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Farewell parade for Falklands' outgoing governor; designate arrives in September
A farewell parade for the Falkland Islands outgoing governor, Mr Colin Roberts CVO, will be held on Sunday July 16, on Stanley's Victory Green and Ross Road, according to a release from Gilbert House, seat of the Falklands elected government. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAnother colonial Governor.
Jul 14th, 2017 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse -1TWIMC...
Jul 14th, 2017 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Lots of irrelevant info...., but not a hint about the reasons for his early “ replacement”...
There is nothing suspicious - the Governor's term is either three or four years. His Excellency has chosen to leave after three because his sons are getting tired of the Airbridge - they would rather have the same holiday opportunities as their schoolchums.
Jul 14th, 2017 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Who cares but you ?
Jul 14th, 2017 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I hear that Canada is about to get a new Governor-General too. Changes all around :-)
Jul 14th, 2017 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Thats right Mr. Lorton...
Jul 14th, 2017 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Engrish smoke & mirrors for the colonial squatters...
By no means must they know the truth..., even if it is inocuous...
The only 'colonial' governor is the self-appointed Ms. Bertone.
Jul 14th, 2017 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Fairwell Governor Roberts. We appreciated your efforts throughout your tenure and you'll be remembered fondly as will your family...except for Bonnie.
Jul 14th, 2017 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sacked. Admit it. Sacked for the mishandling of the FIH/FIC debacle and the massive security breach that is ongoing at MPA. Replaced by a currently serving Air Force officer (yes serving not ex but still serving since 2000) so that when it all hits the mainstream press Boris can say he's gripped it. I hope someone asks Colin straight up why he's off at the inevitable reception. Kids sick of the air ridge? Risible.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse -2A governor for a self governing territory, all begs the question, maybe he wouldn't go along, with the adolescent government, i wander how long the next one will last?
Jul 15th, 2017 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse +1@Jo Bloggs
Jul 15th, 2017 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can't just leave it there! Who is Bonnie?
And anyone know what DOD is on about?
a) What security breach?
b) If there was one, why would it be the Governor's responsibility rather than the military commander of the air base?
c)FIH is a publically listed company which anyone can buy shares in whether they are from Argentina or Timbucktoo. What is the Governor of the FIs supposed to do about it?
He wasn't sacked and the new one won't be a serving member of the armed forces. Prove either of those points wrong. Speculate all you want but don't forget to provide the evidence; something that always seems so important to you for the posts of others but not your own.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse +1Massive security breach at MPA, huh? It's not exactly the Pentagon out there, I'll grant you that, but please do explain. With factual evidence.
How's Dover going? Ever been there?
Cmdr. McDod...
Jul 15th, 2017 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The decay of the once mighty & manly Engrish Empire is sadly evident...
In the auld days..., Colonial Guvs' interned their offspring in some posh Engrish Boarding School...
Nowadays...,they say in Malvinas..., them Colonial Guvs' renounce their posts to please their brats...
Risible..., indeed...
Mr. DemonTree...
Bonnie is a molly...
Demon Tree
Jul 15th, 2017 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bonnie is the Roberts family dog; a Spaniel of some sort, but I'm no expert on those breeds. Nice she was, trained she was not.
DoD doesn't know what DoD is on about so don't expect anyone else to.
And the Canadians, Think?
Jul 15th, 2017 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Flogging a losing argument you play the man not the ball, that's what I dislike about you, Bloggsie.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1@Jo Bloggs
Jul 15th, 2017 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought it would be something like that, but now I am downright disturbed. I had a neighbour growing up who had a pet spaniel called Molly, we called them Molly-dogs for years. Is Think a mind-reader?
Still lolling at the 'mighty & manly Engrish Empire' though. So mighty! So manry!
@DoD
What argument? All I have seen is some cryptic claims which you haven't even explained, much less given any evidence for. There is no argument.
