Gauchos in Malvinas is the title of the book launched at the recent Buenos Aires Book show which is mainly a collection of water colors by William Dale, painted in 1852 when he spent time in the Falkland Islands. He was the son of John Pownall Dale, at the time General Manager of the Falkland Islands Company, and his paintings are considered a unique and only testimony of the gauchos in the Falklands. Read full article
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Lieut. Smith's appointment as Resident at the Falklands was unconnected to the Rivero murders. Came as a nice surprise to him :-)May 17th, 2018 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse +3
“Argentines have converted Gaucho Rivero in a kind of Robin Hood, but the fact is that he was ruthless, despicable character”.May 17th, 2018 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
This should surprise no one. The country has enjoyed and continues to enjoy a substantial surplus of ruthless and despicable characters.
Some time ago the Kirchner government stole the artwork belonging to one of its citizens, converting it into an image which purported to portray the despicable Rivero, to use on its new 50 peso currency. I don't think the photographer-artist ever received compensation from the more contemporary despicable thieves, those of the Kirchner government, who appropriated the intellectual property. Some of the story is here, in the vernacular:
From that news note came the summary for the character of Argentina:
...y lo incorrecto es incorrecto aunque lo hagan todos. (what is wrong is wrong even though everyone does it)
Fancy the UK government producing paper money with the likeness of murderers Amelia Dyer or Harold Shipman.
Is it just my computer or has the top comments section disappeared?May 18th, 2018 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
How can I see at a glance what the most popular commented articles are...?
So now I have to scroll through all the articles to see new comments...
Or is it just my computer...
Nope, it's gone for me too. Quite annoying and it hasn't even been replaced with anything, there's just a blank space on the page.May 18th, 2018 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
the cattle allegedly left behind by the Spaniards when they abandoned the region in 1811May 18th, 2018 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse +1
But importantly, introduced by the French.
The legend artificially created by Argentine fascism (I mean by Peronism) transformed a criminal into a hero. Typical attitude of the fascists who need to modify history so that the present, daughter of history, shows them that their positions are always correct.May 18th, 2018 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
Anyway, the really interesting issue in this history is the return, the referral, of Gaucho Rivero to Montevideo by a British judge.
What is interesting about it, Pgerman? Uruguay was already independent by then, right, so why did they send him there?May 18th, 2018 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
Referral pgerman? What, referral? As far as I can tell, Rivero never appeared before a British Judge as the decision to drop the prosecution was taken before the case came up. He, and the remaining villains, seem to have been transferred from the prison hulk at Spithead to the Admiralty Court prison, but that's as close as they came.May 18th, 2018 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The problem was that, by that time, one witness had failed to show; the other independent witnesses could only give evidence against those accused that had died en-route, which left the King's Evidence - the turncoat. Back then the accused did not give evidence on their own behalf so it all came down to the man attempting to save his life by testifying against the others. Now, while that was technically acceptable in British law, there was a general resistance to using such evidence where it was unsupported by others. There was also only one punishment and it didn't include jail time. There was a case, it could be prosecuted but the Law Officers decided that the outcome would be inequitable.
They were not sent to Montevideo. Rivero and those that wished to go were sent to Rio de Janeiro and the final decision about what to do with them was passed to the commanding Admiral there. He was not happy about it. In the end, he sent them to the Rio de la Plata and it was the ship's Captain that decided to let them off near Montevideo.
Now, unless you know something I don't (and I'd be very interested if you do), that's the whole thing.
Voice/DT - I have no idea what you are talking about. I've always had to scroll through the lot. It's why I just give up on some threads sometimes.
England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.May 20th, 2018 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse -1
@RLMay 20th, 2018 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
What the heck browser are you using? There used to be a section with the top 5 most commented stories, which allowed you to find the ones people were talking on and also easily see if they had been updated. But a few days ago it disappeared. I hope MP isn't going to remove comments entirely like on the Spanish version.
RE Rivero, Wikipedia says:
The gang was sent for trial in London, but under the British Legal system could not be tried because the Crown Court did not have jurisdiction over the Falkland Islands at the time of the alleged offences. In the British colonial system, colonies had their own, distinct governments, finances, and judicial systems. Rivero was not tried and sentenced because the British local government and local judiciary had not yet been installed in 1834; these were created later, by the 1841 British Letters Patent.
Do you not agree with that?
And I can't believe Argentina really put him on a bank note. That's a bit... special.
Wikipedia? Are you kidding? No, I don't agree.May 20th, 2018 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Not enough room here, but the opinion of the Law Officers is on 475 & 476 - https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/1834-1852.pdf