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“Plainly obvious” EU would include Spain's Gibraltar veto in Brexit negotiating guidelines

Sunday, April 30th 2017 - 09:22 UTC
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European leaders have endorsed a joint negotiating position on Brexit, including the controversial Spanish veto over the application of any future U.K./EU trade deal to Gibraltar. The 27 remaining members states formally agreed their talks strategy at a special European Council meeting in Brussels. Read full article


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  • gordo1

    Many of us in the UK voted to remain to remain. However, having now seen the posture of the 27 against Britain I have now changed my mind and believe the soon we leave the UE the better,

    What a collection of nasty immature people they are!

    Apr 30th, 2017 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Brit Bob

    PM  Rajoy- Gibraltar “this is the such territory in Europe and that affects to our own integrity territorial”, said the Mr Rajoy, saying that Britain had “ignored the mandate” of the Assembly General of the UN. (Daily Telegraph, 26 September 2013).

    According to Rajoy & Co this puts a stop to the people of Gibraltar claiming self-determination. Hm.

    Gibraltar – Territorial Integrity:

    Apr 30th, 2017 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15

    Must admit I am coming round to the same opinion. I was pro-Europe until this round of nastiness started.
    Spain can say bye-bye to fishing in UK (Scottish waters) if this is their attitude. As to their fruit and veg. that can be obtained elsewhere. Where are they going to sell it ?

    From what I see in the supermarkets, we seem to get a lot from South Africa, Chile, New Zealand and other African/Asian sources. They would be more than happy to sell us more if EU quotas no longer applied. Wine is easily obtained as there is a glut in the EU.
    Anyway Australian, S.African and Chilean could make up any shortfall.

    Bring it on !

    Apr 30th, 2017 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • The Voice

    I am not surprised that folk are now seeing the EU for what that actually are.

    Apr 30th, 2017 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice


    I was saying much the same thing on the other thread before I read your comment...
    They sure know how to rub folk up the wrong way...

    Apr 30th, 2017 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Spanish veto over Gibraltar in the European council’s draft negotiating guidelines is illegal under binding supreme international law. Namely,the Charter of the United Nations, Chapter I, Article 1 Article 2, and Article 73. Also a violation of the following UN resolutions Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples Adopted by General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV), and United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2131(XX). Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention in the Domestic Affairs of States and the Protection of Their Independence and Sovereignty.

    May 01st, 2017 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Voice

    “Intervention in the Domestic Affairs of States and the Protection of Their Independence and Sovereignty.”

    Legal definition of a State...

    “As a noun, a people permanently occupying a fixed territory bound together by common habits and custom into one body politic exercising, through the medium of an organized government, independent sovereignty and control over all persons and things within its boundaries, capable of making war and peace and of entering into international relations with other states. ”

    Soooo...not a State...

    May 01st, 2017 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Keep calm Sassenachs...

    As long as the Tory & Labour manifesto strongly support Falklands' and Gibraltars' right to self determination..., and them Colonials keep celebrating Queen's birthday with sunny weather..., things will be alright for Little England...;-)))

    May 01st, 2017 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
    “Soooo...not a State…” “Including the controversial Spanish veto over the application of any future U.K./EU trade deal to Gibraltar.” But the application is against the UK and thus the international law as stated at

    May 01st, 2017 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1


    Here in South Hampshire we get citric fruit from South Africa, Morocco, Uruguay, ARGENTINA and Chile. Good wines are coming from ARGENTINA as well as the countries you mention. And, of course, champagne style wines are now being produced in the UK - thanks to climate change.

    We could buy our cars from Brasil and Mexico and even China.

    May 01st, 2017 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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