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Montevideo, December 1st 2022 - 00:55 UTC
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro and his economy minister tried to rescue their contentious pension reform bill on Wednesday, as deepening political chaos surrounding the government’s signature proposal slammed Brazilian markets. Read full article
REF: ready to resign:
Once again, I told U so:
Brazilians will have tried a former military, trigger happy and nostalgic of military dictatorships as president; US and Argentina electors will have tried the kids of rich businessmen, all of this within a context of orchestrated maneuvers with intensive use of friendly media and crooked, well-financed campaigns.
As any other plagues, this attempt at concentrating wealth and power back in a few hands will come to pass, and humanity will continue to evolve towards more civilized, caring societies.
I've often quoted the saying that: Socialism is lie a nude beach, it sounds great until you get there...”
The Socialists apparently have decided bringing this to the streets...
REF: influence wanes:
Desperate situation = Desperate Action/Reaction
Reekie, your invaluable opinion that all of this within a context of orchestrated maneuvers with intensive use of friendly media and crooked, well-financed campaign caught my attention....it kinda confused me, so could you please elaborate on friendly media, and on crooked well-financed campaign ? (I presume you are not referring to Haddad).
I believe that I must have missed something here (during last year's election)......
Ah, but before you answer - which I highly doubt you will, and will interpret as your admission you pissed out the pot - please allow me to clarify :-
1) the media was NOT friendly towards Bolsonaro, much to the contrary ; and
2) official figures on campaign spending have Haddad at R$ 37,5 million, and Bolsonaro at less than R$ 2 million...oops !
And just fyi, Haddad had to ask for contributions AFTER the election because he overshot his budget by about R$ 2,5 million....and very strange too, is the fact that the TSE fined him R$ 176,000 for hiring Google to spread fake news on Bolsonaro (not permitted, by law)..
Naughty Reenochio Pinocchio.....
You ought to really inform yourself better and engage your brain before putting your mouth in gear....
REF: 2) official figures on campaign spending have Haddad at R$ 37,5 million, and Bolsonaro at less than R$ 2 million...oops !
If these so called official figures of both the sides don't raise an eyebrow [or two]; the figures do raise a hell of stink of rats [dead ones] or of the Box Nº-2! Thanx to a little bit of help from their friends like Queiroz & Co!
As U know: One is either e Crook+Politician or a crook!
If the official figures of one side were not contested by the other, or even by those who presented the accounts, and presuming there'll always be some caixa 2 - and in this case, considering the PT has virtually unlimited (ilegal) funds collected over the 14 years in power - the numbers are proportional, 'n significant when compared.
And considering that the PT and their allies have many more Queiroz's than Bolsonaro ever had, might be a good idea to remember that the PT, in 2010 and 2014 spent R$ 1,4 billion to get Dilma elected/re-elected (according to Antonio Palocci)......well over their share in the Fundo Partidário....that should raise eyebrows....where was the COAF in 2010 and 2014 ?
True! Hence my claim: One is either e Crook+Politician or a crook! By the way; Bolsonaro MAY have fewer oranges so far but it didn't take him too long to fall in line!
Re 'Michel Temer is arrested'
What happened in El Salvador in 2018 has nothing to do with B's strategy as he took over in 2019
I think they were talking about the militaristic strategy El Salvador was following, similar to what B plans, not the deal that one mayor made.
Offer to cut down killings ? what, instead of quota of 100 deaths per day, only 20 ? and “confine” it to certain areas ?
Most of those killings are turf wars between the gangs, no? So what the government wants is a truce between the gangs; divide up the country between them and have them stay out of each other's way. And in return the police turn a blind eye to non-violent drug dealing and/or smuggling. If the gangs don't stick to it, the deal is off. As for street crime, if they weren't going after gangs, the police might have more time to deal with it.
As for Guantanamo, try them in Texas if you're worried about bleeding heart juries. Probably none of the men left in there are innocent, but I'm pretty sure there were a few innocent people imprisoned and tortured at one time - mistaken identity, or bad/malicious intelligence. The US created the problem by not treating them as either criminals, or prisoners of war, and it's much too late to try treating them decently. If they didn't hate America before, they sure do now.
what's unbelievable is that despite a restraining order issued 1 year ago, the woman reported continued aggressions, but nothing happened
Why is it unbelievable? Most police are men and don't care/don't understand. It's the same in the UK and America, stalking and threats are not taken seriously until someone is dead.
