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Falklands' sovereignty “not up for debate”, says PM May who praised changing relationship with Argentina
While the relationship between the UK and Argentina is changing, the UK commitment to the people and sovereignty of the Falklands is unchanging, assured Prime Minister Theresa May in her Christmas speech to the Falklands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFortunately, we now see a pragmatic Argentine government, embracing bilateral positive cooperation with the UK and the FIG has certainly been very good.
Dec 21st, 2018 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1It's hard for politicians to be honest I realize. But more truthful than “As long as you desire the right to be part of the United Kingdom family, we will defend that right – and a valued part of our family is what you will remain”, she should have said;
Dec 21st, 2018 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -6“As long as you continue to enjoy the free and easy ride of being maintained as a fake free destined people in helping us use you as a political human shield through the best sounding excuse purporting of independant democratic human rights, while in reality creating a false overseas country image that serves to keep us from having to face Argentina about the 137 year old denouncement of the usurpation of Puerto Soledad, while we continue sucking the life blood of the planet to maintain our exorbitant wealth back in London; a valued part of our geopolitical logistic family of hoarding liars deceitfuly working to push all non subded congenials off the world's board game, and an accessory to our glutonous apetite through political financial rape of the world is what you will remain”
Patrick
Dec 21st, 2018 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Thanks for your thoughtful and deeply meaningful insights into issues that most of us fail to fully comprehend. Do you think that justice will ever finally be realized by the international community and force them to demand that the transitory population be eventually be re-located back to where they originally invaded from?
Following that thread of logic, would you also agree that that the invaders (Spanish/Italian/Welsh/etc...) of the native inhabitant homelands on the continent also be sent back to Europe where they came from? Seems perfectly fair and just.
Welcome back Patrick. Your posts provide lots of hilarity and amusement here in the UK. Its so nice to be assured that RG knuckle draggers are still thriving.
Dec 21st, 2018 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Merry Christmas and a Peaceful and Prosperous New Year!
Chicureo, first you need to understand I have never been locked into the bi-polar hysteria the rest of you are blindsided and narrow-mindlessly enclosed in, regarding the matter of this dispute between Argentina and Britain. I was practically the first one on facebook on the Argentine side to confront many of the Argentinians on the issue of the Islanders needing to be regarded as equals in their own right to the home they have always lived on. I'm not asking to see the Islands become Argentinian end of story. I'm merely asking for the fair slice of justice and respect Argentina deserves and is entitled to regarding the events of 1833. I believe the Islanders themselves should seek this, as all that it entails is that Britain recognizes its abuse of power and the injustice committed against the Argentine settlement of Puerto Soledad, made evident the moment it was fake proposing friendship with the other hand to Buenos Aires, who they knew felt were entitled to the old Spanish claim; to then from that point on find a road that will lead to rectification through all things considered, whatever form that takes in the future. This being opposite to establishing a one sided justice and sole outcome insultingly through the use of military power devoid of dialogue over another country. That's all I'm saying, that's all I have ever said. All nations must be regarded as equally deserving of respect in this world. If Argentina has been protesting this since the day in occurred, it simply deserves to be faced and talked to about it by Britain, as Britain is responsible and accountable for the Islander's peace. It already failed once by creating an all out war on the Islanders home, as that was much more favorable then to London's interests as a course of action. The evacuation of the Junta's army could have easily been achieved if that is what they had first aimed at. But London did not want peace. It need a war, and the Madrid accord of 1990 makes that obvious. In a nut shel
Dec 21st, 2018 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Patrick,
Dec 21st, 2018 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Ok, let's assume that the UK reimburse the Argentinians for all the damages incurred by the citizens of Puerto Soledad and the Argentines reimburse the Falklands for the damages of their failed invasion. Everyone can send some very nice “I'm sorry....notes” and both countries could forgive past the unfortunate violence.
I'm curious how the “Madrid Accord” fits into this conflict. Could you explain?
Sorry, I got “cut off” by the letters limit.
