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Liberation Day Reception, London Gratitude for the Past, Hope for the Future
Falkland Islanders and their supporters met in London on the 13th of June for the annual Liberation Day Reception. This time it was special - it marked the 35th anniversary of the war. Guest of honour was Sir Alan Duncan, just re-appointed as Foreign Office Minister with responsibility for the Falklands; this was his first outside engagement. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA great event, much cherished by Falkland Islanders and their supporters. And a firm statement from Sir Alan; thank you Sir.
Jun 15th, 2017 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +2As a Falkland islander who is now Argentine, i think that some none truth has been spoken to the world and also a few fibs about the Falkland islands government and that of its corruption, that it dose not tell the rest of the world, but most of all its suppression of its people, to not speak out!! (i Will) so best of luck, three rules???? do not ask again (FIG). as i will tell the truth of the real Falkland islands of today!
Jun 15th, 2017 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Oooo...scandal don't keep us in suspenders....
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Jun 15th, 2017 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -4JFalkland
Jun 15th, 2017 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +6I doubt you're an Islander; your English is too poor and your Spanish is mostly BS. Who is afraid to speak out about anything in the Islands? Where's your evidence?
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Jun 15th, 2017 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -4jfalkland
Jun 15th, 2017 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +6“Falkland islands government and that of its corruption” Of which you can present no evidence. So all you’ve proved is that you’re a liar by failing to meet your burden.
En la capital de Ushuaia se volvió a escribir mi certificado de nacimiento. No, no era como aparentemente le gustaba que sus enunciados fueran simplemente eclosionados.
Jo Bloggs...
Jun 15th, 2017 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -7I wouldn't be so sure..., Squatter...
His Spanish is not bad at all... and very consistent with Kelper Spanish...
Then is the fact about he telling some truths about them windblown Islands that not many know about...
Anyhow...
I hope he continues (and s allowed) to write in here..., and gives us an insight about a side of Kelper society that has been so effectively supressed by your side...
Pip pip for now...
El Think...
I suppose Juan Falkland does not remember the Argentines, his countrymen, invading the peaceful civilian islands, trying to murder the 60 - odd Royal Marines in their sleep (fortunately, they were not in their beds), threatening and imprisoning the civilian inhabitants, and vandalizing and defecating in their homes.
Jun 15th, 2017 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +4It was a cowardly attack - cheered by millions of ordinary Argentines, praising the Junta.
There was no declaration of War.
That is the truth.
Think/ JFalkland
Jun 15th, 2017 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Do enlighten us and tell us who is being gagged. Give us all some evidence. Show us all how much you know. I'll just go and get another rum while you make something up...
Credibility check anyone?
;-)
Reminder to jfalkland that this is an English language site - mind you his English is not very good which is very surprising for a 'Falkland Islander who is now Argentine'.
Jun 15th, 2017 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +4One might almost THINK that he is a liar.
darragh
Jun 15th, 2017 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1... you may continue..., Jo...
Jun 15th, 2017 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Think
Jun 15th, 2017 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Thank you. New device with different settings.
darragh
Hats off to him for trying but his English simply is not up to it and wouldn't convince anyone.
I don't have a problem with him using Spanish if he struggles with English...
Jun 15th, 2017 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Not much meat in the accusations though....like to hear some specifics...
(tirantes was just a play on the word suspense..)
I believe that the argie commentor is confusing the islands themselves with a town in Bs As province called Malvinas Argentinas, where the residents are an artificially implanted population, the townsite having been usurped from the indigenous Guaraní owners in 1833.
Jun 15th, 2017 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Well....
Jun 15th, 2017 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -6Mr. Jfalkands may or may not have an explanation for his struggling with the Engrish language...
He may or may not want to tell us about it along with many other things...
Patagoia produces special characters... Malvinas is no exception...
We will have to wait and see.., I Think...
What do you mean by special characters Mr. Think...?
Jun 15th, 2017 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -4...as in touched...?
No..., not me...
Jun 16th, 2017 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse -5I am just you average humbe, soft spoken David Jones kind of Patagonian...
Tinkle is the sort of rabid mapache chubutense that one often wishes to drown in a puddle.
Jun 16th, 2017 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse +3England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Jun 16th, 2017 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse -8Well anyway, clearly JFalkland did no preparation whatsoever before attempting that embarrassing little diversion. Now, if I may I'd like to get back to the news item at the top of this tedious conversation.
Jun 16th, 2017 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse +4Thank you Sir Alan for coming to our reception and being so gracious with your words. I don't have the opportunity to attend may of these evenings but the ones I have been to have always been most moving. It is really very special to be able to mingle and reacquaint onseself with so many old friends and supporters Including so many military and political people who have all been and continue to be so loyal to our plight.
Thank you one and all for what you have done and continue to do. It is those efforts that make us even more determined that the Falkland Islands is strong and rich; it is our way of making sure you realise it is all worth it.
The contributions(?) of JFalkland are total absurdities. He is nothing more than a brainwashed Argentine troll masquerading as an expatriate islander. His English is “uneducated” and his Spanish is too good!
Jun 16th, 2017 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse +2No notice should be taken of his accusations!
The image of Voice in 'suspenders' is worrying. Other than that, this thread seems something of a non-entity.
Jun 16th, 2017 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse -1The do at Middle Inn Hall was good mind. Met some interesting folk - some islanders, fella who was a youngster in Argentina in 1982, an ex-governor and even Shackleton's grand-daughter. Champers is ok, just - could have done with some ale mind.
