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Gibraltar cannot be the whipping boy of Brexit Garcia tells EU

Wednesday, January 31st 2018 - 20:00 UTC
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In an address to a Brussels think tank, the (Germany's Liberal Party) Friedrich Naumann Foundation, the Deputy Chief Minister Dr Joseph Garcia has declared that it would be manifestly unfair to use Gibraltar as a whipping boy who was made to suffer the consequences of Europe‘s wider disagreements with the United Kingdom. Read full article


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  • Patrick Edgar

    Territorial domination is just such a problem with Britain, isn't it -
    It seems to be one of the countries with the most complicated territorial demands on planet, among other things. - I simply don't understand what reason does it have to be so different this way to other countries.

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • BrianFI

    Gibraltar is not Spain, it is Gibraltar.

    People, don't give Patrick the time of day, he isn't even Argentine. He is an American that was living in Hawaii and is pretending to be Argentine. He recently tried to move to Argentina but was deported having failed to get a work permit. He has numerous convictions for drug use and related crimes and this has clearly addled his mind, that is why he rambles on like a madman

    The only reason he is on here is because he was banned from Facebook for making homophobic comments.

    How do I know this? He used to be an active member on some Falkland pages until he was banned for being homophobic, this is all public knowledge.

    Please ignore him. He's just a bitter Brit hating loner with no country or identity, desperatly wanting attention

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    But it isn't Spain. It stopped being Spanish 100 years before Argentina did. Give your own country back if you're so sad for poor, innocent Spain.

    PS. Britain is not so different to other countries. Look up Mayotte some time. Hell, look up Ceuta and Melilla too. Look up the history of East Timor. Compare to Tibet, which is just China according to China. Infórmate.

    Jan 31st, 2018 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Patrick Edgar

    It's a war trophy Britain took from Spain DT. A bloody rock beautifully making a metaphor of Britain's avarice for power against the countries of the world, as it was so small for the military base they wanted it for, that it had to build up an airstrip on reclaimed ground out of the ocean slashing the peninsula like a cross for crying out loud ! Britain furthers unnaturalness like no other country in modern history. It wants to dominate everything and has a calculating method or mechanism for each goal it wants to achieve.
    Later Gibraltar became a symbol of Britain's lack of solidarity and transparency with the EU. exemplifying immediately its self-serving agenda. They had plenty of time to make a friendship gesture of Unity and give this war trophy back to Spain or the EU. Instead it continued to bully the world about its extra-nation ambitions, instead of focusing on peace, which is what we all want in the world. Iraq, Palestine, Gibraltar, Malvinas, Afghanistan... I mean, if there is such as thing as “karma” Britain's neck hairs must be standing up right at this point. Every other colonial power has come to terms with the reality of a world of single nations except Britain, for example it continues to bully and manipulate through the media and government by demeaning and trying to politically influence and steer Argentina quietly behind the scenes about its economic system, its political policies, its internal affairs, the South Atlantic, and far away Antarctica. It is simply a PIG seeing at the South Atlantic and South America as its food supply for the future, as if it was the only country that mattered, and the rest of us have to yield to what ever it wants. The US! hasn't got the disgusting attitude towards the world Britain has! Difference is that Britain's very astute, seeding problems and confrontations, then lets America look like the bully. (Lexignton, OK?) It's like the little alien living inside the human monsters in Men in Black ! LoL

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Brit Bob

    Prior to joining the EU, Spain recognized that the borders in Europe can only be changed ''by consent”.

    1st August 1975, Spain gives Gibraltar away again,
    Gibraltar – Helsinki Accord 1975 (1 pg)

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Clyde15


    In overdrive rant mode today I see pretending to be the moral conscience of the world while peddling your own drivel as facts.

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • DemonTree

    “The US! hasn't got the disgusting attitude towards the world Britain has! Difference is that Britain's very astute, seeding problems and confrontations, then lets America look like the bully.”

    How convenient, finding a nice scapegoat so you don't have to admit that YOUR country has done bad things. You're totally in denial, Patrick, inventing your own facts because you can't handle the truth. Everyone knows it's the US who is the Empire now, interfering in other countries' affairs and spreading their own political philosophy.

    By the way, Blair's government did try to make a deal with Spain in the 90's, but they abandoned it because the Gibraltarians objected so strongly.

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Patrick Edgar

    I wasnt talking about Spain, I was talking about Britain.

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    Patrick, I know you won't look it up, but this shows exactly how unique Britain isn't:

    ”Mayotte fue cedida a Francia junto con el resto de las Comoras en 1843. Fue la única isla del archipiélago que votó en referéndum por mantener sus vínculos con Francia (en 1974 y nuevamente en 1976, con el 63,8 % y 99,4 % respectivamente). Las Comoras continúan reclamando la isla, y una resolución del Consejo de Seguridad de la ONU de 1976, respaldada por 11 de los 15 miembros, hubiese reconocido la soberanía de Comoras sobre Mayotte de no ser por el veto francés (volviéndose a presentar el mismo caso en 2004).
    La situación de Mayotte ha sido difícil para Francia: mientras la mayoría de la población local no desea la independencia o la unión con el resto de las Comores, la crítica internacional es fuerte respecto a los lazos existentes entre Mayotte y Francia.”

    Feb 01st, 2018 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • JC68

    The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a British government propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?

    Feb 06th, 2018 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Clyde15


    You have been told the answer to this several times under your various BOT aliases, but you need a functioning brain, which is sadly lacking in your case,to process this information

    Feb 06th, 2018 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • darragh


    You do know that a JC68 is a kettle don't you?

    It'll come in handy for boiling your head in.

    Feb 07th, 2018 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Patrick Edgar

    Put it on the shelf next to James Cook's skull

    Feb 08th, 2018 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Did you read the article about Mayotte, Patrick? I looked up the UN vote where France used their veto power to block a motion by the Comoros that would have forced them to respect the Comoros's territorial integrity and leave Mayotte. Only France voted against it, but three countries on the Security Council abstained: the US, UK, and Italy (I guess we have something in common there). The island is still part of France today, and the Comoros still claims it, much like Argentina with the Falklands.

    Feb 08th, 2018 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lynn

    The question is why is this piece appearing in Mercopenguin, a British government propaganda organ supposedly devoted to America, South America and the “South Atlantic”?

    Feb 09th, 2018 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Clyde15


    It is pointless trying to reason with PE. He will only accept anything that can be used to further his twisted logic and confirm that the UK is the Great Satan of modern times.

    He is obviously a troubled individual who probably can only exist in the confines of the web...anonymously . He could not survive a face-to-face discussion in a reasoned debate.
    With his attitude, someone would “banjo” him !

    To paraphrase Miss Piggy :-

    (Beauty)---- Rational thought is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye.”

    Feb 09th, 2018 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Tsk, you'll just make him even more convinced we have a violent culture. ;)

    I'm sure you're right, although as to being anonymous, he is the only one of the three of us who is using his real name. But I get the impression he is more interested in having an audience for his 2000 character rants than any kind of dialogue, and it's so much easier for him if his audience responds with insults; that way he can complain he's being victimised and doesn't have to bother with inconvenient things like facts.

    Feb 09th, 2018 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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