The future of Galician fishing after Brexit could generate very harmful measures in the field of fish imports from a fisheries that is as wealthy and important for the Galician fleet as that of the Falkland Islands. Read full article
What about an arrangement such as Spain withdraws all its nonsensical claims to sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands allows the Spaniards to continue to fish in their waters?
Spain like the EU thinks it has got the UK over a barrel.
Not so.
This is why it might not be sensible for Scotland to remain in the EU-they might want to ask their fishermen that went out of business first.
@gordo1
What about an arrangement such as Spain withdraws all its nonsensical claims to sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands allows the Spaniards to continue to fish in their waters?
Unless I got this wrong, Spain also fish a lot in UK waters.
If we are going to be charged a massive exit fee from the EU, at the least we should pile on tariffs for EU fishermen to fish in our waters to get the exit fees back.
I understand your motive BUT this IS a thread concerning the Falkland Islands not Scotland! Anyway the Sunday newspapers last weekend carried the information that the EU have no legal basis to charge any exit fees when Brexit takes effect. Pugol-H above also refers to this development.
Good news indeed that there is no legal basis to rip off the UK, thanks for that information.
Yes I am off thread, but however, is it not true that under the CFP that Spanish ships also fish UK waters?
Gordo 1, Your point about Spanish fishing Falkland waters in exchange for not claiming Gibraltar is fair, but I would also pointedly support an independence referendum for Catalonia, every time Spain opens its mouth about Gib.
In practically every supermarket are Spanish salads-that must also be a huge trade that could be threatened if Spain continue to whine. The salads come mainly from the south of Spain, near Gibraltar.
And threatening to stop Spanish ships fishing in UK waters might also concentrate Spanish minds.
Murcia, the province of Spain which produces the majority of salad products for export, is not near Gibraltar. It is some 330 miles and over 5 hours by car away!
@Pete Bog
Of all EU countries, Spain has the second largest trade surplus with the UK, after Germany.
Mostly manufactured goods (10-15% tariff) and agricultural produce, including wines etc (30-40% tariff) as well as large investments in the UK like Santander and Heathrow Airport.
The real killer however is 18 million British holiday makers flying to Spain every year, with 300,000 + retired spending money in Spain all year.
Brexit will require a new Aviation agreement between the UK and EU, Spain will insist Gib Airport is excluded, the Brits won’t do a deal without it included.
As March 2019 approaches, the Spanish will notice they have NO bookings from the UK after that date, for anything.
Only ever going to be one winner in that argument.
After Ireland, Spain is hit hardest by a hard Brexit, just the hit to their tourist industry alone will put their economy flat on its face again, just when it was getting back on its knees.
Galcia Fishing Industry has a lot of investment in joint venture partnerships in Falklands fisheries and generally there has been and is a good long term relationship between the 2
so yes - Galicia and Vigo will be keen to have some sort of separate agreement with the Falklands - and we with them.
As you may know..., Galicia is an integral part of Spain..., that is an integral part of the EU...
As you may know...,Spain is escalating quite strongly their conflict with the UK over Gibraltar..
As you may hVe guessed..., we Argies will do our utmost to include the Malvinas in that conflict...
You Kelpers better begin discussing some alternative contingency plans...
I have only superficial knowledge about the Falkland's fisheries but I do know a bit about the UK fisheries. The N.E. Scottish fishing fleets are worried that they will be sold down the river as they were under Thatcher when the BREXIT negotiations get underway.
In order for the UK Govt. to get concessions on the Finance industry, they will be traded in as part of the deal.
If the SNP get a referendum and this leads to independence, they will want to get back in the EU. This means the common fishing policy and back to square one.
It could be even worse. The CFP wanted fishing up to the shore line which would wipe out the small local craft who operate small vessels close to their home base. They fish on a daily basis and return in the evening.
It does not surprise me that Argentina want to become involved. They are always sticking their nose in where it's none of their business.
Your desperate exhortation to persuade us to peruse http://www.malvinas-falklands.net/book/ is about as useful as is Hepatitis (from the manicomio) suggesting that the Falkland Islands will be Argentine within 25 years.
THERE IS NOT ONE WORD OF TRUTH EITHER FROM YOU OR FROM HEPATITIS.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat about an arrangement such as Spain withdraws all its nonsensical claims to sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands allows the Spaniards to continue to fish in their waters?
May 10th, 2017 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse +1Ahhh the penny has finally dropped.
May 10th, 2017 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse +2Spain like the EU thinks it has got the UK over a barrel.
Not so.
This is why it might not be sensible for Scotland to remain in the EU-they might want to ask their fishermen that went out of business first.
@gordo1
What about an arrangement such as Spain withdraws all its nonsensical claims to sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands allows the Spaniards to continue to fish in their waters?
Unless I got this wrong, Spain also fish a lot in UK waters.
If we are going to be charged a massive exit fee from the EU, at the least we should pile on tariffs for EU fishermen to fish in our waters to get the exit fees back.
“recalled that the main ”weapon“ is to have the ”market“.
May 10th, 2017 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“needs to sell us fish and that is our asset,”
What galaxy is he living in?????
