… .and, the cars batteries will be linked to the grid. Stick to your close relatives bones Twinkle. Tune in to BBC4 radio Any Questions next Friday, its from Dunoon!
***All new cars will be electric charged by solar in 2030***..., the Anglo Turnip above keeps telling us...
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure...
As Brexit will be a success by 2030... (Chuckle..., chuckle)
Or the Falkland/Malvinas will be producing oil by 2030... (Rechuckle)
By the way............................What is it the above article is telling us about oil...?...:
*** Forget oil and gas...; the future of energy belongs to Lithium. ***..., that's what...
The logical question to them squatting Kelpers would be...: Do ya've any Lithium..., boys...?
Good for MP for publishing a detailed story on the electric car.
Indeed, just the health benefits of eradicating fossil fuel vehicles from the streets of cities would probably be sufficient incentive for governments to accelerate the transition to EV vehicles.
Harnessing the power from the sun, the wind and other renewable sources will add up to reducing carbon emissions, helping reduce harm to our planet.
Of course, nothing is free and as the story above points out, the challenge will remain the extraction of lithium in reasonable conditions -- until technology finds new forms to store energy.
If he isn't..., he is an even bigger Turnip than I though...
TODAY... it is perfectly feasible in Europe to run an efficient household AND an electric car with just ~25m2 photovoltaic panels on ones roof...
By the way... you linked to a ten years old data article from the USA..., where the average Yank residential consumer uses 5 (five) times more electricity than his European brothers...
That didn't even occur to me. It would be inefficient to put the panels on the car because of the weight, like the article said. And since you need the batteries anyway there's not that much advantage.
I don't see why it warrants calling him a turnip though. It may well be feasible today to have an electric car charged by solar panels on your roof, but the fact is it's still uncommon. Seems like a reasonable prediction to me.
And 5 times as much electricity, really? I guess they all have air conditioning, they have bigger houses, maybe they don't have gas and use electricity for heating and cooking? Even so, that's a huge difference. Surely it can't be right?
1) Nope..., . It wouldn't be inefficient to put the panels on the car because of the weight, as my linked video shows...
The polycarbonate solar panels on it are already lighter than the steel panels they are replacing...
Eventualy..., photovoltaic absorbers integrated on the whole surface of a car (glass included) make a lot of sense..., but technology ain't there yet... and neither will it be in 2030...
2) It warrants calling him a Turnip 'cause he made it into Ze Turnip List and he faithfully contributes daily to remain there...
3) Correction...:
The average Yank residential consumer uses ~5 (five) times more electricity than his World brothers...
The average Yank residential consumer uses 2,5 (two and a half) times more electricity than his European brothers...
Twinkle Vegetable seems to be adopting the DT debating strategy - put words in peoples mouths then badmouth them for it. Obviously a bit desperate. :-))))))
Lamentable knowledge of future technology here - must be accountants who can only tell you what happened, not what is going to happen…
@TV
That's your debating strategy - get all offended that I (supposedly) called Brexiteers racist and thick, something I've never said and don't believe.
Did you mean panels on the cars or not then?
@Think
1. I didn't watch it, my phone's playing up. But replacing part of the body work with panels instead of adding them on top would solve the weight issue. Isn't there still a problem with the (lack of) area though? There's only so much sunlight per sq m, no matter how efficient your panels are.
2. No comment.
3. That sounds more plausible, although still alarming. What are they doing with it all? I just looked up the figures myself and Canada uses even more! Also I was surprised to find the UK is below the EU average, turns out Finland, Luxembourg and Sweden are using all the power.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt will still be a while before electric cars take over the roads of the Falklands........Mitsubishi PHEV anyone?
May 05th, 2018 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse +2I wouldn't be so sure Mr. Von Richthofen...
May 05th, 2018 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse -2Bollinger B1 anyone...?
http://bollingermotors.com
(Reminds me of an auld Engrish car... can't remember the name ;-)
2030 practically all new cars will be electric charged by solar.
May 05th, 2018 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1By solar in 2030..., huhhhhhhh?
May 05th, 2018 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The above Anglo Turnip must know something 'bout photovoltaics this humble off grid Patagonian doesn't...
Chuckle..., chuckle...
… .and, the cars batteries will be linked to the grid. Stick to your close relatives bones Twinkle. Tune in to BBC4 radio Any Questions next Friday, its from Dunoon!
May 06th, 2018 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0***All new cars will be electric charged by solar in 2030***..., the Anglo Turnip above keeps telling us...