REF: stalking/threats are not taken seriously until someone is dead:
A bitter truth which with instructions alone, may not be understood by the Educated-Ignorants!
Most of those killings are turf wars between the gangs, no? So govt wants a truce between them; divide up the country 'n have them stay out of each other's way.
Really, that simple ? Besides the absurdity of it – legalizing drug trafficking - I can’t believe you actually think it could be a solution… “If the gangs don't stick to it, the deal is off” (???). You obviously still haven’t even the slightest clue as to what blood-thirsty criminals are capable of to maintain their status quo. But I suppose it’s the result of your living in a relatively, very safe country.
So you think terrorists caught in the middle east (or elsewhere) deserve a trial ? I don’t. This is simple - they should pay for their crimes in the same way their victims paid the price. Were the victims allowed a trial before being blown up or having their heads cut off ?
Re the restraining order, I agree with you - not unbelievable that it happened, as it happens every single day - but because the system allows the perpetrator to remain free after the first aggression…as you said, the complaints aren’t taken seriously until it’s too late.
@Jack Bauer / @DT
REF: the complaints aren’t taken seriously until it’s too late:
I didn't say it was a good solution. But whatever you do to change the status quo is gonna cause the bloodthirsty criminals to resist (see Fortaleza etc), and the more they stand to lose, the harder and more ruthlessly they'll fight. How is that better? Under a truce they lose little and have something to gain; you think they wouldn't understand that? Evil is not the same as stupid.
”So you think terrorists caught in the middle east (or elsewhere) deserve a trial ?”
I think SUSPECTED terrorists caught anywhere should get a trial. Why d'you want the innocent punished for someone else's crime? Without trials, that is going to happen sooner or later. A trial or lack of one is NOT part of the punishment, it's to determine if you are guilty and what the punishment should be. During a war, the standard of evidence may not be exactly the same, but that's down to practicality.
There he goes AGAIN:
- diverting attention from the pathetic economy
- making feeble attempts to somehow remain in limelight
- smoking/injecting what he shouldn't
....the more they stand to lose, the harder and more ruthlessly they'll fight. How is that better?
How is that better ? without realizing it, you are actually advocating for a 'truce'...I have told you before 'n I'll tell you again, the idea of a truce is totally impossible....unless it means the drug lords are allowed to carry-on their business as always, and the police stay the hell away from the favelas....which does not address nor inhibits the fight / shootouts between rival drug gangs...which are responsible for most deaths from stray bullets, and will always exist ;
I can understand your belief that most things can be solved through negotiation, but that implies that both sides must give....but the gangs would prefer to fight to the last man, as long as they believe they have a chance...they aren't going to negotiate anything, unless they are already defeated....and in this case, no need to negotiate....it's not a matter of the traffickers not being stupid....it's their way-of-life, short as it is, and what they are accustomed to...hanging a carrot in front of them isn't going to make the slightest difference. Get used to it.
If the Americans captured ISIS members....or members of other terrorist groups, they deserve the death penalty...without a trial. IMO. For ex., if Bin Laden (or any of the men protecting him) had been taken alive, do you think he (they) would've deserved a trial ?
What innocents are living with and fighting alongside the terrorists ? I think that the US and other countries are perfectly capable of distinguishing the terrorists, and their victims.
When captured in the middle of a battle, armed to the teeth, there is zero chance of committing a mistake, or of the presumption of innocence. IMO.
the gangs would prefer to fight to the last man, as long as they believe they have a chance...they aren't going to negotiate anything, unless they are already defeated
How do you know? Have you spoken to any gang members, do you know any ex-gang members? Did anyone ever try negotiating anything with them? Have they changed their behaviour over time, or in response to police action?
”If the Americans captured ISIS members....or members of other terrorist groups, they deserve the death penalty...without a trial. IMO. For ex., if Bin Laden (or any of the men protecting him) had been taken alive, do you think he (they) would've deserved a trial ?”
The gave the Nazis they captured trials, so why not ISIS? If the evidence of their guilt is as clear as all that, then it won't take long to convict them. But if captured in battle, that proves they were fighting, but not necessarily that they were killing innocents. Should every soldier fighting for the Nazis have been killed? Yet it's hard to say the Nazis were less evil than ISIS.
