Argentina’s top prosecutor quit on Monday under pressure from the government over accusations that she hampered corruption investigations into officials from the previous administration of President Cristina Fernandez. Read full article
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If the Nisman smears were raked up, de Vido jailed pre-trial jailed, Cristina accused without proof of corruption at just the time Macri was implicated in the Panama Papers, all on the watch of a Cristina crony who technocratic Macri was politically campaigning to fire, thenOct 31st, 2017 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse -4
1) I call bullshit, frankly - she either wasn't a K if she did all that or wasn't in charge anyay if it happened against her will, but also
2) How bad is it going to get now?! Clearly Macri wants a politicised legal system to lock up his opponents for disagreeing with him. Imagine if Mme Cristina had done the same with just 1 of the 300 or so corruption cases against him, he wouldn't have been able to stand. So finally
3) If he's going to these lengths to discredit and perhaps judicially bar la flor mas bella, he must be more worried about her candidacy in 2019 and leadership of the opposition than his fanboys on here. Those of us who love freedom and justice should rally to it, internationally against this witch hunt
Oops, I upvoted Brit-K comment in error and clearly you live in an alternative universe - a common ailment with all things K.Oct 31st, 2017 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse +2
CFK did more to politicise the legal system than any Arg president has ever done and having an ultra K activist as attorney general was anathema to the current administration.
I shouldn't think Macri is now the slightest bit worried about 2019. She may have the immunity she so desperately craved, but she will eventually end up in the same position as De Vido and quite correctly so.
No shit Sherlock, has she booked a holiday to the Seychelles?Oct 31st, 2017 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@BritKernerist: .....la flor mas bella...Oct 31st, 2017 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
ja ja ja
la bosta más podrida...
OK Marc with an ultra-K activist prosecutor how come de Vido is in jail and Cristina is being prosecuted for treason?! If you think that's ultra-K how far do you want to go...Oct 31st, 2017 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
That's right.... ultra-K activism is murdering inconvenient prosecutors and then massively contaminating the crime scene.Oct 31st, 2017 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
You need an Argentine version of this: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjVg6f15KLXAhVLyoMKHTrZDQYQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwonkville.net%2Fauthor%2Fanonymous-wonker%2F&psig=AOvVaw3X9dLyCDWSEcNL5OG0R_w3&ust=1509811468836947Nov 03rd, 2017 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@ZBNov 04th, 2017 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
As you pointed out elsewhere, time to play Argentine Indictment Bingo!
Why, of course Macri needs a loyal judiciary and Alejandra Gils Carbó was an obstacle. The Argentine president has been trying to find ways to remove her since the beginning of his term, and the pressures mounted with threats of judicial prosecution.Nov 04th, 2017 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
One more chapter in Cambiemos' plan to take Argentina back to the 19th Century.
imoyaro you could have played that in Stalin's Russia, too. Btw if Milagro Sala's indictment is still pending why's she bee in jail for over a year already?Nov 04th, 2017 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
Enrique exactly right, and with activist judges like Bonadio he'd managed quite a witch-hunt already with an opposition activist chief prosecutor. But McCarthyite/Stalonsit types like imo can't wait for it to become an all out purge...
BK: Btw if Milagro Sala's indictment is still pending why's she bee in jail for over a year already?Nov 04th, 2017 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
Because she was guilty, convicted, sentenced to three years in prison, and the conviction was upheld.
So she shouldn't be on a will they even be indicted? bingo then. A general persecution one, perhaps...Nov 04th, 2017 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
You have to admit, Argentina is one fucked up country.Nov 04th, 2017 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
It is now, very much so, under Macri. Such a tragedy as it was doing so well for a time with the best President in the worldNov 04th, 2017 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
Yes, BK, being in default, 38 percent annual inflation, crumbling infrastructure, and massive corruption must be your notion of it was doing so well.Nov 05th, 2017 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse +1
BK: “Btw if Milagro Sala's indictment is still pending why's she bee in jail for over a year already?”Nov 05th, 2017 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse +2
Because she was guilty, convicted, sentenced to three years in prison, and the conviction was upheld.
Prison terms of three years or less are always suspended in Argentina, no? Sala is in jail because they claim she's a flight risk, that's why the UN, IACHR, Amnesty International etc are up in arms about it.
Sala's sentence and incarceration included conditional house arrest. She violated the conditions of that and the court of appeals ordered her return to jail.Nov 05th, 2017 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
DT and BK made excellent points about the inconsistencies of keeping Milagro Sala in prison, which has been decried by international organizations but ignored by president Macri.Nov 05th, 2017 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
The background issue here is a big experiment - one that will have long term repercussions not only for Argentina but for many other developing countries.
What Mauricio Macri is attempting is a rollback of most social and economic advances that Argentina achieved since the 1983 return to democracy.