May 06th, 2018 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse -1Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure...
As Brexit will be a success by 2030... (Chuckle..., chuckle)
Or the Falkland/Malvinas will be producing oil by 2030... (Rechuckle)
By the way............................What is it the above article is telling us about oil...?...:
*** Forget oil and gas...; the future of energy belongs to Lithium. ***..., that's what...
The logical question to them squatting Kelpers would be...: Do ya've any Lithium..., boys...?
And as 'England' will return the Malvinas by 2040? Except it's a rolling 25 years so as good as saying never.
May 06th, 2018 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +1And if the oil is never extracted, so what? They've managed without it all this time, and it's better for the environment that way.
PS. This says it is at least theoretically possible to power your car with home solar power.
https://greentransportation.info/energy-transportation/solar-power-home.html
Maybe not in the UK though with our famous lack of sun, and where the majority of roofs face east-west.
Good for MP for publishing a detailed story on the electric car.
May 06th, 2018 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed, just the health benefits of eradicating fossil fuel vehicles from the streets of cities would probably be sufficient incentive for governments to accelerate the transition to EV vehicles.
Harnessing the power from the sun, the wind and other renewable sources will add up to reducing carbon emissions, helping reduce harm to our planet.
Of course, nothing is free and as the story above points out, the challenge will remain the extraction of lithium in reasonable conditions -- until technology finds new forms to store energy.
Mr.DemnTree...
May 06th, 2018 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1I Think the Anglo Turnip is speaking about cars with integrated solar panels...
Like zis German baby...: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ETvNiHCoilE
If he isn't..., he is an even bigger Turnip than I though...
TODAY... it is perfectly feasible in Europe to run an efficient household AND an electric car with just ~25m2 photovoltaic panels on ones roof...
By the way... you linked to a ten years old data article from the USA..., where the average Yank residential consumer uses 5 (five) times more electricity than his European brothers...
That didn't even occur to me. It would be inefficient to put the panels on the car because of the weight, like the article said. And since you need the batteries anyway there's not that much advantage.
May 06th, 2018 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't see why it warrants calling him a turnip though. It may well be feasible today to have an electric car charged by solar panels on your roof, but the fact is it's still uncommon. Seems like a reasonable prediction to me.
And 5 times as much electricity, really? I guess they all have air conditioning, they have bigger houses, maybe they don't have gas and use electricity for heating and cooking? Even so, that's a huge difference. Surely it can't be right?
Mr. DemonTree...
May 06th, 2018 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -41) Nope..., . It wouldn't be inefficient to put the panels on the car because of the weight, as my linked video shows...
The polycarbonate solar panels on it are already lighter than the steel panels they are replacing...
Eventualy..., photovoltaic absorbers integrated on the whole surface of a car (glass included) make a lot of sense..., but technology ain't there yet... and neither will it be in 2030...
2) It warrants calling him a Turnip 'cause he made it into Ze Turnip List and he faithfully contributes daily to remain there...
3) Correction...:
The average Yank residential consumer uses ~5 (five) times more electricity than his World brothers...
The average Yank residential consumer uses 2,5 (two and a half) times more electricity than his European brothers...
Twinkle Vegetable seems to be adopting the DT debating strategy - put words in peoples mouths then badmouth them for it. Obviously a bit desperate. :-))))))
May 06th, 2018 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Lamentable knowledge of future technology here - must be accountants who can only tell you what happened, not what is going to happen…
@TV
May 06th, 2018 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -1That's your debating strategy - get all offended that I (supposedly) called Brexiteers racist and thick, something I've never said and don't believe.
Did you mean panels on the cars or not then?
@Think
1. I didn't watch it, my phone's playing up. But replacing part of the body work with panels instead of adding them on top would solve the weight issue. Isn't there still a problem with the (lack of) area though? There's only so much sunlight per sq m, no matter how efficient your panels are.
2. No comment.
3. That sounds more plausible, although still alarming. What are they doing with it all? I just looked up the figures myself and Canada uses even more! Also I was surprised to find the UK is below the EU average, turns out Finland, Luxembourg and Sweden are using all the power.
Yes of course, with a giant magnifying glass on the cars roof to concentrate the solar energy on the panels - doh!
May 07th, 2018 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse +2I did do solar gains tests on the electronics racks on DN181 which was instrumental in downing Argie jets in 1982. That was in 1968.
The Twinkle Vegetable is obviously more at home with the pages of the Beano with some Lithium in his Mate.
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