And no, I don't think the US is too good at distinguishing terrorists from the people they hide among. Look at that video from Wikileaks where a helicopter shot at a group including journalists, and then shot up a car with two children in it when the driver stopped to help the injured men.
@DemonTree / @Jack Bauer
It appears that the terrorist-attacks are less frequent or maybe less vicious [as compared to the one on 09/11].
But this may also be the quiet before the storms!
It's difficult to believe that they are finished-for-good + will NEVER be able to lash-out one way or another!
Afterall; there is no way to confirm, the Nº of Nuclear, Chemical, Bacteriological/Biological Weapons [besides the Usual/Conventional Ones] are waiting to be purchased at a price from MANY 3rd World Countries!
”Brazil’s far-right president has claimed there is “no doubt” Nazism was a leftist movement, hours after visiting a Holocaust memorial in Israel. Jair Bolsonaro’s remarks directly contradicted information on the Yad Vashem remembrance centre’s website, which explains how Germany’s Nazi movement emerged from radical right-wing groups responding to the rise of communism.
In televised comments, the Brazilian president echoed previous remarks by his country’s foreign minister, Ernesto Araujo, who had also claimed the Nazis were leftists.
Despite their name, the Nazis espoused a fascist and explicitly anti-communist ideology. They are widely accepted to have been on the far right of the political spectrum.
Who else has made the same reactionary claims? Why our very own Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
REF: Nazis were leftists
Jack Bauer Fascism, confounded with Nazism, was never an extreme right ideology, being more to the left of centre
”Yad Vashem remembrance centre’s website, which explains how Germany’s Nazi movement emerged from radical right-wing groups responding to the rise of communism.
How do I know ?
Because that's what we see every single day. Never seen a hard-core criminal stop being one through negotiation. Only prison ('n not even then) or death stops them.
Do not need to interview gang-members to know how they think - their actions speak for themselves. You put too much faith in them.
They gave the Nazis they captured trials, so why not ISIS?
Again, comparing what can't be compared. WWII was a declared War, differently to terrorism....but I can see you're trying to draw a parallel between the extermination of Jews, arbitary execution of enemy soldiers, and of terrorists killing hundreds of innocent citizens (of any faith) ; WWII ended over 70 years ago, and how society saw the war crimes back then (concentration camps, forced labour, inhumane living conditions, medical experimentation on humans etc), and current terrorism - where no one is safe, as it strikes anywhere, anytime - is different.
Regarding the German soldiers, I have my doubts that most were as fanatical as Hitler, or believed his crazy ideas...I think most just obeyed orders, afraid of punishment (death ?) by their superiors (who probably DID support Hitler's ideas).
And no, I don't think the US is too good at distinguishing terrorists from the people they hide among
I was referring to sorting them out AFTER / IF civilians were detained alongside combatants.....not in the heat of battle, or mistakes (friendly fire).
If the terrorists only acted on the battlefield, defending their cause, they'd be seen as any other soldier. How many captured in battle are in Guantanamo ? Afaik, none - yet ; and the chances that the US-backed Syrian fighterss will be able to, or want to hold onto /prosecute captured ISIS combatants is pretty slim. The problem is that these fanatics will only stop, if imprisoned.
Read abt the beginning of socialism, 'n what it inspired....authoritarian regimes, based on collectivism....on both sides of the political spectrum. Dumb ass.
REF: LEFT or RIGHT
As long as ANY party/leader can:
- Improve the Quality of Life
- Improve the Standards of Living
- LOWER the Cost of Living
: Then, SO BE IT!
The REST = Statistics/Records [or 100% GARBAGE = the FAILED intellectual-masturbation!]
Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
Dumb ass's Is the name given to right-wing Bozos when the historical truth from bona fide journalists, and no less an luminary
organisation Yad Vashem directly refutes your claim. If anyone is an expert on Nazism it is them.
Yes Gollum. IDAWI.
Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
Jack Bauer “Fascism, confounded with Nazism, was never an extreme right ideology, being more to the left of centre”
Thanks, for giving me the pleasure of showing you as you truly are. An absolute confirmed liar, come on take a bow for yet another revealing performance.