Cryptic claims. Very good. I'm sure that one will have the coders of the new air defence system chortling into their chicken broth and gagging on their cream cheese bagels.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Well anyway, while DoD/ Think is trying to scrape something out of the bottom of the barrel I'll get myself ready for yet another Colin Roberts farewell event. Been to three so far and they were nice occasions. The reception at GH last night was packed to the rafters; I can't recall a larger turnout in recent years. Even my secret shortcut route to the bar was packed with folk enjoying themselves. It was lovely to see so many former GH staff there also.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Cmdr. McDod..
Jul 15th, 2017 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -4A shmir kez begyl... huhhh?
While you're there see if you can get sight of the official passenger manifest for the 31Mar and 1 Apr private charter flights between BA and MPA. Then let us know how many of Sr Elsztain's business associates were on it, besides Sr Stanley that is (doffs cap to Sr Think). To adapt a phrase from the blessed St Margaret of Grantham, every governor needs a Willy but not an Argentian one. Colin had at least one so he just had to go.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Sorry to spoil your fun but they ain't private charters.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Hey Think, what was that molly thing all about?
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have fun, Jo!
FDO-MPN... to be precise...
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -2;-)
DT
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks. If only I could get Mrs. Bloggs to hurry up! I heard some radical feminist on the radio before saying that women can do anything men can do. Why can't they get ready in 10 minutes then if that's the case. ;-)
Mr. DemonTree...
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -2What do you Think that molly thing wss all about?
I just connect with them dogs...
Ask Cmdr. McDod...;-)
Jesus Christ. Now Mrs. Bloggs is asking me which outfit looks best. We're already late. Time for another rum and coke at this rate. LOL.
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Come on girl!
Drive carefully Jo...
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -2All that coke can make you to lose some concentration...
Mr. Think
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Are you just pretending to know what Dod is talking about, because I haven't the foggiest...
He certainly has a bee in his bonnet about something...
A nod is not as good as a wink if we don't know what the nod is about..
Mr. Voice...
Jul 15th, 2017 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -2I do Think..., I know what Dod is talking about...
@Jo Bloggs
Jul 15th, 2017 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +2I suppose women could get ready in 10 minutes if they didn't mind looking like men. That might not be what you want though?
@Voice
And there is no point asking. If DoD is not Think then he is just as pointlessly mysterious. I'm gonna assume it's all a load of bollocks until I have reason to think otherwise.
Voice, try doing a bit of personal research and see if you can link Willy Stanley (Anglo Argentinian banker visiting the Governor in Mar/Apr) with Sr Elsztain (FIH shareholder desirous of owning the whole company in Feb/Mar) with Sr Elsztain (the controlling party of a JV between an Argentinian industrial/financial group and Rafael Advanced Defence Systems right now) and RADS (a major party in the consortium that won the contract to replace the FI Air Defence System earlier this year).
Jul 16th, 2017 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse -2Then ask yourself how anyone (who didn't have a good particularly good working knowledge of the current state of the Island's Air Defence System) could possibly imagine sending a pair of helicopters to those Islands and not having them detected and intercepted.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4679614/Argentinian-generals-plant-flag-Falklands.html
Whose watch was all this on? Not Baz's that's for sure. Oh, and don't forget that the Rowland family, who were so pissed off with the way their own FIH bid was received that they flogged their holding in FIH off to another well connected family. Trouble is the Rowland family are well connected to the Royals and the Conservatives whereas the Zuckers are connected to Republicans and Isreal. No wonder we need an only-just ex RAF Governor to get this ridiculous situation sorted.
Cmdr. McDod....
Jul 16th, 2017 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse -3I luuuuv the above Freudian slip of yours...: “Isreal”
It was a Freudian slip... wasn't it...?
;-)
Farewell events number 5 and 6 coming up. I just hope the F1 finishes before I have to go.
Jul 16th, 2017 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Meanwhile I see Jack King is still alive and well.
Israel, Isreal... What's it matter so long as there's a homeland for God's Chosen People?