Dec 21st, 2018 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -4...But London did not want peace. It need a war, and the Madrid accord of 1990 makes that obvious. In a nut shell, what Britain is doing is hiding its own motives and immorality behind the cry of Argentina being “the bad guy”, and of course its first believer, had to be the Islander. ~
The Madrid capitulation agreement is referred to by Argentinians as Argentina's Versailles accord. Look it up, there's a lot of material about it on the Internet. ... Obviously London already had ideas as to what to do with their planned victory. Britain has wanted to dominate Argentina since before its two failed invasions at the start of the 1800's. Then the invasion of the Parana River along side France to access Paraguay and also ultimately war over Paraguay, pinning brother nations against each other. ... All British greedy plans drawn against our region, of which either its relationship to Chile, or the immoral distortions, slanderous campaigns and character assassination crusade against Argentina, undermining its political stability, or its economy and over the Malvinas are no less part of it. Britain's tactic is weaken to sink and later offer the raft of its economic “collaboration”.
You have no way of understanding what I'm talking about, or any ability to relate to it simply because you too have been raised and schooled to see countries in Latin America, Africa and the Middle East objectified and “things” that can easily be discussed and judged like you would critique a Hollywood movie. You have no heart for other nations, because your mind set has been raised by the western power superfluously arrogant perspective of easy over the counter descriptions and prescriptions that satisfy your ego by sounding oh so smart and better always. So you could never understand things like the fact that Britain as a government lies and strategizeses to cheat and rob like the best of them, or any other country in the world might.
Patrick
Dec 21st, 2018 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +4I'm confused why you describe me of not having an understanding due to my upbringing. You do realize I'm a Latin American?
Honestly, if I didn't know better, I'd bet good money you were French. (You certainly act like one.) Typically the French seem to blame everything on everyone else, sort of like what the Argentines do all the time.
Oh! Thats a peach Patrick, please dont stop, you are better than TV, better than Fawlty Towers or Billy Connelly.
Dec 21st, 2018 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Bahahahahahaha you think your understand Britain and the British and you reveal you havent a clue…
Mostly no one here spends a second a month thinking about RGland, its a non event.
Are the asylum doors open in Argentina? An insecure window perhaps?
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse +4People on LSD often become very emotional, more prone to tears or laughter. Large doses of it may make them feel especially contemplative. They feel that their mind has burst through its normal boundaries, and they often claim to have had experiences that are spiritual or religious, with a new understanding of how their world and surroundings work.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse +4People tripping on LSD may have very questionable reasoning skills, becoming impulsive or irrational. They aren't always easy to understand, but when they do talk, they speak quickly and jump from subject to subject. Even if LSD users don't have a bad trip, heavy use of LSD can still cause serious mental and physical health issues.
You can laugh all you want, but the fact is that there was no real reason for Britain to bring war to the islands, and on the other hand all the reasons to regard it as an age old territorial dispute with Argentina in which the Islanders found themselves in the middle of. But Britain saw it could use the invasion the Junta had been bluffing and suggesting indirectly about for some months, and have them believe they were distracted about it, in order to use a real war to scare the Islanders into loyalty. Since if all they wanted was to get the Junta to let go of the islands, and if they truly regarded them as British territory, they could have easy done any number of things to have them leave the islands for fear of reprisals on the mainland, just to name one possible scenario. But Britain gained a great deal, by bringing all out war on the Islander's turf. Additionally strategically by not attacking Argentina directly it maintained its people's forgiveness and hatred of the Junta so that the likelyhood to continue creating instruments to dominate and manipulate their country politically and economically remained the future possible plan, as the Madrid accords make painfully obvious. Of course these are large scale subtleties that fly right over the heads of the Islanders, no matter how much it does characterize Britain's history in war strategy. Bringing all out war on the islands themselves was so useful in so many constructive and destructive ways, harming Argentina for years to come while incentivizing the islanders to care to do something for themselves, that it is really hard to not conclude there was a secret operative responsible for convincing the Generals it was safe to take the islands by force.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -5There was no reason for Argentina to being war to the Islands by invading....end of. What Britain did in restitution was a direct result of the actions of people who think like you Edgar, brainwashed to believe you have rights over other peoples land and homes.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +5That's simply a lie. Argentina took back and re-occupied territory that was originally grabbed out of its hands by armed force, giving way to the territorial fight over the islands in 1833. After the British garrison was sent back home in 1982, there was no fighting or resistance by the Islanders. They knew very well about the 150 year old dispute and continued carrying on with their lives. Regardless of how rudely the Junta went about it, or how unwelcomed they might have been by the British islanders, the fact is that war, bombings, and death in the trenches did not happen until the British landed. Was it confusing why the Argentine took back the islands? Not in the least bit to anyone. The dispute was a well known fact and officially recognized by the United Nations, who asked Argentine to withdraw in order to not escalate the situation any more. It never gave Britain the go ahead to bomb the islands. Moreover it has been asking both countries ever since to find “a peaceful resolution to the conflict” . The only indoctrination going on, is the bullshit narrative you people keep repeating to as always, not have to face your own monstrous raping of the planet and the insult to the sovereign nations of the world your country's very existence still to this day continues to be.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Patrick
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +3You still haven't answered whether you're a typical paranoid Argentine or just a common French egomaniac. I really can't tell you much about 1833 and who was the real victim, but I vividly rememember when my “brotherly” kleptomaniac Argentine neighbors attempted to invade my country, but cowardly changed their minds when it became apparent that we were going to put up a fight to the death.
