parties to choose from, especially as in many areas there is little difference between them. And other people may choose to vote for one or the other, while not actually supporting the party, just because they think the other one would be worse.
I wouldn't write CFK off as irrelevant just yet. She still has a fair amount of support, and there are elections due at the end of this year. She's been charged with various things but not convicted of anything yet. Similarly, Lula will surely stand for president next time, unless he is convicted of something first.
As for 'Islamic terrorists and others', if they are caught in Britain or the US they should be tried and sentenced according to the law. If they are caught in Iraq or Syria then I guess they would be prisoners of war and should be treated according to the Geneva Conventions.
I don't believe we should descend to the level of our enemies; if we become as bad as them, then what are we even fighting for? I also don't want to give my government a licence to use torture, given how much governments tend to abuse their powers, and given how many innocent people have been convicted of crimes in the past.
Also there are other ways of getting information out of people, and I don't think torture is so effective as to be worth all the downsides. Sure, people will tell the truth under torture, but they will also make up whatever they think the torturer wants to hear. That's a lot of false information to wade through.
Jack, you don;t know me to make that bold statement to claim I am emotional. And yes I have the right to my opinion as do the women who peacefully demonstrated their repulsion to a man who brags about reaching out and grabbing their pussy, brags about walking in woman's dressing rooms because he is the boss, lacks the class and respect to wait for his 3rd wife getting out of the limo at his inauguration. Yes Jack, I loath the fact that a pig, a dysfunctional sociopathic narcissist is bury my country.
Jan 27th, 2017 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now, onto our trade war with Mexico. The 20% tax on imports......almost 300 billion at 20% more in costs should fair well for those businesses importing them......and expecting to sell them 30% or higher in prices.
As I said before......I am giving Trump the same amount of time the GOP gave Obama to make something happen.......nothing less, nothing more.
Ironic his lawyers successfully argued to stop recounts because the integrity of the elections are solid, yet, he refers to studies about registration databases as a basis of fraud. Even the authors of the study said that there was no fraud. The man needs adderall to focus.
This is one week, he will cross the real GOP's Rubicon sooner than later.
@Capt Poppy
Jan 27th, 2017 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right. I don't know you, and I don't need to - your reaction says it all. If you want to hate Trump, be my guest, but go unload your frustrations on someone else.
@DT
Besides being the type of thing Soros does, I've seen a couple of reports – one from a “Capital Research Center”, which states “The groups that organized the Women’s March on Washington on Saturday were underwritten by radical currency speculator George Soros, the same man who says Communist China’s system of government is superior to our own and that the United States is the number one obstacle to world peace.”
From the NYT, Asra Q. Nomani writes “the march really isn’t a ‘women’s march.’ It’s a march for women who are anti-Trump.”
Nomani is a former Georgetown journalism professor and WSJ reporter who describes herself as “a lifelong liberal feminist who voted for Donald Trump for president.”
She continues: “As someone who voted for Trump, I don’t feel welcome, nor do many other women who reject the liberal identity-politics that is the core underpinnings of the march, so far, making white women feel unwelcome, nixing women who oppose abortion and hijacking the agenda.”
In a spreadsheet she links to in her article, she identifies many organizations that were partners in the march that received grants through the two major Soros philanthropies, the Open Society Institute and the Foundation to Promote Open Society. Other (but not all) left-wing Soros-funded groups involved were: MoveOn, American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Advancement Project; American Constitution Society; America’s Voice; Arab American Association of New York; Asian Americans Advancing Justice; Center for Reproductive Rights; Color of Change; Communities United for Police Reform; Demos; Every Voice; Green for All; League of Women Voters; NAACP etc…
And of course, cannot exclude the foul-mouthed Maddona…the irrelevant porn-star said she’d leave the US if Trump won….why is she still there ?
No more space...
My, you must be as sensitive as Trump, don't get your Brazilian in a bunch. Besides,
Jan 27th, 2017 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And as you have the right to post whatever you feel like, but with posts like this, I will rider you ass over the edge is I please, and, in the words of your beloved Trump, there is not a thing you will or can do about it.
Jack Bauer
Funny.....the democraPs are the ones who preach tolerance, yet they don't practise it.....no surprise. And what are these women protesting about ? that Trump has made them into 2nd class citizens ? where is all this crap coming from ? one likely answer, Mr. George Soros, the eternal agitator....and his unsuspecting followers are playing right into his hand....doesn't say much for their intelligence.
Your intelligence must be called into question if you really don't know hy women are vehemently against Trump. Maybe ALL the news is not quite rebroadcast in Brazil.
@JB
Jan 27th, 2017 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It’s a march for women who are anti-Trump.”
Well, yeah. Has she been living under a rock or something? The march was to protest Trump and his policies, why on earth does she want to go on it if she supports him?
