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Argentina: Nazi paraphernalia stash found in Buenos Aires suburb
Around 75 artifacts believed to have belonged to high-ranking nazi officers, which were stashed in a private collector's home in Beccar, a suburb of Buenos Aires, were found by Argentine police. The discovery is regarded to be further proof of the presence of Nazis in South America after World War II. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFurther proof? That makes it sound like it's not known for sure that Nazis fled to Argentina. WTF?
Jun 21st, 2017 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse +3Those items would probably bring a small fortune at auction!
Jun 21st, 2017 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse +3Irrefutable evidence...?
Jun 21st, 2017 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse -1He got them off EBay...
Ebay doesn't allow selling stuff with swastikas on other than stamps and similar, or selling anything belonging to high-ranking Nazis. I don't know how well that is enforced though.
Jun 21st, 2017 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse +2Is this collection illegal in Argentina or something?
DemonTree
Jun 21st, 2017 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse +2It's just listed as WW2 German collectibles or memorabilia...
No restrictions on Amazon...
...and dozens of online sites for this stuff...most of it reproduction I bet...
No doubt you will find collections in lots of countries...it's evidence of nothing but fanatics...
Has Mr Thinks stash been found?
Jun 21st, 2017 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse +3@Voice
Jun 21st, 2017 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse +1I don't fancy searching for Nazi memorabilia on ebay to find out what's available, particularly now that dear Theresa is spying on us all. But a collection like this must be a bit unusual, not the sort of things that become available every day. I guess they can find out if the guy got it anywhere legitimate anyway, the stories do seem to imply it's illegal to own in Argentina. I had thought it was only a few European countries that banned Nazi stuff.
It is well documented that after WW2 Nazi fled to South America. Argentina and Chile were favoured countries, though the list is long. In exchange for large amounts of money, jewels and other stash they were allowed to set up home pretty much undisturbed. Not surprisingly in Argentina, Bariloche was chosen for the scenery, not unlike Bavaria. Anyone who has visited both - I have - will recognise the similar architecture. In fact, walking down the main street in Bariloche could be any Alpine ski resort.
Jun 21st, 2017 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse +3There are many myths and legends even suggesting Hilter saw out his days in the area though these have been dismissed as nonsense. That Nazis lived out their lives in Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Brazil etc. is without dispute. The ratlines are well documented. You can even peruse some proof yourself in the Holocaust Museum in Buenos Aires as I did.
Similarly on the other side of the Andes in Chile there are some settlements with unsavoury Nazi origins.
There is no doubt.
I agree that South America was a chosen destination for Nazis...
Jun 21st, 2017 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1...but with Mossad on their trails with a view to possible kidnap these people tried to distance any association with their former lives...
Probably just a neo-nazis fanatic...
There's a lot of admiration for fascism in Argentina. Peron and Evita both publicly expressed that fascination. In fact, Peronism was based in large part on European fascism. And it shows.
Jun 21st, 2017 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +3This should make for a brand new museum somewhere in Argentina. Finders, keepers.
Jun 21st, 2017 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1What do the Argentine police propose to do with this collection?n
Jun 21st, 2017 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is collecting Third Reich memorabilia illegal in Argentina?
Perhaps the stash belongs to the modern Mr Goerbels alias Snr Think distorter of truth, keen on invasion subjagation and racial purification?
Jun 21st, 2017 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Voice,
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse +2“I agree that South America was a chosen destination for Nazis...
...but with Mossad on their trails with a view to possible kidnap these people tried to distance any association with their former lives... ”
We know that. The significance is that the Nazi's were already finding refuge in Argentina in 1945, and perhaps earlier, as they saw events unfold.
And why not, they knew they would be welcomed, especially if they could use some of their ill-gotten plunder from their Jewish victims to get in.
No Mossad at that time, no organised Jewish pursuit.
Argentina welcomed fascists and profited nicely from them at the time.
Neat arrangement.
Doubtless, they hunkered down later, but their hosts weren't rushing to expose tthem.
Wiki,
“History. Mossad was formed on December 13, 1949, as the Central Institute for Coordination at the recommendation of Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion to Reuven Shiloah. ... In March 1951, it was reorganized and made a part of the prime minister's office, reporting directly to the prime minister.”
Kanye
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse +4Germans with varying degrees of involvement in the Nazi regime relocated all over the world after the war. It is logical that South American nations with technical skills deficits would welcome highly educated immigrants. I doubt the people of those nations would have wanted criminals amongst those immigrants any more than we want criminals amongst the immigrants arriving in our nations.
Argentina certainly benefited from the expertise that German immigrants brought, but in what way did Argentina profit from receiving fascists/nazi criminals? I can think of none, but I am willing to be enlightened.
On the other hand, the “benefits” of German scientists (many of whom were members of the Nazi party or even had leadership roles in the Nazi party) snapped up by the Allies, particularly the US, are very tangible.
Are these illegal in Argentina? I saw a Hitler Youth dagger in an antique show in Kentucky last week.
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse +1MerryEnglander
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am speaking of monetary benefits received during and after the war.
“Argentine Files Show Huge Effort to Harbor Nazis”
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +4New York Times, Dec 14, 1993.
“Secret files reveal 9,000 Nazi war criminals fled to South America after WWII.... As many as 5,000 Nazis went to Argentina”
Daily Mail, March 2012
A museum would be the best destination for the collection, rather than private ownership by a few wealthy collectors and/or sympathizers.
Jun 22nd, 2017 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Send all the Nazi articles to a crusher if one exists in Argentina.
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A crusher...
Jun 23rd, 2017 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's also destroy all Christian symbols as well because millions have been killed through Christianity...
The Graphic design was far ahead of it's time and striking...it was an important progression and belongs in a museum not a crusher...
In a couple of hundred years it will be just another war that happened...
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