That it seems when they changed plans to attack without warning or cause a peaceful small population of islanders instead. Anyone defending the Argentines are absolutely without question, disturbingly mentally challenged.
In any case, because of the season, ¡Feliz Navidad y próspero año nuevo!
Seguí engañándote a vos mismo hipócrita. Que pena me dan tus tontos y estereotipicos prejuicios. Corazon chico, mente chica.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Patrick
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Me impresiona la cantidad de estúpidos que hay en Argentina. ¡El gobierno se dedica a mentir permanentemente! Argentine “Las Malvinas” is only a mythical fantasy.
You know that, no matter how mentally challenged you are.
Que pena me das. Aprendé a quererte. ... Obvio, luego de que sepas quien sos.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Más tonto que una puerta, best describes your personal analysis of the situation.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Don't cry for Argentina, it got its arse rightfully kicked in 1982. Ask any resident of the Falklands if they'd prefer to have their island affairs managed by Buenos Aires...
...or their savings and pensions being handled by the Argentine central bank...
Pat is Italian.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +5And daft.
Argentina started the war in 1982 with an invasion. The UN noted this with Resolution 502 and suggested that they leave. Argentina didn't leave and chose instead - trial by combat.
Argentina lost - only finally accepting that it had lost in 1989. Argentina lost more than its little war however. Argentina lost all hope of ever getting its grubby thieving hands on the British Falklands. It seems unlikely that the UN will ever again place Britain under pressure to negotiate something that Argentina attempted to take by force - sovereignty. Ignoring the SC carried a price.
Britain has no desire to talk about it either which is why a number of our politicians over the years have confirmed that the matter is, in effect, settled.
Argentina now just needs to get over it.
You know the saying: An Argentine is a Neapolitan, who are as pretentious as a Parisian, envies the British and bizarrely pronounces Spanish. As long as they have a weak military and you never lend them money, they're actually fairly nice people who have fantastic steaks.
Dec 22nd, 2018 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Patrick all that hate, all that bile, all that unhappiness, it has a terrible effect on your health, you could be heading for a heart attack. Our advice “Calm down Dear”! You sound just like a Scrooge.
Dec 23rd, 2018 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Its the season of goodwill, relax, be joyful. We wish you a Happy Chistmas and Peaceful New Year.
Patrick
Dec 23rd, 2018 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“Since if all they wanted was to get the Junta to let go of the islands, and if they truly regarded them as British territory, they could have easy done any number of things to have them leave the islands for fear of reprisals on the mainland, just to name one possible scenario.”
Like what? Sounds like you're suggesting they should have threatened to nuke BA or something equally crazy.
SO lets get this correct Edgar, it was GB that started WW2 because if the Germans had been left alone once they invaded the rest of Europe, they wouldn't have been any fighting. You are a pathetically deluded and ignorant human being, grow up, you act like it is unfair that aggressors are confronted.
Dec 23rd, 2018 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If Argentina had not incaded, then there would not have been a war, I just cannot fathom why you fail to understand the most simplest of concepts....
Pat, 1833 was in the 19th Century. Let's leave the issues of the 19th Century in the 19th Century. The Falkland Islands are in the hands of those who deserve them!
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