:-)
Oooh, a Falkland Islander who is now Argentine... who writes bad English, doesn't pick up on English wordplay, and prefers to write in Spanish? Hmmm.
Jun 16th, 2017 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse +2Think, there exists a Kelper Spanish to be consistent with? Wut?
And now his comments have been removed, presumably for being in Spanish. How annoying. Can anyone explain what he was talking about wrt birth certificates?
“¿Cuántas personas en las Malvinas son de nacimiento Argentiano, hay muchas, pero durante 1982 los certificados de nacimiento de los niños y los pasaportes misteriosamente se “perdieron”, es cierto o no?”
and
“La verdad es que he pedido la querstion en las Islas Malvinas como un isleño de Malvinas. ¿Somos una dictadura o una democracia? Las respuestas que recibí de muchos de los funcionarios de alto rango, incluyendo el Gobernador, lo siento, no puedo responder a la pregunta. Esta es la razón por la que ahora, el 16 de febrero de 2017 en la capital de Usuia mi certicado nacimiento fue re escrito.”
reusurpation day
Jun 16th, 2017 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -4MalMal
Jun 16th, 2017 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Liberation Day!!!
The anniversary of when 10,000 Argentines unconditionally (in all but name) surrendered to a much smaller force that was fighting 8,000 miles from their bases
The Argentine POWs then had to be shipped back to Argentina in British ships (mostly) where they were greeted by...no one.
@ Hello darragh, If you are so sure of your rights why do not the islanders open the dialogue with Argentina to go to the International Court of Justice or arbitration?
Jun 16th, 2017 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Verdict in favor of the UK and all happy.
DT: The Voice/Tink unit is talking to itself again and JFalkland may be another iteration of same.
Jun 16th, 2017 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +2JFalkland makes a lot of spelling errors in his writing of Spanish, with misuse of tenses. In his “nacimiento Argentiano,” he misspells “argentino” and even capitalises it, so it's doubly wrong. Actually, argies pretending to be Italian will sometimes write “Argentiano” but not with an initial cap. But the writing is the sort of thing that smacks of Voice/Tink unit invention and attempting to portray marginal literacy.
Re the first para you ask about, he's saying (or rather wholly inventing ): “ How many people in the Falklands are born in Argentina, there are many [nb: note that he misuses present tense here] , but in 1982 their children's birth certificates and [our] passports were mysteriously 'lost', true or false? ”
Whoever it is, the guy is lying. There was only a tiny puñado of argies in the islands prior to 1982. In 1980 there was about as many chilenos on the islands as argies. In the 1970s, only about two dozen of the residents of the islands were born in Argentina (the 1972 census shows just 27 resident persons of Argentine nationality). The 1953 census shows just one.
Malvinense 1833
Jun 16th, 2017 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The British position on the use of the ICJ has been a matter of public record.
“ Although we have no doubt about our sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia, South Sandwich or British Antarctic Territory, some of my right hon. and hon. friends have suggested that we refer the matter to the International Court of Justice. Since Argentina does not accept the compulsory jurisdiction of the court, the issue cannot be referred for a binding decision without her agreement. We have never sought a ruling on the Falkland Islands themselves from that court, but we have raised the question of the dependencies on three separate occasions—in 1947, 1949 and 1951. Each time Argentina refused to go to the court. In 1955, the British Government applied unilaterally to the International Court of Justice against encroachments on British sovereignty in the dependencies by Argentina. Again, the court advised that it could not pursue the matter since it could act only if there was agreement between the parties recognising the court's jurisdiction. In 1977, Argentina, having accepted the jurisdiction of an international court of arbitration on the Beagle Channel dispute with Chile, then refused to accept its results. It is difficult to believe in Argentina's good faith with that very recent example in mind. There is no reason, given the history of this question, for Britain, which has sovereignty and is claiming nothing more, to make the first move. It is Argentina that is making a claim. If Argentina wanted to refer it to the International Court, we would consider the possibility very seriously. But in the light of past events it would be hard to have confidence that Argentina would respect a judgement that it did not like.”
The Prime Minister (Mrs. Margaret Thatcher)
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1982/apr/29/falkland-islands
Mr. Think
Jun 16th, 2017 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A little misunderstanding there, I didn't mean you... I meant did you think he was a special character (touched/crazy)
Marti Llazo
What do you mean Voice...?
My Spanish consists of speaking English in a Spanish accent with por favor on the end of every sentence...
Works in Spain...;-)
DemonTree
Nothing like a bit of English wordplay to separate the chaff from the wheat...don't you think...;-)
@ML
Jun 16th, 2017 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That still makes no sense. The FI government would not have the birth certificate of someone born in Argentina to 'lose'. Perhaps he is talking about Argentines born in the Falklands? There must have been a few over the years. But then why did he get his birth certificate rewritten in Ushuaia?
I suppose he is unlikely to come back so we may never know.
@Malvinense 1833
Apart from the fact they would risk losing a lot for little-to-no gain, the Islanders cannot go to the ICJ on their own behalf since they are not a sovereign nation.
@Voice
Indeed. ;)
Nothing to discuss Malvinense 1833. The matter was settled way back in 1989.
Jun 16th, 2017 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Besides, Argentina was invited to the ICJ in 1968 and 1982 - but declined.
If any invitations are to be proferred, perhaps they should come from Argentina?
If there was such a thing as “Kelper Spanish” that would help classify the Islanders as a people.
Jun 17th, 2017 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +1So, rather like the pretend jfalkland, Think has not thunk his comments through either.
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