Jul 16th, 2017 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -3ɑː'mɛn
Jul 16th, 2017 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Think and Dover,
Jul 16th, 2017 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2As has been well explained on here and before- FI Governors serve usually between 3 and 4 yrs - exact time depends on several factors like when another post comes up they want apply for to further their career- and when someone else wants to apply for their job down here. Others are upcoming major- ie Royal/Senior Minister visits- you want the established
Gov who knows folks for those so these can delay a departure. And other personal factors - like Gov Roberts kids were changing schools in UK and parents wanted to spend more time and be nearer them,he was due to move on late June, then in May he became very ill and was medivacced to Santiago and later on to UK, and he is I suspect not fully recovered yet.
So nothing odd at all. Anything up at MPA is NOT his patch- that is why there is a military South Atlantic Forces Commander up there numpty! What Security breach anyway?
And the next Gov due to arrive Sept is NOT a serving RAF Officer!! He was - a military man - we have had them before - but now he is no longer and has not been for some time- doubt if he is even still on the reserves list.
Meanwhile we have a very pleasant friendly and competent Acting Governor with full powers.
@DoD,Think
Jul 16th, 2017 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely you meant to say those intrepid colonists squatting on Palestinian land?
Jupppp..., I surely meant those Spns of Sion in Palestine...
Jul 17th, 2017 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse -2England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Jul 17th, 2017 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse -1Hepatitis has transmogrified into a kipper in an effort to avoid being wiped out by Mercopress moderators.
Jul 17th, 2017 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse +1Clearly shows what a moron she is :-)))
Little shit Think is having a fine old time winding people up with his split personality, don't bite.
What's to discuss, Governors come and go, life in the Falkland Islands goes on.
Islander,
Jul 17th, 2017 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse -3He is still serving. See his CV. At his age he will go straight from the Active to the Retired List.
https:/www.linkedin.com/in/nigel-phillips-cbe-9742a846/?ppe=1
Have you tried reading the above thread and the Constitution? Do try it and you'll be better informed. Defence is a responsibility of the Governor, Baz is the executive.
Oh and excuses are like rectums. We all have them but no one wants to hear about other people's.
And I'm fairly sure you're the bigger numpty by some way.
Please stop dreaming that the Falklands will ever be Voldemortinian. The Voldy claim is unhistorical and bogus and only lives on because of 75 years of brainwashing. Voldie politics seem to bulit on threats, bullying and who-can-shouts-lies-the-loudest, and the Falklands have no wish to be part of it.
Jul 17th, 2017 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse -1As anticipated, no evidence was presented to support any of the mud slung here by the troll.
Jul 17th, 2017 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Farewell Governor Roberts. Wishing you a full and speedy recovery and we look forward to hearing from you again in the future.
@Jo Bloggs
Jul 17th, 2017 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It all sounds like conspiracy theory stuff to me, but what are these flights he is talking about? You said they weren't private charters, what were they then?
DT
Jul 17th, 2017 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1By his own admission he is only on here to stir shit. Like I said, a troll.
I think we were talking about two different sets of flights so I'd rather not say but Elzstain didn't come, nor did anyone associated with any of his businesses. Another banker came and went fishing and sightseeing for a day or two and half-heartedly tried to arrange some meetings with various political and private sector leaders but my information is that nothing actually eventuated. That's all I'm going to say.
The appropriately named Willy Stanley?
Jul 17th, 2017 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No.
Jul 18th, 2017 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse -1Jupppp...
Jul 18th, 2017 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guillermo Eduardo Stanley...
Willy for his friends...
Half hearted fishing trip?.... I'll say it was.
Jul 18th, 2017 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse -1Troll is the perjorative word of last resort used by the moral bankrupt when the truth overwhelms their flimsy fabrications. Another, nearly as bad, is conspiracy theorist. Unfortunately, to adapt a well known wry comment, just because I am one doesn't mean there isn't one. Conspiracy, that is. In this case it's to cover up an embarrassingly risky procurement decision exacerbated by financial and corporate greed that together was the biggest threat to British public interests in the colony since 1982 and the last military governor was installed there.
Is it fair to say that Think and I are almost as one on this, as previously expressed?
Cmdr. McDod..
