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Falklands/Malvinas: Argentine Air Force recalls 35th “Baptism of Fire” in May 1982

Tuesday, May 2nd 2017 - 05:47 UTC
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Argentina's Air Force commemorated with a parade and display of force the 35th anniversary of its ''Baptism of Fire”, which occurred on May first 1982 when Argentine fighters completed over 50 sorties in an attempt to repeal the British Task Force sent to recover the Malvinas Islands. Read full article

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  • The Voice

    Recover the Falklands? How can you recover territory you never owned?

    Did he say Falklands?

    Airfix are doing great!

    May 02nd, 2017 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • gordo1

    BUT - what is there to commemorate? THEIR TEMPORARY OCCUPATION OF THE BRITISH FALKLAND ISLANDS WAS DECLARED ILLEGAL BY THE UNITED NATIONS AND THEY WERE DIRECTED TO WITHDRAW THEIR TROOPS - WHICH THEY IGNORED.

    A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER THEY SURRENDERED TO THE BRITISH AND WITHDREW “WITH THEIR TAILS BETWEEN THEIR LEGS”. “¡QUE NABOS Y BOLUDOS!”.

    May 02nd, 2017 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Brit Bob

    However speeches at El Palomar Air Brigade I were prudent arguing that even when recovering the Falklands/Malvinas is a permanent goal for Argentina and its Air Force, it will be achieved through “dialogue and diplomacy”.

    Ah, that'll be the mythical Malvinas chestnut created by Peron.

    Falklands- Never Belonged to Argentina:
    https://www.academia.edu/31111843/Falklands_Never_Belonged_to_Argentina

    May 02nd, 2017 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Room101

    Enough. Death is the leveller.

    May 02nd, 2017 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Fake news... again... at MercopenguinPress...
    Some of us have memory..., ya know...?.


    Argentine Air Force “Baptism of Fire” was not in May 1982...
    Argentine Air Force ”Baptism of Fire” iwas in June 1955...
    Were they participated in the killing of ~300 Argies...

    https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardeo_de_la_Plaza_de_Mayo#La_lucha_en_el_aire

    May 02nd, 2017 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • The Voice

    That picture...are those Airfix fighters being towed by the Hercules? One has just fallen off!

    May 02nd, 2017 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • pgerman

    @Think

    False again Think. The “Gloster Meteors” that attacked, and bombed, Plaza de Mayo killing 300 people were from the Argentine Navy...a bunch of catholic nationalist that President Peron (after a secret deal with them) indulted little time before.

    May 02nd, 2017 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Clyde15

    To me, the General was referring to having a baptism of fire against an external enemy not a civil war against their own people in which there should be no pride.

    The Navy and Air force tried but were not good enough to dispose of a small group of highly trained professional “killers” in H.M's service and suffered grievous losses in the progress.

    The Argentinian pilots showed courage but not enough strategic skill in a battle they should never have lost....but they did lose badly.

    May 02nd, 2017 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Argie Turnip just above....

    Argie Navy never had no Gloster Meteors...
    Argie Airforce had about one hundred Gloster Mk IV...

    Educate yourself..., pebete...
    That would save you a lot of unnecessary embarrasment...

    May 02nd, 2017 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • pgerman

    @Think

    Yes, it was my mistake. Thye were from the FAA.

    You, pendejo ignorante, can enjoy it, but the real, and historical, fact is that President Peron reached a agreement with the pilots to save their lives. He, Peron, and his family, were safe far, very far, from plaza de Mayo. Who care the rest of the people?

    May 02nd, 2017 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Argie Turnip just above...

    You wrote...:
    《“ real, and historical, fact is that............ He, Peron and his family, were safe far, very far...”》

    I say...:
    “Peron and his family”...?
    Family...?
    What family...?

    As I said before...
    Educate yourself..., pebete...
    That would save you a lot of unnecessary embarrasment...

    May 02nd, 2017 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    Doesn't that link to Wikipedia that Think pasted say the Air Force Gloster Meteors were fighting against the attacking Naval planes and that shooting one down was their real 'Baptism of Fire'?