That the Galician fishing fleet will be hit by tariffs, making it difficult for them, has no effect on selling licences to boats of other nationality.
Plenty more fishing boats in the sea where fishing is concerned. Ha Ha.
@Pete Bog
There is no “bill” to pay, even the EU’s own lawyers have told them that.
The fact they still try and pretend there is, does indicate a level of desperation on their part.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/06/100bn-brexit-bill-legally-impossible-enforce-european-commissions/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/06/100bn-brexit-bill-legally-impossible-enforce-european-commissions/
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/07/even-eu-lawyers-say-e100bn-brexit-bill-is-legally-impossible-to-enforce-6621018/
May 10th, 2017 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1But the waters being fished are on Argentina's Continental Shelf?
May 10th, 2017 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Falklands – Territorial Waters: https://www.academia.edu/10574593/Falklands_Islands_Territorial_Waters
Methinks the FIG will be more interested in the revenue from the oil which as I understand will be 2019/2020 if all goes well.
May 10th, 2017 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pete Bog
May 10th, 2017 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understand your motive BUT this IS a thread concerning the Falkland Islands not Scotland! Anyway the Sunday newspapers last weekend carried the information that the EU have no legal basis to charge any exit fees when Brexit takes effect. Pugol-H above also refers to this development.
@Pugol-H and gordo1
May 10th, 2017 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good news indeed that there is no legal basis to rip off the UK, thanks for that information.
Yes I am off thread, but however, is it not true that under the CFP that Spanish ships also fish UK waters?
Gordo 1, Your point about Spanish fishing Falkland waters in exchange for not claiming Gibraltar is fair, but I would also pointedly support an independence referendum for Catalonia, every time Spain opens its mouth about Gib.
In practically every supermarket are Spanish salads-that must also be a huge trade that could be threatened if Spain continue to whine. The salads come mainly from the south of Spain, near Gibraltar.
And threatening to stop Spanish ships fishing in UK waters might also concentrate Spanish minds.
Of dear, its dawning on them that the UK is going to re-exert its control of it's fishing territories.
May 11th, 2017 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pete Bog
May 11th, 2017 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Murcia, the province of Spain which produces the majority of salad products for export, is not near Gibraltar. It is some 330 miles and over 5 hours by car away!
with regard to the dispute of sovereignty, you can read http://www.malvinas-falklands.net/book/
May 11th, 2017 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Pete Bog
May 11th, 2017 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of all EU countries, Spain has the second largest trade surplus with the UK, after Germany.
Mostly manufactured goods (10-15% tariff) and agricultural produce, including wines etc (30-40% tariff) as well as large investments in the UK like Santander and Heathrow Airport.
The real killer however is 18 million British holiday makers flying to Spain every year, with 300,000 + retired spending money in Spain all year.
Brexit will require a new Aviation agreement between the UK and EU, Spain will insist Gib Airport is excluded, the Brits won’t do a deal without it included.
As March 2019 approaches, the Spanish will notice they have NO bookings from the UK after that date, for anything.
Only ever going to be one winner in that argument.
After Ireland, Spain is hit hardest by a hard Brexit, just the hit to their tourist industry alone will put their economy flat on its face again, just when it was getting back on its knees.
Watch this space.
Galcia Fishing Industry has a lot of investment in joint venture partnerships in Falklands fisheries and generally there has been and is a good long term relationship between the 2
May 12th, 2017 - 07:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0so yes - Galicia and Vigo will be keen to have some sort of separate agreement with the Falklands - and we with them.
Sorry Mr. Islander1... but..., no can do...
May 12th, 2017 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse -1As you may know..., Galicia is an integral part of Spain..., that is an integral part of the EU...
As you may know...,Spain is escalating quite strongly their conflict with the UK over Gibraltar..
As you may hVe guessed..., we Argies will do our utmost to include the Malvinas in that conflict...
You Kelpers better begin discussing some alternative contingency plans...
I have only superficial knowledge about the Falkland's fisheries but I do know a bit about the UK fisheries. The N.E. Scottish fishing fleets are worried that they will be sold down the river as they were under Thatcher when the BREXIT negotiations get underway.
May 12th, 2017 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In order for the UK Govt. to get concessions on the Finance industry, they will be traded in as part of the deal.
If the SNP get a referendum and this leads to independence, they will want to get back in the EU. This means the common fishing policy and back to square one.
It could be even worse. The CFP wanted fishing up to the shore line which would wipe out the small local craft who operate small vessels close to their home base. They fish on a daily basis and return in the evening.
It does not surprise me that Argentina want to become involved. They are always sticking their nose in where it's none of their business.
Marcelo Kohen
May 12th, 2017 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Your desperate exhortation to persuade us to peruse http://www.malvinas-falklands.net/book/ is about as useful as is Hepatitis (from the manicomio) suggesting that the Falkland Islands will be Argentine within 25 years.
THERE IS NOT ONE WORD OF TRUTH EITHER FROM YOU OR FROM HEPATITIS.
Shitstirrer Tinkle. You will be very disappointed then!
May 12th, 2017 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +1England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
May 14th, 2017 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Hepatitis. As much chance as argieland becoming honest and trustworthy!
May 15th, 2017 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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