About Soros, have a look at this: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jan/25/blog-posting/pants-fire-george-soros-money-womens-march-protest/
It's mostly about whether the participants were paid to march, but they interviewed the woman you quoted and she said “I believe that most of the people were motivated by sincere political and ideological beliefs. I do believe that most of the participants in the march had genuine concerns.”
Since Soros is apparently helping to fund such a large and diverse set of groups, I think it was kind of inevitable that a good number of them would appear among the organisers. Apparently 403 groups were listed as partners of the march.
What do you think of Trump so far anyway? Only six days in power and he's begun building the wall (and got funding from the US taxpayer, for now anyway), he's made a good start on a trade war with Mexico, and his press secretary has declared that the media are the opposition party. That last one actually scares me; a free press is essential for democracy, and Trump has just declared war on it.
So far he is turning out exactly how I feared.
@Capt Poopy
Jan 28th, 2017 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what, me sensitive ? bloody joke....you're the poor soul that has gotten his knickers in a twist over Trump... I know I should tell you to get lost, but because you might be developing Alzheimer's at the tender age of 58, I'll repeat : I only said you ought to give Trump some time before condemning him ; but do as you please, I really don't care.
Just for your info, I have accesss to BBC, and several US channels...but tell me, is your meltdown due to the 'woman-in-you' coming to the surface ?
@DT
“Well, yeah. Has she been living under a rock or something? The march was to protest Trump and his policies, why on earth does she want to go on it if she supports him?”
Looks like it all just boils down to opinion, doesn't it ? bloggers against journalists etc...who REALLY knows the full truth ? and if anyone does, is he/she totally impartial ?
My opinion on Trump ? I think he should control his mouth better, he should concentrate on being a bit more 'statesman-like', now that he is actually occupying the WH, but I cannot condemn him for putting America first...isn't that what all countries do, or at least try to ? his ideas, at first glance, appear absurd, but perhaps 'some' of his core-thoughts have some basic truth in them, and should be analysed more deeply before being discarded...he managed to rouse enough Americans, to the point of getting them to take him seriously...why ? because, as far as they were concerned, BO's policies went against the grain. I said before and will repeat, a serious 3rd contender would have been desirable, but it boiled down to Trump and HRC...and I never liked HRC. As to Trump endangering a free-press, I wouldn't let that worry me - it would take a civil war to change that...
To finalize, I'm not saying Trump IS great, nor that he WILL be, just saying, give the guy a chance....even despising HRC, I'd give her some leeway before throwing crap at her, had she won.
@JB
Jan 28th, 2017 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How long did you give Lula before making up your mind about him? I reckon Captain Poppy's feelings about Trump are pretty similar to yours about Lula, and I think you'd give short shrift to anyone praising HIM.
No, we never really know the whole truth. All we can do is find the best evidence possible and try not to believe things just because they fit our prejudices or say what we want to be true.
So far Trump is going ahead with the wall, which I remember you did not think likely, and also going ahead with his protectionist measures (if his party let him). We will get to see what the results are soon enough. Maybe worse is how much he will need to borrow to fund his planned spending increases and tax cuts. AFAIK the last US president to run a surplus was Bill Clinton, the national debt already doubled under Bush and doubled again under Obama.
And I'm surprised you're not worried about the free press. Don't you already think your 'mainstream media' aren't reporting everything fairly? If the press is in such a bad state already, won't it be fairly easy for Trump to convince people to dismiss any stories criticising him?
I suppose you ran out of space in your last post to talk about torture, but I doubt my opinions came as much of a surprise. I'm guessing you do not agree, and think that terrorists deserve whatever they get, that torture is effective in at least some circumstances and we should fight fire with fire. Am I right?
Bloody and knickers you say? Yeeeeeah........ok you “Brazilian” boy. You've been on the telly too long, it shows in your name.
Jan 29th, 2017 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Poopy, really......are you 10 years old? Name calling......do you work for trump? Shit flows downhill and so does style. I would assume you are the last stop.
@DT
Jan 29th, 2017 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll admit, never liked Lula - knew him from his union days, and he was just a trouble-maker - and when he was elected (end 2002) I wasn't happy....regardless, I knew I couldn't change things, so didn't waste time protesting uselessly. Once sworn in, it was clear that not even the PT had expected him to win, and as a result they had absolutely no government programme....the good that came from that was he was 'obliged' to carry on with FHC's policies, and after writing an open-letter announcing he would not try to change anything that was working well, people relaxed - including me - and we came to accept that maybe he would do some good...such as keep his promises. His first term was bang in the middle of the worldwide economic boom which started in 2004...Brazil did well, but could've done far better if Lula weren't what he proved to be later...anyway, his popularity carried him into his 2nd term, and that's when the corruption scheme surface...it was then that I - and most people with a brain - realized what he was. Time and events have proved me right. But yes, I gave him the benefit of the doubt - for a couple of years.
