Venezuela has expelled the Spanish ambassador to Caracas, Jesús Silva Fernández, accusing him of interfering in its internal affairs. Spain has rejected the allegations and said it would reciprocate. Read full article
Maduro expects his country to be treated with inclusivity in Mercosur, and UNASUR. Yet does not behave with respect towards the integrity of the union.
Hey Patrick, you changed the subject again on the other thread. You were supposed to be telling me what is so great about Spain that the UK should be copying.
Was it interfering with Venezuela's sovereign government as Maduro accuses above, or do you think the British government should have sent the police in to beat up people voting in the Scottish referendum like Spain did in Catalonia?
You didn't tell me anything clear enough for me to understand. You think Spain is better than Britain some way? But how? According to Maduro, Spain is interfering with his country by creating sanctions etc, isn't that what you accused Britain of doing?
I can't find where I wrote that now @DemonT, But... I believe i did articulate it differently than how you are saying I said it. I never said Spain is better. I recall writing something to the effect of Spain being graced in that it had hit rock bottom and thus was able to rise or rebuild its rapport with the world the right way (meaning not invasively using other countries) and that Britain would have to make a monumental effort if it wanted to achieve the same (quality of friendship with nations). ... And that is a very spiritual take on world involvements and relationships, because what it means is that Britain would have to as we say in the States Take the high road, Be Big about it or Do the right thing, and retreat from having so much control, capital and influence inside other countries.
I'm not sure that Spanish people would agree it was a good thing they hit rock bottom, Spain was very poor during the Franco era when they were closed off form the world, and of course was not a democracy. But regardless, I'm not convinced there is much difference. Does Spain have a better relationship with it's ex-colonies or with other countries than Britain? This article would suggest not.
Yeah, I didn't mean exactly that, but that I don't know how many Spanish people would think it was worth the poverty to have a better rapport with the world.
If they have. I don't know much about Spain's relationship with its ex-colonies. Do they have an organisation similar to the Commonwealth?
What I think is that a lot of people only behave well because they know they can't get away with it lying, cheating and stealing, and it's the same with countries, except that they mostly CAN get away with behaving badly.
There are a few people who wouldn't do this, and some countries likewise behave better than others. Plus some have less need for land/raw materials/whatever as they have plenty already, but there is no part of the world that hasn't suffered wars except for Antarctica. So far.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMaduro expects his country to be treated with inclusivity in Mercosur, and UNASUR. Yet does not behave with respect towards the integrity of the union.
Jan 27th, 2018 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Patrick, you changed the subject again on the other thread. You were supposed to be telling me what is so great about Spain that the UK should be copying.
Jan 28th, 2018 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was it interfering with Venezuela's sovereign government as Maduro accuses above, or do you think the British government should have sent the police in to beat up people voting in the Scottish referendum like Spain did in Catalonia?
I wrote everything you need to understand what I said. Go back and figure it out.
Jan 28th, 2018 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know what you mean in that second part you wrote. Sorry
No you didn't. You said the UK couldn't act like Spain has done. I asked you why we would want to. What's so great about Spain?
Jan 28th, 2018 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I told you, I did. You need to read it again more carefully then
Jan 29th, 2018 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You didn't tell me anything clear enough for me to understand. You think Spain is better than Britain some way? But how? According to Maduro, Spain is interfering with his country by creating sanctions etc, isn't that what you accused Britain of doing?
Jan 29th, 2018 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't find where I wrote that now @DemonT, But... I believe i did articulate it differently than how you are saying I said it. I never said Spain is better. I recall writing something to the effect of Spain being graced in that it had hit rock bottom and thus was able to rise or rebuild its rapport with the world the right way (meaning not invasively using other countries) and that Britain would have to make a monumental effort if it wanted to achieve the same (quality of friendship with nations). ... And that is a very spiritual take on world involvements and relationships, because what it means is that Britain would have to as we say in the States Take the high road, Be Big about it or Do the right thing, and retreat from having so much control, capital and influence inside other countries.
Jan 29th, 2018 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sure that Spanish people would agree it was a good thing they hit rock bottom, Spain was very poor during the Franco era when they were closed off form the world, and of course was not a democracy. But regardless, I'm not convinced there is much difference. Does Spain have a better relationship with it's ex-colonies or with other countries than Britain? This article would suggest not.
Jan 30th, 2018 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said that BECAUSE they hit rock bottom, they were able to..... Not that it was a good thing they hit rock bottom !
Jan 30th, 2018 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, I didn't mean exactly that, but that I don't know how many Spanish people would think it was worth the poverty to have a better rapport with the world.
Jan 30th, 2018 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they have. I don't know much about Spain's relationship with its ex-colonies. Do they have an organisation similar to the Commonwealth?
What I think is that a lot of people only behave well because they know they can't get away with it lying, cheating and stealing, and it's the same with countries, except that they mostly CAN get away with behaving badly.
There are a few people who wouldn't do this, and some countries likewise behave better than others. Plus some have less need for land/raw materials/whatever as they have plenty already, but there is no part of the world that hasn't suffered wars except for Antarctica. So far.
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