Pope Francis urged Chile’s indigenous Mapuche people on Wednesday to shun violence, saying unity was the best weapon against “the deforestation of hope,” as they struggle to defend their culture and reclaim ancestral lands. Read full article
And he also cited Violeta...:
Arauco tiene una pena, que no la puedo callar...
Son injusticias de siglos..., que todos ven aplicar... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKahbtH30AY
Why people tend to ignore history and replace it for romantic legends?
Thousands of pioneers, and thousands of captive women and children reduced to slavery always forgotten. It is sad to see how much racial hatred is still alive in South America.
What do you mean out of hand..., hermanito Winka y Shileno....
We are winning biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig time...
15 to 2 in our favour in Chile...
3 to 0 in our favour in Argentina...
Those indios pata sucia haven't got a chance...
Pope Francisco's speech was great, and he quoted Violeta Parra in beautiful tone. He did call for peaceful means, however he spoke much more of injustice. Of course, hypocrites will willingly recreate a Holliwood movie of cowboys and Indians to dilute the central issue, that is the marginality of the First Nations in the Americas.
16.000.000 dollars spend in thousands of policemen and women to protect the Holy Father... and it all ends with the auld Argentino QL having to assist the police... ;-)
Ah the poor Mapuches! Those in power positions know the drill perfectly:
When a group is marginalized and all the avenues are closed, some individuals may be tempted to use violent means to change their situation.
When that happens, those in positions of power throw up their hands in horror, begin to deplore the violence they created, and use the violence argument to dismiss the entire argument of the oppressed.
It is so much so that, if the oppressed do not resort to any violence, individuals will be sent to infiltrate a popular movement to create incidents, as recently shown in Argentina's peaceful demonstrations marred by the violence of small groups and massive security forces repression.
Pope Francisco's speech was great, Populist speeches have always been great but, sadly, reality shows their true nature. See the fate of the First Nations in catholic countries.
Of course, hypocrites will willingly recreate a sort of new Ganghi but, they would have noticed that the populist governments have always forced and kept First Nations to poverty. Even the United Nations warned CFK about the regular abuses they suffered during her presidency.
Anyway, in Argentina one over three citizens are below poverty line. And this affects all of argentine people no matter the race. This is the sad result of decades of peronist governments. During Raul Alfonsin presidency the percentage of poverty was 9% (1982-1987) but when CFK it was 30% (2015)....
Brilliant speech from Francis and good advice - though the violence if any is not what it is hyped to be by the pro-Macri press, the Argie version of the Murdoch gutter operation.
Last year, Chilean President Michelle Bachelet asked for forgiveness from the Mapuche community for such “errors and horrors.” Her government accelerated a land transfer program that gives property titles to indigenous communities, and launched initiatives to improve infrastructure and access to drinking water in remote areas
Very good from a President I've always admired, despite the severe limitations of the system she's had to operate in. Unfortunately the Chilean state has always taken a worse line on the ground, and now with Pinera coming in the worry is that he'll give the worst elements a green light as has Macri
pgerman Thousands of pioneers, and thousands of captive women and children reduced to slavery always forgotten. It is sad to see how much racial hatred is still “alive” in South America
You're right, but don't you admit that your man Macri is making every matter worse, and that's a more serious problem with your Cambiembos than Vidal being Catholic?
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Jan 18th, 2018 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1And he also cited Violeta...:
Arauco tiene una pena, que no la puedo callar...
Son injusticias de siglos..., que todos ven aplicar...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKahbtH30AY
Grande..., Pancho!
THINK
Jan 18th, 2018 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a hermosa canción, but the violence has gotten way out of hand.
Why people tend to ignore history and replace it for romantic legends?
Jan 18th, 2018 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Thousands of pioneers, and thousands of captive women and children reduced to slavery always forgotten. It is sad to see how much racial hatred is still alive in South America.
What do you mean out of hand..., hermanito Winka y Shileno....
Jan 18th, 2018 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -2We are winning biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig time...
15 to 2 in our favour in Chile...
3 to 0 in our favour in Argentina...
Those indios pata sucia haven't got a chance...
pgerman
Jan 18th, 2018 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because it is easier to live with
Pope Francisco's speech was great, and he quoted Violeta Parra in beautiful tone. He did call for peaceful means, however he spoke much more of injustice. Of course, hypocrites will willingly recreate a Holliwood movie of cowboys and Indians to dilute the central issue, that is the marginality of the First Nations in the Americas.
Jan 18th, 2018 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +2To all my hermanitos Shilenos...
Jan 18th, 2018 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -116.000.000 dollars spend in thousands of policemen and women to protect the Holy Father... and it all ends with the auld Argentino QL having to assist the police... ;-)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CBFptmsTydQ
@Chicu
Jan 19th, 2018 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse +1...the violence has gotten way out of hand.
Ah the poor Mapuches! Those in power positions know the drill perfectly:
When a group is marginalized and all the avenues are closed, some individuals may be tempted to use violent means to change their situation.
When that happens, those in positions of power throw up their hands in horror, begin to deplore the violence they created, and use the violence argument to dismiss the entire argument of the oppressed.
It is so much so that, if the oppressed do not resort to any violence, individuals will be sent to infiltrate a popular movement to create incidents, as recently shown in Argentina's peaceful demonstrations marred by the violence of small groups and massive security forces repression.
By the way..., hermanito Shileno...
Jan 19th, 2018 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0The violence has gotten way out of hand.” you say...
What happened with your Jefferson's favourite quote..., you know..., the one that goes...:
The Aliwen of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Good enough for Venezuelan blue eyed Rambos...,but not for indios pata sucia..., I reckon...
@Enrique Massot
Jan 19th, 2018 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pope Francisco's speech was great, Populist speeches have always been great but, sadly, reality shows their true nature. See the fate of the First Nations in catholic countries.
Of course, hypocrites will willingly recreate a sort of new Ganghi but, they would have noticed that the populist governments have always forced and kept First Nations to poverty. Even the United Nations warned CFK about the regular abuses they suffered during her presidency.
Anyway, in Argentina one over three citizens are below poverty line. And this affects all of argentine people no matter the race. This is the sad result of decades of peronist governments. During Raul Alfonsin presidency the percentage of poverty was 9% (1982-1987) but when CFK it was 30% (2015)....
@Think
Jan 19th, 2018 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Nice.
Brilliant speech from Francis and good advice - though the violence if any is not what it is hyped to be by the pro-Macri press, the Argie version of the Murdoch gutter operation.
Jan 21st, 2018 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse +1Last year, Chilean President Michelle Bachelet asked for forgiveness from the Mapuche community for such “errors and horrors.” Her government accelerated a land transfer program that gives property titles to indigenous communities, and launched initiatives to improve infrastructure and access to drinking water in remote areas
Very good from a President I've always admired, despite the severe limitations of the system she's had to operate in. Unfortunately the Chilean state has always taken a worse line on the ground, and now with Pinera coming in the worry is that he'll give the worst elements a green light as has Macri
pgerman Thousands of pioneers, and thousands of captive women and children reduced to slavery always forgotten. It is sad to see how much racial hatred is still “alive” in South America
You're right, but don't you admit that your man Macri is making every matter worse, and that's a more serious problem with your Cambiembos than Vidal being Catholic?
F**k em, go back to your teepees and live with it, the same as the FALKLANDERS had to do when Argentina took over their houses and properties
Jan 21st, 2018 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Commenting for this story is now closed.
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