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Bolsonaro again denies Amazon deforestation and says Brazilian official data “I'm convinced, is a lie”
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro on Friday accused the state body responsible for tracking deforestation levels of disclosing false data, after preliminary numbers showed a dramatic rise in July. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell ... What does HE say it is then? Does he have any numbers? Where does he get HIS information from? ... You can't have a valid base from which to accuse from is you do not present and explain how you know you are correct in that accusation.
Jul 20th, 2019 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse -1The Presidents of the West are becoming intoxicated with the reach of their administrative/financial power in their countries. They 're al loosing their minds. ... And yes of course it is Britain's fault :-) The Mad Hatter and its global hogging banking self enriching network it shares with the United States.
Trimonde
Jul 20th, 2019 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Yes of course it is Britain's fault”
May I remind you of your own criteria. “Where does he get HIS information from? ... You can't have a valid base from which to accuse from is you do not present and explain how you know you are correct in that accusation.” So accordingly, other than revealing your own anglophobia, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
REF: “I'm convinced, this also is a lie”
Jul 20th, 2019 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.ceicdata.com/en/country/brazil
@Terrance Hill, Industrial Financial Capitalism under the false banner of a single brand of fascistic democracy is dehumanizing the world and having us all careen madly into the most hellish future imaginable. It's making the masses superficially dumb and stupid led by an ever shrinking minority which holds obesely a growing amount of the world's wealth comfort and excessive luxury. I am being facetious when I say it's “the British are to blame” referring to how it was England and Holland to invent the “interest loan banking system” which has enslaved today's world in dependency, and yet, if anyone where to point their finger at how today's banking and financing capitalistic system is harming the world and leading us away from our greatest potential, I have no doubt that it will be Britain and America along with the Swiss and other Northern European countries the first ones to jump in crying outrage, since they are the ones who are most benefiting and continuing to grow from it as we speak, through this world blood sucking vascular system network of banks.
Jul 20th, 2019 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trimonde
Jul 20th, 2019 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Financing capitalistic system is harming the world and leading us away from our greatest potential.” How and what is that exactly? As there is no perfect fit politically, that resolves any and all the problems.
@T.H.
Jul 20th, 2019 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Says who? Political principals, Governmental systems, Civil administration philosophies, “the social organizers of man's world” like all of humanities inventions are a design. We design our ways of running nations and running the world. And like all designs, some are better, some fail.
Did you think we were stuck with what we have come up with so far? Criticizing government, is not about “choosing which one is better” (though that is what people who want to control others have you believe and do, choose. Choose among choices they either run themselves or they affect and influence, keeping always the “chooser” or “voter” at the reach of their decisions. Capitalist or Socialist. Left or Right. Gay or Straight. Law abiding or Criminal. Good guy or Bad guy. Abortionist not abortionist. The power lies in the argument and conditions that produce what these bi polar contrasts are about, along with everything else that consequentially results from there, and which like our choices are results, not reasons.
Trimonde
Jul 20th, 2019 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Says who” Says me as it is self-evident, if there was such a 'perfect political solution'. Then some savvy
political party would have adopted it, and would be be enjoying perpetual reelections wouldn't they?
It sounds like you didn't understand what I wrote @Terence H.
Jul 21st, 2019 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Man's inventions, by the mediocre limitations of his logical reasoning before the immense perfection of nature and our own optimal naturalness, tends to produce or develop flaws and ultimately fail, nearly every time. Nearly all of our inventions or sciences fall short of satisfying what we nonetheless will eventually catch up to and realize was a better way of doing it. Political governments are no different, in fact they are one of our best examples of man not knowing how to handle his own intelligent capacity and do right by his own self and the needs and requirements of his existence. And yet we ARE NOT limited to the versions of governing systems we have created so far. Tomorrow a new one could be conceived and designed. Our problem, as it so often does lies in allowing ourselves to replace the old, and recognize our ignorantly indifferent harming of others.
Trimonde
Jul 21st, 2019 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It sounds like you ...” I understand perfectly, it is you who makes claims and then changes your premise when shown it's faulty reasoning.
No you didn't .
Jul 21st, 2019 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Explain to me what you believe to have understood T.H.
Trimonde
Jul 21st, 2019 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Explain to me what you believe to have understood” A complete bunch of poppycock
“hogging banking” You should look at the interest rates in Brazil and Argentina.
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/Lending_interest_rate/
T.H.
Jul 21st, 2019 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does that have to do with what we're talking about ?
Trimonde
Jul 21st, 2019 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”What does that have to do with - hogging banking”
You're the one who used the term at https://en.mercopress.com/2019/07/20/bolsonaro-again-denies-amazon-deforestation-and-says-brazilian-official-data-i-m-convinced-is-a-lie/comments#comment502799
Patrick,
Jul 22nd, 2019 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which country has come closest to achieving this enlightened, better political system you are calling for? Give an example.
You too are missing my point. I'm not talking comparisons, or needing to research if Bhutan, Norway or Iceland come close to what I have not yet started developing as a political concept beyond general ideas. What I'm saying is seize the fact that we have a universe of possibilities in our freedom to create new governing systems, in light of having demonstrated so far immense mediocrity in almost all of them. The questions at hand are other ones in this conversation. They should be about establish common principals of human right. The right for everyone to have a roof to call their own over the heads for example. The right for everyone to access the best medicine has to offer in the world. The right for all children on the planet to be safe from war and hunger. The right of all citizens to make errors or be mentally troubled and seek healing, be given redemption and forgiveness without punishment. Then maybe we can as a group start talking about which “system” if any, include these principals in their government's foundation. Building on the past is not a requirement. Especially when the past has been so barbaric.
Jul 22nd, 2019 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trimonde
Jul 22nd, 2019 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You too are missing my point.” No ones missed anything, we understand your racist diatribe loud and clear.
“The Presidents of the West are becoming intoxicated with the reach of their administrative/financial power in their countries. They're all loosing their minds.”
Patrick,
Jul 22nd, 2019 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You skipped the human right about innocent children having a right to be protected from criminals and their “errors”, that need to be “forgiven”, not punished.
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