Not worried about the free press in the US...it's too strong an institution to be affected by external events ...to me, the problem with the MSM in the US, is inside it.
I do find in Brazil however, that certain media groups flower things up a bit, or omit the full (nasty) truth when it suits them...even the “O Globo”, Brazil's largest media group. To me, the only really honest media group is “O Estadão”....traditional centre, and lambasts anyone who deserves it, regardless of their ideology.
@Capt Poppy
After your “What do you think Jackie, having a difficult time because no one wanted to reach out and grab your pussy?”, and “shit flows downhill” etc...find it strange you think “Poopy” “bloody”, 'n “knickers” is “name-calling”....as for 'Poopy', you asked for it...act like a child, and I'll treat you like one.
Now should I assume that you presume me to be a ”democrap? And take issue and lack the comprehension just why women in the USA and around the world protest your Donald? Again, maybe you don't get all the information we Americans do in the USA........of course you don't. So, my bad for criticizing your ignorance. I'll try a little harder the next time John and I promise that I will not reach our and grab your pussy because after all, I am not a celebrity like The Donald, so your pussy is safe.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Capt Poppy
Jan 30th, 2017 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I really don't know what you are, but you are entitled to your choices and your opinions. You said a few days ago that you were ex-military....well, in respect for two great friends of mine in the US, both ex-USAF pilots, I'm going to extend to you the same respect I have for them, and propose an end to this useless feud. The truth be known, neither of us knows the other, and accusations, or insults, without the slightest basis, are going to get us nowhere.
We can agree to disagree and still act civilly towards each other....what d'you say ? peace ?
Peace....and of course we can disagree. I get irked by the people, and namely here in my own country who wish to jail and even harm the women who protest. I vehemently defend anyone's right to do that. There are so many people repulsed by Trump being the leader, it makes it very difficult to give him time when everything he is doing flies in the face of what America has stood for.
Jan 30th, 2017 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We do not want to wall ourselves in, we respect free speech......read Trump supporters comments on people who criticize Trump......snowflakes, commies, shot them them.....lock them in jail. It's sickening to see the chaos and civil war that Trump is breeding.......even the GOP(when I say GOP, I mean the real GOP) is not bending on Russia as our friend.
Trumps order violates the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, he is not governing, he is creating edicts and holding them up to show like.....“look at my drawing mommy”! I was not an Obama supporter either, but he did govern and resorted to EO's when the oppoisition refused to move on anything, even bills that were previously created verbatim by the GOP. The GOP spelled out exactly who they planned to ruin Obama's administration. Now.....the USA has a regime in the White House. More troubling is the removal of the DNI and CJCOS from the NSC.....which is now seated Bannon, a supremacist.
How do you acknowledge the Holocaust Remembrance Day and not one word mentions a jew? Tantamount to Veterans Day or Memorial Day and not mentioning the vets.
Forgive me if I am agitated, riled and angry, but I have a puppet president running my country, heavily influenced by a hate monger who is hell bent on making the United States of America into something it never was and does not want to be. It's a said day when an independent minded citizen have to peg hopes on conservation (normal) GOP leaders will come to their senses and put country over party before Trump opens all the seacocks.
Have a good day
@JB
Jan 30th, 2017 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did Lula do anything to inspire hatred before he became president like Trump did?
But I don't think we need to give Trump two years in any case, one week in and he has already started putting his policies into effect. He's already asked congress for money to build the wall, cancelled the TPP free trade deal, and threatened Mexico with tariffs. And now he's banned people from 7 countries from entering the USA, including duel nationals. Do you know anyone affected by the Muslim travel ban? I have a friend whose mother is from Iran, but luckily for her the Iranian government are a bunch of misogynists so she didn't inherit the citizenship. Her mother is included though.
And there is also something he has not done, which is give up his businesses. So any company that wants to make a good impression on him, or foreign government that wants sympathetic treatment, can book one of his hotels and spend lots of money. Every other president since Nixon gave up their business interests to avoid even the appearance of corruption.
With all the bribery going on in Brazil, has there been any suggestion of the press being bribed to hush things up or give more favourable coverage? Seems like it would be beneficial for any politician.
Also do you have tabloids there? Some of the UK ones are pretty awful in terms of biased headlines, and immigrants are their favourite target, or were before Brexit. Now they are picking on anyone who they think supported the Remain campaign.
As for the press in America, it does seem pretty determined to stand up to his threats at the moment. But if you think it was biased, it is hardly likely to become less so when the president is so hostile to journalists.
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