Jul 18th, 2017 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse -1To say that You and I are almost as one on this is a bit too ambitious...
75%... I would risk...
BTW..., Willie doesn't fish...
You're the one on a half-hearted fishing trip. Where's your catch? There's nothing in your bag.
Jul 18th, 2017 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Keep it up.
What? Not even for a day and not even for the world famous mullet? What sort of English gent is he pretending to be? Was it for the opening day of the Upland Goose shooting season that he travelled in the newly acquired New Lines SA Bombardier perhaps? Or did he pop over for the day to ferry the Governor's kids for Easter hols - they do so hate the air bridge you know.
Jul 18th, 2017 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah well, all's well that ends well. Jo has clearly been asking the right questions around town so now everyone will be making up their own fairy tales to explain the flickering shadows cast by the cave fire as the colonial masters throw another imaginary troll onto the glowing embers of the latest conspiracy theory.
Hmmm, who should I believe? The man who lives on the spot or the one who's hundreds of miles away in a different country?
Jul 18th, 2017 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0But there is something I don't understand. Hasn't Argentina banned charter flights to the Falklands, including even the ones that used to take relatives of the fallen soldiers to visit? But they allowed some banker to fly there to try to drum up business? Conversely, why would political or private sector leaders in the Falklands be remotely interested in getting investment from any Argentine banker?
@DoD
Not my problem. If you don't like being called a conspiracy theorist, find some evidence.
But I don't mind being called a conspiracy theorist... nevertheless you can bring yourself rapidly up to speed on this conspiracy theory by reading these articles and the database:
Jul 18th, 2017 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2017/03/08/falklands-defense-renewal-with-israeli-sophisticated-equipment-triggers-controversy
http://en.mercopress.com/2017/03/08/falklands-defense-renewal-with-israeli-sophisticated-equipment-triggers-controversy
http://en.mercopress.com/2017/03/08/falklands-defense-renewal-with-israeli-sophisticated-equipment-triggers-controversy
http://en.mercopress.com/2017/03/08/falklands-defense-renewal-with-israeli-sophisticated-equipment-triggers-controversy
http://en.mercopress.com/2017/03/08/falklands-defense-renewal-with-israeli-sophisticated-equipment-triggers-controversy
Ask away if anything isn't clear.
Cmdr. McDod...
Jul 18th, 2017 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have been away too long...
There are whole new “House Rules”...
Only one active link allowed at the time...
But..., as Mr. DemonTree so gently learned us...
One can circumvent that by removing the “http://” prefix of subsequent links...:-)
Yes indeed, thanks for that but what kept you?. I'll admit that for one small moment after pressing the Post comment button I questioned my own technical competence. I've been sitting here for an hour waiting for someone to let me back in to put it to the test and somewhere along the line I lost the will to pander to the root vegetables among us.
Jul 18th, 2017 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sooooooooory.....Bwana Sahib...
Jul 18th, 2017 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Had things to do outside..., you know...
It has been quite chilly down here lately...
And them darn logs don't split themselves...
@DoD
Jul 18th, 2017 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -1You waited a whole hour and then didn't bother reposting the links? What's the point? But if they're all to Mercopress articles there's nothing new there anyway.
What I am looking for is eg evidence that the Governor of the FI is the one awarding military contracts to Israeli companies, because it seems highly unlikely that he has any input at all.
All you have at the moment are some unrelated events that you are vaguely implying have some connection, with the usual (zionist) suspects behind it all. Next you'll be telling us this Elsztain also owns a drug company and isn't it suspicious the plane left trails when it flew over the islands...
DT, You appear to be such a connoisseur of conspiracy theories that I'm inclined to respond.
Jul 18th, 2017 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think we can all agree that the UK government at a level round about the Minister for Defence Procurement level signed off on the purchase. It's probably fair to say that the FCO was consulted before approval and they in turn would have consulted GH even if only as a courtesy. That's not the issue though because no one can hold the Governor or the First Sec responsible up to this point.