This would be a first. In the past, similarly regressive projects were implemented through coup d'etats that suppressed individual freedoms and detained, tortured and killed those daring to resist.
Macri's challenge is to achieve the concentration of the national income in a few wealthier individuals or corporations while drastically reducing that of the working class, the retirees and other vulnerable sectors of the population while saddling the country to an unpayable 100-year foreign debt.
Could such a plan be achieved with all the democratic mechanisms in place? Not in Argentina, where a tradition of popular resistance against regressive projects has long existed.
That is why now that Macri, judging the last election results as a blank cheque, he needs to intimidate the opposition. He has Milagro Sala in jail for indefinite time and Santiago Maldonado dead as a warning to any popular form of resistance. He has Amado Boudou in jail as a warning to any other politician in opposition, including CFK. As he goes, Macri gauges society's response to this repressive progression, and decides whether to go further - or backtrack when necessary.
I would be tempted to say, what an interesting process to watch - but it's not. The suffering of too many is at play.
@MLNov 05th, 2017 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
If she's serving a sentence why does Clarin call it 'prisión preventiva'?
She's in jail awaiting trial, and has been for a long time, and now Boudou is too. According to the press she was sent back to jail because she refused to go to hospital for a medical checkup, and there was something about wanting her lawyer. The real question is why both are in jail at all and not out on bail.
Sala is being charged with several crimes, and has been convicted on at least one of them. Preventive detention is common enough for those previously convicted and liable to continue committing crimes (as in Sala) or likely to interfere with ongoing prosecution (as is Sala, now likely to be charged with the equivalent of threatening witnesses).Nov 05th, 2017 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
There have already been criminal attacks on those judges and prosecutors involved in prosecuting Kirchnerists, so far none as successful as the murder of Nisman.
Yes, she's not in jail for the crime she was convicted of, she's not in jail for the crime she was arrested for, she's in jail for yet another accusation. The main reason seems to be that she has pissed off the governor of Jujuy, and Macri doesn't want to cross him by overruling this.Nov 06th, 2017 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
What are these criminal attacks?
BK you are obviously not Argentinian if you think that your beloved CFK was the best President in the world. You really ought to educate yourself as you have your head up your arse.Nov 06th, 2017 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Golfcronie, BK's head is so far up his arse his ears are plugged with K shite, so you are talking to a deaf man with deranged views on how to drag Argentina, a country rich in both human and natural resources, which has been abused by the P's and K's for decades. My wife's mother still remembers her mother telling her about candy and shoes that Evita passed out one time decades ago. Argentina, kicking and screaming is some cases is entering the 21st century. If anyone would drag the country back it would be the P's and K's with their absolute failed economic model and international theft of services through defaulting on sovereign debt.Nov 06th, 2017 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
And in the news here, yet another kirchnerist heavy is convicted: Luis D'Elía. Sentenced to 4 years on at least 5 criminal counts.Nov 06th, 2017 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
So many kirchnerist criminals, so many crimes. Will there be jails enough?
you are obviously not Argentinian if you think that your beloved CFK was the best President in the worldNov 07th, 2017 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
Why, because no Argie would have the pride in their country to make such a claim for their own local girl done good ;) I'm glad you have such confidence in the modesty of the Argentine people, not everyone on here does ;)
Must be why the latest public opinion survey here seems to show about a 57 percent negative response for CFK.Nov 07th, 2017 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
A separate poll here in September (OPSM, for Bs As province) on the question: Como balance general del legado que deja la etapa de gobierno de Cristina Kirchner ¿Cuál es su opinión? and for that one we see 64.1 percent negative.
If this is support for girl done good then imagine what the numbers will be when the great unwashed finally see their cooked thief for what she is.
the great unwashedNov 08th, 2017 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The mask slips. Wait till the masses see Macri and his fanboys like you for what you are and what you really think of them. Then the right wing media and partisan judicial attacks on Cristina won't be enough to win support for austerity-max and attacks on human rights. Those figures aren't actually too bad given the number and extremity of the attacks; when some of them unravel they could easily rebound to a positive majority. Then Argentina may have the best President in the world again, inspiring activists even here in Britain
Somebody hasn't noticed that Kirchnerism has been rather precipitously sinking in support in this country, and will soon be permanently consigned to the dustbin of history.Nov 08th, 2017 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
But then, I understand that Trotsky still has a number of ardent followers among UK's perennial leftists, convinced that despite his minor injuries, that he will soon return to inspire activists.... even in Britain.
He's dead, so there's that difference. But you do seem to put an icepick in Cristina...Nov 08th, 2017 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
I'm sure Marti would love to put an icepick in Cristina...Nov 08th, 2017 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
Marti would like to explain that it was not an icepick but an ice axe.Nov 08th, 2017 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
Al pan, pan; al vino, vino.
Of course that's the part you care about.Nov 08th, 2017 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
Which do you want to put in Cristina?