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Controversy in UK over a second Brexit referendum, proposed by ex PMs Tony Blair and John Major

Monday, December 17th 2018 - 08:26 UTC
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Holding another referendum on the EU would “break faith with the British people”, Theresa May will warn MPs. Former PMs John Major and Tony Blair are among those urging a new referendum if MPs cannot agree on a way forward. But the prime minister will argue that it would do “irreparable damage to the integrity our politics” and would “likely leave us no further forward”. Read full article


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  • Patrick Edgar

    The Funny part is that as always, the British feel everyone else's lives and countries, is UP TO THEIR OWN WILL PLANS AND WISHES . Zero respect for the world. Why change a perfect solid record of always pushing for whatever the h*** they want, when we have all gotten accustomed to what they want all that wealth and armament for. It ain't to repair the bl***y mess they made of Africa, the Middle East and South East Asia ... that's for sure ! And it aint to do what is right and return the land they took from others either. The nerve to be acting all tough about Gibraltar yet continue to solicit the honor of Europe, no different to the nerve of wanting to manipulate and insert itself in the Southern Cone while it continues to insult Argentina and its right to a diplomatic solution about the Malvinas, moreover installs a Military base aiming at our country pretending to share our Antarctic territory which we have won and earned with our own efforts ! Britain thinks that with a type written letter and an aiming gun it can have what it wants, but fails to realize they have taken enough and that this world belongs to all of its 7 billion people, and not just to those few who already have more than they need. SUCK IT UP BRITAIN! AND SHOW SOME GENUINE REAL GOOD WILL FOR A CHANGE, devoid of political planning !

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Blah blah more lies from Brexiters who are determined to get what they want at any cost, and afraid that the majority may no longer support their plans now we have seen some of the reality. But it's true another vote could not unite the country, whichever way it went we'd still be divided over our future direction and still in a mess.

    “our Antarctic territory which we have won and earned with our own efforts !”

    What efforts? Drawing a couple of lines on the map and sticking a flag in it? Even for Patagonia you had to fight a war and kill a bunch of people, not to mention taking smart advantage of Chile's war with Peru and Bolivia to persuade them to sign a boundary treaty.

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    Excuse me, but “our Antarctic territory” belongs rightfully to Chile.

    Really! The woeful misunderstanding of some individuals perception regarding geography and it's borders are disappointing...

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Best 3 out of 5? Annual plebiscite? More immigration? lol.

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Voice

    How would it break faith...the people should get a vote on what is now on offer...
    The crap deal of May's...
    A no deal and the poverty and disruption it offers...
    To remain and work on changing the EU from within...
    No one had any idea on the previous vote what the true reality was going to be...
    So what is the problem with a new vote...?

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Because more voting is anti-democratic and contrary to the will of the people, duh. That's why having chosen May, the Conservative party would never dream of questioning her leadership, much less voting on it, and after the general election in 2015 there was no reason to call another until 2020.

    Or in other words, people might change their minds and that is contrary to the will of the Brexiters.

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • The Voice

    Parliament asked the people to vote, we did. WE THE PEOPLE decided. Just get on with it… .

    Welcome back Patrick, we havent had a good laugh for ages, keep delivering your jokes.

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    See. It's no more undemocratic than holding an early general election or the confidence vote on May - both were opportunities to revise an earlier decision in light of events - but if we hold another vote there's a risk they might not get their way, hence all the bullshit.

    Dec 17th, 2018 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Voice

    Huh two years have gone by....more new voters and less old voters...
    I can change my mind in a day...who says it's not democratic to change your mind and have another vote...the most democratic thing to do would be to put it to the people since the Govt haven't got a clue and are hell bent on preservation over National interest...who the hell voted for dollar parity...
    Anyone want to buy a house in the US....I bought it at two dollars to the pound, I'd make a killing...

    Dec 18th, 2018 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))


    REF: But it's true another vote could not unite the country, whichever way it went we'd still be divided over our future direction and still in a mess

    The Brits have been World Famous for their policy of “Divide & Rule” but the policy seems to be failing when they themselves are neck-deep into the Brexit-Mess.

    Dec 18th, 2018 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Do you remember during the referendum, when they said the EU were just trying to scare you into voting Remain and they didn't really mean what they said? That we could stay in the single market without freedom of movement? Now we know that wasn't true.

    Do you remember after the referendum when they said the EU would be eager to do a deal? That we (somehow) held all the cards in the negotiations? Now we see the reality; the EU have stuck to their red lines and given away nothing, while our government has repeatedly backed down.

    Will you wait until hard Brexit is a reality before admitting the last truth, that it will be very damaging to the country and much worse for us than for the EU?

    @ :o))
    Yes. I think we were given undeserved credit though: people are only too keen to divide themselves...

    Dec 18th, 2018 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • golfcronie

    Tell the EU if they want the £ 39 billion they will have to give some ground or they can f**k off

    Dec 18th, 2018 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    They know, Golfcronie. They say we must give ground on the Irish border or WE can fuck off - they are prepared for a hard Brexit, our useless government only just started stockpiling food and medicine.

    Dec 18th, 2018 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    I read one comment on another news site that perhaps the UK should adopt a radical approach to Brexit, by deciding to not leave the EU and instead adopt a strategy of destroying the instution from inside. As being a “rogue member” it could create an alternative block (joining Poland, Austria, Italy, etc... to create anarchy for Germany and France to the point that the entire EU would be upturned. (Sort of mindless acts of civil disobedience like the yellow vests are doing right now)

    Would it be disastrous? Absolutely and I would never personally endorse the idea, but it does shows that some people want revenge against the Eurocrats that have put the UK into a corner.

    No matter what is finally decided, the final result will not end well.

    Dec 18th, 2018 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “the final result will not end well”

    Correct, and exactly why I opposed it from the start. No matter what happens now the UK has already suffered serious damage, and just as the credit crisis in the US triggered a UK recession in 2007, we will not avoid the pain if the EU stumbles in future.

    Dec 18th, 2018 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    Well at least you'll always have the French supporting you as a loyal friend:

    Dec 19th, 2018 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    DT, where is the land of your origin? You're still not ashamed of it? Why are caught up in Brexit?

    Dec 21st, 2018 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice


    Where do you think his land of origin is?
    ...and I'd like you to write a short essay on why you think it matters...
    No more than 2000 characters please...
    I will judge it on content, merit, punctuation and grammar...
    I'm sure you will do splendidly...
    Looking forward to it...
    I'll thank you in advance...

    Dec 21st, 2018 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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