    Mercopress probably just nicked the idea off Clarin anyway.

    May 02nd, 2017 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSesDoidao

    I recomend reading Dave Morgan's and 'Sharky' Wards memoirs on the air war. Both SHAR pilots, - One RAF, one FAA. (on Hermes and Invincible)

    May 02nd, 2017 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    Jupppppp...
    It says precisely that...
    Until the rebels seized the base...
    Arrested the loyal pilots and took off again to bomb civilians...

    Is all there..., in that Wiki article...
    You have just to read things to the end..., laddie...
    But if that's too hard for a millenial... you may watch it on youtube....
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHoW3DNTwco

    May 03rd, 2017 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    So did some of the airforce join in bombing civilians or was it just their planes that were taken?

    And why the hell were they bombing crowds of people anyway? It's crazy that the only planes to ever attack and bomb your capital city were your own.

    May 03rd, 2017 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    You ask..:
    “So did some of the airforce join in bombing civilians or was it just their planes that were taken?”

    I say...:
    Please ..., Think...
    How many Army or Navy rebels do you Think were able to pilot a Gloster Meteor in 1955...?
    The answer me friend is.......: 0

    May 03rd, 2017 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Clearly the Navy had trained pilots, I don't know how similar their planes were to the Gloster Meteor or whether any of them would be able to fly one in 1955. I got the impression that back then planes weren't as complicated so skills were more transferable.

    The English version of Wikipedia just says “The rebels seized the Meteors and pressed them into service,” which is vague and who knows how accurate. So what really happened?

    May 03rd, 2017 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    Mr. Demon Tree...

    Thebest plane the Argie Navy and Army had in 1955 was this one...:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4ZdEJMQFIeE/USl3v32fmoI/AAAAAAAAA4I/utagiRUfNDo/s1600/Foto01.JPG

    No chance in hell an Argie Navy or Army pilot could have flown one of these ladies...:
    2.bp.blogspot.com/-WgkKXetXNG0/UmEaeEt42ZI/AAAAAAAAjqA/L4eJjDl-_30/s640/sa-7-grail-guerra-de-malvinas.jpg

    May 03rd, 2017 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • darragh

    Funny that he didn't mention that it was also the Argentine Merchant Navy's baptism of fire when the Elma Formosa was attacked by 4 A-4Bs of Grupo 5....

    Wings of the Malvinas, Santiago Rivas, Hikoki Publications, Buenos Aires, 2010

    May 03rd, 2017 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. Darragh...

    Maybe because the Argentine Merchant Navy's had enough baptism of fire during the Great European War...

    May 05th, 2017 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Hepatia

    England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.

    May 06th, 2017 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Clyde15

    What was the Great European War ? Another chimp invention ?

    May 06th, 2017 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    He probably meant the Great War aka WWI.

    “As with Brazil and Peru, a German submarine attacked a ship from Argentina's merchant navy - the Monte Protegido - in early April. When the news of the sinking was made public in Buenos Aires ten days later, it sparked a storm of protests and intense rioting that resulted in injuries and the destruction of a number of German establishments.”

    German submarines had a nasty habit of sinking neutral shipping.

    May 06th, 2017 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Lowland Gorilla...

    Educate yourself...:
    《“One day the Great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans”》
    Otto von Bismarck (1888)

    May 06th, 2017 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    You may call it the Great European war but it is officially the first world war and has been known as this since WW2.

    I see you are stuck in the 19th century in your attitudes to current affairs which is consistent with your 1833 myth.

    May 07th, 2017 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Wow Think, you believe that not recognising a part of an obscure quotation taken completely out of context makes you uneducated? If you went round asking people my age you'd be lucky to find anyone who's even heard of Bismarck.

    I was right though, he did mean WWI. And that war might never have happened if Bismarck was still in charge of Germany.

    Also I just read that the King of Denmark offered to have his country join the German confederation after losing a war with Prussia. Maybe if Bismarck had agreed, Denmark could have ended up being part of Germany when it unified. Crazy.

    May 07th, 2017 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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