Now, all of a sudden Mr Spotty Rowland's boys show an interest in taking over FIH/FIC. Mr Rowland Sr is a patriot and a donor to the Conservative Party with a particularly close relationship to certain members of the Royal Family. He also owns a private bank and knows a thing or two about offshoring. He's not a happy bunny when Sr Elsztain pops up to counter or hike the price to be paid.
Worse, he's not at all impressed when the Gov hosts that private jet and the international man of mystery/finance on it. That's 1 April and come the 14 April, Elsztain is told to back off, publicly. Someone has to take the walk to the door for the offence caused in Guernsey.
On top of all that, no one at GH, MPA, FCO or MOD seems to have noticed that Elsztain is quite so close to the chosen suppliers of the software for the ADS system, who as a result of the tendering process will already be well aware of the current ADS capabilities. Anyone check the electronics fit on board the B300 one off scheduled airliner with 8 seats and a fishing rod? Who gave it permission to land and consult widely anyway? Cue a mad plan to plant a flag somewhere out west, a Guv with stress disorder and kids who have developed a sudden loathing for the Diplomatic Service transport arrangements. Oh and a CIS trained RAF 1 star for a replacement.
You might say you couldn't make it up but as this is just a good old conspiracy theory, I obviously just did. Elsztain controls Elron and RDC by the way.
http://nocamel
Only the Argies can get so excited about change in Governors. Here they just come and go. Some are better than others, but in the end we just keep on rollin' on. GDP up to £150m, plenty of fish, tourism good, agriculture thriving, Argies nowhere near making any progress on their colonial aspirations. And soon it will be summer again...............
Jul 19th, 2017 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Dod
Jul 19th, 2017 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not really; I normally try to avoid conspiracy theorists because they are completely impervious to logic. But still, I have come across plenty of conspiracy theories that are a lot weirder than this one.
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the MOD handed out sensitive/classified details of the Falklands air defences to all the companies competing for contracts (why would this be necessary?), and then Rafael decided to pass these on to the chairman of an unrelated holding company which they happen to be involved in a joint venture with? If you are right then the government should be cancelling the contract immediately, not worrying about replacing the governor!
The part I want evidence for is the private flight, which I thought wasn't allowed in the first place, and which brought some banker who didn't achieve much. How did you hear about it?
Mr DemonTree...
Jul 19th, 2017 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
................. The part I want evidence for is the private flight, which I thought... etc..., etc..., etc...
I say...:
Would it suffice with the official flight manifest from the Argentinean National Administration for Civil Aviation (ANAC)..., with full crew and passenger list..., including their National Identity Document (DNI) numbers ...?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmr353rsK8M
Yes, thank you. I couldn't understand much but I can read the names. Also the presenter seems to agree with me that flights were supposed to be banned; he has quite a different conspiracy theory to DoD.
Jul 19th, 2017 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Google suggests the Britos are also bankers. Do you know who the other names are?
Mr. DemonTree...
Jul 19th, 2017 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also the presenter...................... has quite a different conspiracy theory to DoD..., you say...
No wonder, I say..., the presenter is an Argie Nationalist... Cmdr. McDod is a Scottish Imperialist...
Another 19th-century English colonial governor soon to wear that fancy hat with white rooster feathers.
Jul 20th, 2017 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse -1@Think
Jul 20th, 2017 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the presenter is an Argie Nationalist”
Yes, I can tell. 'Piratas', 'ladrones', 'argentinos bien nacidos'... is that how TV presenters talk in Argentina? It's like Daily Mail TV.
@Marcos
What have you got against feathers, huh? Don't you know you're supposed to respect daft cultural traditions?
So, they are the sons of Britto (mainly). Someone told them the islanders were happy to be citizens in a Britto Overseas Territory perhaps (Brits to Britos is such a tiny step they might not even notice)? Or were they over there to support Willy as he interviewed for the soon to be vacant Governors job?
Jul 20th, 2017 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -3http://www.jorgehoraciobrito.com/english/jorge-brito-biography/
DT
Yep, that's how it works but it doesn't have to be a corporate act, just an understanding
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