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Argentina makes it easier to deport foreigners who commit crimes or with records

Tuesday, January 31st 2017 - 12:17 UTC
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Argentina changed its immigration law to make it easier to deport foreigners who commit crimes and to prohibit individuals with criminal records from entering the country, according to a post in the government's official bulletin on Monday. Read full article

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  • DemonTree

    Awkward timing, but this law seems pretty reasonable. Who would have thought a year ago that it would be the USA passing the crazy laws and Argentina the sane ones?

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Marti Llazo

    What crazy laws have been passed recently in the US, DT?

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    I'm sure you have enough wits to work that out for yourself, Marti. Aren't you supposed to be the expert on populist leaders and policies that are designed to please their supporters rather than accomplish anything useful?

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    In other words, DT, you have as usual not the foggiest idea what laws may have been passed in the US in this regard and speak entirely from your emotional position.

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • ElaineB

    @ DT

    ML is just baiting for an argument.

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Marti Llazo

    And Elaine can submit no mention of any such laws, either.

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Perhaps he is quibbling over whether Executive Orders count as laws? They have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress, so I'm not really bothered if that is the wrong technical term.

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Marti Llazo

    DT of course you don't mind being wrong. Executive Orders are not laws and have much narrower scope. The Obama government was roundly criticised by its opposition for using EO powers rather than engaging the legislature, in effect attempting to bypass and circumvent the legislative process. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, those who supported Obama's reliance on such dubious shortcuts now find themselves on the other end of the stick. The EOs that the current US president has signed are essentially directives for how the executive branch can exercise its authority. You will note that when such exercise of authority conflicts with legislative provisions, the EO can be judicially challenged and nullified, while the reverse is not true.

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Indeed, Marti. Being wrong is only a problem if you won't admit to it and resort to increasingly pathetic justifications, or lies.

    This explains why you were feigning ignorance, anyway. I suppose you were planning some sort of 'gotcha' if I had taken the bait.

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Marti Llazo

    Captain Poppy responded to an earlier query: to identify an alleged violation of a law. He answered perfectly and apparently, correctly. DT acknowledged his error and proceeded to whinge .

    Interesting observation (don't know if it's all true) concerning possible means for revocation of US executive orders. One is predicable: a president can undo his own EOs and those of any earlier president. Number two is that the legislature can nullify an EO, meaning that a law can trump an EO. So to speak. But if the US Congress wishes to overcome an EO with legislation, and the president doesn't like that solution and vetoes it, then the Congress has to come up with a 2/3 supermajority to overcome the veto. Not likely given the president's party in control of both houses.

    The third is the matter at hand: an EO, being subordinate to law, can be judicially challenged and revoked if it is contrary to relevant legislation. But if this email material from the US is correct, the judiciary only rarely does that, and about 85 percent or so of the judicially challenged EOs survive.

    It would be interesting for some authoritative sourcing of that stuff.

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Sure, Marti. Now why don't you go post that in the other thread where it's actually relevant?

    Jan 31st, 2017 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Numbers from the argie media today on foreigners and crime here:

    An estimated 1.8 million foreigners in Argentina, about 4.6 percent of the residents.

    4307 foreigners under arrest/jailed

    2206 in the national prisons. 1284 of those on drug offenses.

    Within the national prison system, the largest nationality group is.... Paraguayans . Then Peruvians. Then Bolivians. Then Colombians.

    Numbers in combined national and provincial justice systems, for drug offenses:

    1284, or 33.76 percent of all drug offenders.

    Feb 01st, 2017 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • golfcronie

    Oh dear NOT many “ Anglos ” we must be slipping, normally we are very near the top in most statistics.HaHa

    Feb 03rd, 2017 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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