If some criminal decides to retire and get a job, its not gonna make the nightly news, is it? And which is more likely to get reported, a criminal surrendering to the police due to being outnumbered and out-gunned, or one who fights to the death? What you see on the news is exactly the worst and most dramatic cases. And no one in Brazil has tried negotiating with them anyway, or anything except prison and killing them, so how could you know if it would work?
”I can see you're trying to draw a parallel between the extermination of Jews, arbitary execution of enemy soldiers, and of terrorists killing hundreds of innocent citizens (of any faith)
Are you really claiming ISIS are worse than the Nazis? What do you think dropping bombs on London did if not kill hundreds of innocent civilians? I'd say ISIS had aspirations to be as bad, and they wanted to exterminate people of other faiths, but ISIS killed thousands and the Nazis killed millions. The other explanation is that the allies had defeated the Nazis and could afford to put them on trial, but they can't defeat the terrorists. That's why I said using torture, arbitrary imprisonment etc was a sign of weakness.
I was referring to sorting them out AFTER / IF civilians were detained alongside combatants”
I don't know about the US army, but the cases that came to light here do not inspire confidence:
As for Gitmo, this says most of the prisoners were captured by Pakistani and Afghan forces, who had their own axes to grind:
Re Gollum, I agree with him on this. The new right-wing is trying to redefine left and right purely in an attempt to dissociate themselves from the Nazis, at the same time they are creeping closer to the same views (just substitute 'Muslim' for 'Jew').
If a criminal decides to retire ‘n get a job, it’s not gonna make the nightly news, is it?
Well, how a criminal retires here…’n on what ? 'n past crimes ?
In yr highly hypothetical ex, the press has no bearing. When, for ex., criminals invade a home, take hostages, negotiation's possible, 'n when they realize there’s literally no way out except surrendering or dying, they usually surrender.
3 days ago, at 3 am, a gang of 25 very heavily armed criminals, carrying sawn-off
shotguns, assault rifles, grenades, dynamite, spare ammo, w/ bullet proof vests 'n walkie-talkies, attacked two banks (exploded one) in Guararema (small town btwn RJ/SP). Knowing there’d be an attack but not exactly where, police blocked roads 'n waited...the explosions guided the police, ‘n the criminals fought their way out but were blocked again outside the town, where an intense gun-fight took place...11 criminals dead, 14 escaped, so WHY didn't they surrender when surrounded by the police ? This was the 5th such attack in the 6 months. You really need to minimally understand the criminals' mindset.
No, am not claiming ISIS is worse, or better than the Nazi high-command ...members of the former are volunteers, very different to the ordinary German foot soldier. Both ISIS members, 'n Nazi high-command deserve(d) to be executed.
If you're going to refer to bombs on London…kill hundreds of innocent civilians?, you might as well mention Dresden, Hiroshima....up to WWII, that’s how war was conducted, 'n sparing civilians was not high-priority of either side.
A sign of weakness (IYO), but what's the alternative ?
Re Baha-Moussa, unfortunately, collateral damage...despite both sides using torture, seems only the Brits believe in political correctness ...indemnity etc, which goes to show 'war' has changed.
Re fascism : Look up What is Fascism-Live Science...Lachlan Montague, Aussie researcher, says fascism resembles marxism....fact is they have a hell of a lot in common.
Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
“What is Fascism-Live Science The author Jessie Szalay has nothing that qualifies her to write with any expertise on the subject matter.
The party that probably has the most expertise is ”Yad Vashem remembrance centre’s website, which explains how Germany’s Nazi movement emerged from radical right-wing groups responding to the rise of communism. Moreover, the definers of the meaning are the plain ordinary meaning i.e. dictionaries. As it is the tactic most commonly used by the alt right and the politically correct to obscure and confound.
Look at the proponent of this view, the most discredited reactionary on this site. Including this thread.
Jessie Szalay has nothing that qualifies her to write with any expertise on the subject matter.
And you do ?.....besides the notorious fact that you can't cope with anything that goes against your sick narrative....crawl back into your smelly cave, Gollum.
Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
“And you do Unlike you, I don't rely on my own personal opinion, but that of experts. Such an expert source is Yad Vashem remembrance centre’s website. It is them that says how Germany’s Nazi movement emerged from radical right-wing groups responding to the rise of communism.”
So thanks again for reaffirming yourself as as a revealed liar, loser.
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